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June 30, 2003 22:10 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>

Tips on scanning, expecially stamps
Anyone new to scanning or anyone that needs some tips or correct some common misconceptions should check out Tips on Scanning by Peter Aitken This is an A+++ site on everything from selecting a scanner to using the scanner & is particularly aimed at scanning philatelic materials

David


June 30, 2003 John


By the way,the bidder in question has note paid over 5 dollars for any of the last 100+ lots and is now bidding on some higher priced stuff.


 

June 30, 2003 magnolia stamps


would some one care to explain this one away?Question! How does a single bidder rack 2851 fb's and only has a 148 rating.Could it be that this person is to many multiple lots from the same dealers,or
caan it be something else?here!Now here's something to think about besides a new overpriced scanner or 1 to many posts about soaking modern stamps.

Bob in Stl Photo shop can be picked up at Sams club for around 90 bucks and quite often it will have a 40 dollar rebate,Many programs that Sher has installed here have been virtually free,and some times the rebate was more than the program cost.BTW got any revs.you want to trade or sell?

john


 

June 30, 2003 Prometheus

Victor = Reply on soaking
Have you tried the method of just trapping the envelope,piece with the stamp in a humid container
no soaking
normally after a couple of hours the Stamp will slide right off and retain some of it's gum, if you want all gum gone you let the stamp sit in Humidity bath and then normally all glue goes too on to suface you left it on.
I use the Poaching bowl that came with my Microwave oven ,with a sponge in bottom to hold the small plate i lay my items on .works real well for me don't let them stay for longer than a day as old stamps seem to have lots of Mold / mildew spores they have sucked up over the years.


 

June 30, 2003 David Benson


Victor, which ones did you have the problems with, the only ones I can think of are the British 1883 Lilacs and Greens which were printed with a doubly fugitive ink. I presume these were washed off with the stamp carefully left floating upwards.

David Benson


 

June 30, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>

general
NOIP: Just a general question about all of those early QV British Commonwealth used stamps that fade when they are soaked (I have done it to several nice stamps to my financial detriment.) How were they originally soaked off the envelopes/covers without the same severe fading? How can they be bright colorful USED stamps, but fade to a washed out example after the 'second' soaking?


 

June 30, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Image Editing
Where do you get Photoshop for $99? I have version 4 and would not mind upgrading, but I didn't register it since I got it from a friend who got a teacher's price on it and we didn't know if that was "legal" or not. Have had it long enough that no way to find any purchase information, and still would not register it for same reason.


 

June 30, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Image Software
I'm a big fan of photoshop. But my sister's best friend works for Adobe, which lets me get any of their software for $40, so it's easy for me to be a fan... One of the nicest features of photoshop is their batch processing routines - you can "record" a series of actions and then indicate to "play" those actions on a bunch of files. I recently discovered the metadata aspect of image files, and I decided to add copyright information to all of my stamp images, just in case they show up somewhere unexpected. So I recorded one "set copyright information" series of steps, then played it back on all 4700 of my image files. It took less than an hour for PhotoShop to open the 4700 files one-by-one, add the metadata, and save them out.
 

Jim


 

June 30, 2003 Bjorn Langoren

Fancy image editing software
If you're not ready to plunk down $99 for Photoshop, or your scanner came with a watered down version (mine came with adobe photodeluxe, which is a worthless POS), you can try out WinGimp.

WinGimp has pretty much all the features of Photoshop, is abslutely free (Gnu Public Licence), and is constantly being improved by volunteer developers. To download for free, just go to www.wingimp.org.

I know there are some budget minded collectors here. I use gimp myself on both linux and win98, and no hassles so far.



 


 

June 30, 2003 15:00 Dave ("philatarium")

Photoshop
Bill: Thanks very much for sharing your procedures and experience. I really appreciate it, and, once I have things worth showing, I will.


 

June 30, 2003 COVERWIZ

Darrell
Consider it a beauty mark! From an old Dolley Madison Club member...


 

June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark


Shucks!!


 

June 30, 2003 13:17 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") I just use the default in PhotoShop as that seems good enough. I use Image:Scale and look at the width. I then enter a number double that or whatever I know I need to make all the images the same size. My default is Bicubic but I did not try others.

 

Usually I scan at the size I want. Then I scale down to 100 or 77 or 125 DPI for the mapped composite image of a set. Then the web user can click on a thumb nail in the set and bring up a page with the full size image and the forgeries. Here is an example Uruguay


 

June 30, 2003 13:08 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") Here is my fire drill. I use PhotoShop Import function to import an image from the scanner. I usually scan at 600 DPI for decent images and 400 DPI for web images. Anything less than 400 DPI (unscaled) is not enough to see detail for forgeries. 600DPI is better.

 

Then I use PhotoShop to crop the image and scale it if necessary.

 

If I am making a composite image I copy from PhotoShop and paste into Microsoft Paint (free program). Paint will then let me move the image easily to its final location. One composite image using HTML mapping loads much faster from the web and more reliably than a lot of thumb nails. I use the free HappyLad Image Mapper for mapping.

 

If I am saving in PhotoShop I same as JPEG quality 3 or 4. Then I use JPEGwizard to compress to the desired file size. JPEG wizard has a nice batch compression feature. If I need a fast load web image I use Adobe ImageReady to make a small GIF. ImageReady comes with PhotoShop. You could probably get away with a cheaper program than PhotoShop.


 

June 30, 2003 13:01 Dave ("philatarium")

Photoshop
I should add that I bit the bullet and got the upgrade to Photoshop 7, which is what is used in the classes. It also sort-of integrates ImageReady into it. I figure that once I get more comfortable with it, it should be at least as effective as IrfanView (which I have used in the past).


 

June 30, 2003 13:00 Dave ("philatarium")

sampling algorithms
Bill Claghorn: I'm just beginning to get more comfortable with Photoshop. I was doing a little bit on my own, and then discovered some classes being taught nearby that emphasis its use for photographers (as opposed to graphic designers), so my skills are improving day by day. (An interesting aspect to the discussions in class are the best ways to scan a photograph or other highly detailed image (I'm thinking "stamp" here), and really beginning to work with the color and image manipulation capabilities.)

But the question I was starting out to ask is: which resampling did you use: "bicubic", "bilinear", or "nearest neighbor"? Do you understand which would be the best to use under which circumstances? (My classes haven't gotten this far along yet...)
 


 

June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark


Bill C

Yep, the quiz image I showed yesterday for some reason came out at 50 kb. I put it through irfanview (all I have at the moment) and it was reduced to 7 kb. Doing nothing other than opening it and saving it.


 

June 30, 2003 12:41 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") I used PhotoShop to blow up the image I posted the link to doubling the size and it looked like Knud's image. Some images have the detail and are compressed well so they blow up well. PhotoShop has a good algorythm (of course) so it works well, especially for integer doubling. It all depends on the quality of compression in the first place. I use JPEGwizard for compression because it has less artifacts than photoshop. IOmoon also like IRfranView (sic).

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 30, 2003 11:45 Dave ("philatarium")

Oops

Knud-Erik: Oops. Second paragraph of my last post was directed to you...


 

June 30, 2003 11:35 Dave ("philatarium")

high-resolution images
Yea! Back on line from home (home office)! Phone company came out today (scheduled to come out on Wednesday and need access to house) while I wasn't here and without access to house and fixed the line. It's good to be connected again!

: What kind of software did you use to enlarge the image? Didn't you have to use a resampling algorithm to accomplish this? I also thought resampling algorithms didn't work very well, and should only be used as a last resort. But at first glance, the image you created looks pretty good! What did you do?


 

June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bjorn
It brings "a breath of fresh air" to stamp collecting!!


 

June 30, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

Undersea post office
How do they cancel the stamps before they soak off?


 

June 30, 2003 10:41 Bob in WA

Undersea post office
Bjorn -- They must sell a lot of bubble wrap.


 

June 30, 2003 Bjorn Langoren


Oops, my name is not Undersea Post Office. Noting wrong with that, mind you, but my name is Bjorn.


 

June 30, 2003 Undersea post office

Under water post office
This article(Sorr it's in Norwegian) reports a new unsdersea post office opened in Vanatu. Divers can get their waterproof postcards stamped with waterproof postmarks.


 

June 30, 2003 Darrell Ertzberger <mteton@aol.com>


Sigh, I suppose it was inevitable. Got first negative today. From a guy in Germany that never responded to five emails from me, both sent direclty to his email and through the ebay mail system. No reposnse for him at all. I was concerned, but I was not going to call Germany over a less than $5 lot. Well, 1 out of 532 unique feedbacks is not too bad.


 

June 30, 2003 09.27 Knud-Erik (knuden)

High resolution image
 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

Dave - What about this size then? It's Bill's picture but resized! :O)


 

K.E. 
 


 

June 30, 2003 9:12 Dave ("philatarium")

request for hi-res images
Bill Claghorn: Yours was an excellent suggestion, by looking at auction sites. For almost any purpose, the image size of the link that you posted would work very well. However, I'm not sure if the image size will be large enough for the exercise we'll be doing in class tomorrow, although it might. (But you have given me some excellent ideas for the future.)

Thus, I will still keep open my request, per my post of last night at 23:13.

Many thanks!

-- Dave


 

June 30, 2003 Bob Hohertz

INDYPEX
Howdy! Back from INDYPEX. The show seemed to be well attended, and several dealers mentioned they were having a good show. Two others (dealers?) were overheard in the washroom saying the show was dying. Take your choice.

It was the annual convention of the American Revenue Association, and it was great to get together with old friends and make some new ones. So far as revenue dealers at the show, there were no more there than at the Saint Louis show in March, if as many. The ones there had plenty of good things to buy - in fact, way too many. The ARA meeting session was also well attended. I gave a talk shortly after lunch Saturday, and put almost everyone in the room to sleep for some period of it.

My exhibit was well received, far beyond my hopes.

A good show. Long may it prosper.


 

June 30, 2003 Prometheus

Jim Watson = Reply
The letter has a few hard to read words, But from what I now understand I was right on the first part when I posted it was coming back from war.
Can not get a decent scan to post I do not wnat to Force Flat paper folded for 156 years.

Passage about troops reads" Tomorrow or next day the Second Reg. Indiana Volunteers are expected at New Albany and they say there will be very tall doings in giving them a becoming welcome.
But poor fellows there is many a Noble Spirit remains Behind.
Felled by disease,or cannon ball ,or sword. "


 

June 30, 2003 Richard Warren

Santa Clara & Mexico
Jim G - Thanks, Jim. That's very helpful. Appreciated.

Prometheus - Your sender could have been one of these: http://company.military-historians.org/plates/images/US.htm#mexican
Scroll down to plate 357 and click on the number for a pop-up picture.


 

June 30, 2003 7:44 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Italy 1889 5L used
Hi, I wonder if anyone can give me any comments as to whether the cancellation on the stamp in the scan below is genuine.

Thanks in advance.
Mark.

Italy 1889 5L


 

June 30, 2003 07:30 Jim Watson


Prometheus,
Here are 5000 soldiers to look through! :-)


 

June 30, 2003 07:22 Jim Watson


 

Prometheus,
Interesting historical item. I note that Jim's listing of the 2nd regiment shows a great mustering out in New Orleans on June 23, 1847. Could one get from New Orleans to New Albany, Indiana, in 7 days in 1847? Perhaps it was from another unit.


 

June 30, 2003 Prometheus

IO =Reply
Haven't found sender= G.K.Erwin of Newalbany Ind, or the receiver = Joesph Cox of Bloomington
I'll keep looking though


 

June 30, 2003 Prometheus

Brian McI = Faked Seal tied on Postcard
Do you see many MADE UP Xmas seal covers/cards
I have one dealer I buy from that after i told him what I liked
He found THISONE

and then while I my say OKay the pencil Cancel is a maybe
I know ( at least I think I do) that this Stamp wasn't cancelled on it he just didn't understand the term Tied he just thought the seal and stamp needed to touch can't wait for his next Find.


 

June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


prometheus
Your sender was probably one of these


 

June 30, 2003 Prometheus

Correction = they were heading to War
Sorry they were not coming back they were all getting ready to Go to Mexico.


 

June 30, 2003 0549 Prometheus

Day late Today Mail
Got busy and missed it
Here is a nice Stampless 1847 Letter

Where would the Second Regimant Indiania Volunteers have been coming from in the Summer of 1847 ?


 

June 30, 2003 05:31 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a postal card from Portuguese India to Bombay in 1889.

Knud-Erik,
Thanks for the comment on the cirled 22. I'll wait and see if anyone else can make it certain for Belgium.


 

June 30, 2003 04:34 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

request for hi-res images
Dave ('philatarium') A quick searech for France C15 turns up http://www.apfelbauminc.com/images4/41120a.jpg THIS . Hope that helps.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 30, 2003 23:13 Dave ('philatarium') <dfrick@pacificanalytics.com>

request for hi-res images
Hi -- Sorry I haven't been around much this weekend, as I had thought I would. My phone lines goes out intermittently, and so I can't check on very much. (Phone company can't come out till Wednesday. Grrr...)

But, I have a request. As I mentioned before, I'm taking a couple of Photoshop classes right now, and, for one class, I have some stamps in mind that I would like to use for a project. The only problem is, I don't own the stamps.

I am, in particular, looking for:

-- that amazing early French airmail with the wonderful engraving (although many would qualify as that). I believe it's Scott C15, and I'm afraid I don't have my Scotts handy to know the year. However, here is an image of it I cropped off of Mitchell's website:

http://www.pacificanalytics.com/stampchat/images/france_c15.jpg

The other one(s) I'm particularly interested in are the first Greek airmails, from 1926, Scott C1 - C4. Here's an image I borrowed from elsewhere:

http://www.pacificanalytics.com/stampchat/images/Greece_c1c4.jpg

For the Greek set, I would be interested in any one or all four images, scanned separately.

If any of you has any of these stamps, here's what I need:

-- stamp should be a nice copy, fresh-looking, unused (i.e., no cancel), hopefully well-centered. (Happily, gum doesn't matter for once!)

-- scan at 300 dpi or somewhat higher (although the prior discussion about 2400 dpi would probably cause the lights to dim here!)

-- either .jpg, but uncompressed, or .psd (Photoshop format)

I would expect the file size to be big, say 300 - 600k.

You could either email it to me at my email address above, or else upload to the web, from which I could download it.

And as if I wasn't asking for the world already, I really need to get this image tomorrow (Monday), say by 11:00pm (23:00) Pacific time.

Can anybody help out with this?

Many, many thanks in advance,

-- Dave


 

June 29, 2003 20:46 Lavar Taylor


Good evening/day to all. Today's featured item of postal history focuses on mail from the US to Germany during WWI. This is a 2c postal envelope, uprated with a 3c Washington stamp to pay the 5c UPU rate to Germany. The cancel on the stamp reads San Francisco, Jan. 30, 1917, less than 3 months before the US entered WWI against Germany. But the letter did not originate in San Francisco. The return address is H. Hackfeld & Co., PO Box 248, Honolulu. There is a circular marking in light blue which reads "Matson Nav. Co. S.S. Wilhelmina, Jan. 24, 1917. Thus the card appears to have been placed aboard the SS Wilhelmina in Hawaii. The cover was addressed to Dresden, Germany, but it never made it there. On the reverse there is a Washington DC postmark dated June 27, 1917. I believe that the cover was held there, where it was opened by the PO.

The PO then marked the cover "Mail service suspended to country addressed" and added the "return to writer" pointing finger. The PO also added the "officially sealed" labels at the top (which are still intact as the letter was opened on the side). The opening of the letter appears to be an unofficial form of censoring. While looking at the contents the PO wrote in blue crayon on the front "Schofield Barracks Oahu." Schofield Barracks is where a number of German sailors were kept after their ships, which had docked in Honolulu at the outset of WWI (then a neutral port), were seized by the US. The contents of this cover very likely were written by a German sailor held at Schofield Barracks to his wife or mother in Germany. Most mail to Germany from the US was returned as undeliverable starting in early January, 1917. I will be showing other mail going from the US to Germany during WWI in the near future.


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


Richard, I looked for them yesterday, but they weren't in their assigned place - someone selling supplies was spanning their booth and two others. But I went back today and I happened to see them there in a different booth. There was one balding gentleman there, and he had one customer. I wouldn't recognize an illegal if I saw it, so I have no idea what they were offering.
 

Jim


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Brian

In most cases they are data programs where, in effect, what you are paying for is the time and effort that someone has put into collating material pertaining to a specific topic.

It can be, as in my case, a catalog, where I have incorporated my modest knowledge of volcanology with a topical theme.

In other cases it may be a program written by a person with an extensive computer knowledge who has applied that knowledge to enable you to manipulate images of your stamps or to compose album pages based on the information that you input.

There are numerous other permutations.


 

June 29, 2003 Brian R

stamp software
noipI keep seeing more and more auctions for software that will "manage" your stamp collection. Does anyone use this stuff? What's the gain? I organize my collection, in a revolutionary new product, known as an album.

Am I just a young guy with old fashioned tendencies? What am I missing out on?


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dang Brian,

That was too quick!!
Though "commemorative" is the correct spelling :-Þ

The prize is self-esteem!


 

June 29, 2003 2:39 pm Steve Taylor (aka philcomp) http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
 

A Curiosity
I received the cover (an envelope) this past week. The 2 cent Franklin is a cut corner of a postal card indica PERFORATED YET! And the perforations look pretty good.

The sender is a stamp dealer. The frightening thing is 'What else might he be doing with the perforator?'


 

June 29, 2003 Brian R

stamp quiz
Jim It's the 1965 US commemerative "Settlement of Florida", SC #1271. What's my prize? :o)


 

June 29, 2003 Prometheus

Philcomp = your corner cut
I don't have any that new with the 37 cent rate but have some older ones where the postage was cut off postcards and applied to tourist type postcards, and a couple on covers.
From the fifties and I have seen a few of those at the postcard shows.
I just wish I knew how they made the perfs.


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Quiz time.

Name this stamp.
Scott # does not count!

Clue: Claire was there! At least, down the road.


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark


Overpriced for a postcard which is only 21¢????


 

June 29, 2003 1:59 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp) http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
 

A Curiosity
What is wrong with this picture?


 

June 29, 2003 sveiki!

Delcampe website
knuden Way to go! {:o) Just went through the list of offerings you have listed at the Delcampe site. Then began to calculate eBay losses on your 30 days non-grata period at eBay. Made me quite happy, even though eBay doesn't give a hoot. I hope eBay and it's shareholders will get some heavier losses, they deserve a reminder of real life.


 

June 29, 2003 11.43 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Choo - Choo!! (revised)
Ratts!
Anyone collecting locomotive on stamps? - Look here: - at these beutyfull engraved Belgium Railway stamps from my year of birth - 1949 :O)They are not mine - found them at the net. :O)

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark


knud-Erik
your link
Futfut????
Pretty stamps!


 

June 29, 2003 11.38 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Choo - Choo!!
Anyone collecting locomotive on stamps? - Look here: - at these beutyfull engraved Belgium Railway stamps from my year of birth - 1949 :O)They are not mine - found them at the net. :O)

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Nick

Correct!!
Zaire would also have worked.


 

June 29, 2003 Prometheus

Bjorn = Charles = Thanks
Thanks for the info on those Hitler coil stamps , Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and pay a lot more than I wanted too for the boxes of material.
The seller felt they were worth 400 US just the coil
To get the stuff I have to own from those boxes guess I'll also own an unopened coil of 8pf Stamps.
 


 

June 29, 2003 Dave P

Biafra
Can anyone tell me if the set of four Butterflies issued by Biafra in 1968 are listed in Scott (or any other cat.), and if so a recent cat value? They used to be listed by Gibbons under Nos. 27 - 30 but are now relegated to a foot-note.


 

June 29, 2003 Alec McGrattan

useful link for non German French etc speakers
I hope the members here will find this link useful.
http://www.philaguide.com/philawords/index.htm

Very easy to use and it can be of some help especially if searching through European auctions. Any comments are welcome.


 

June 29, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

cut squares
Was it a popular collecting style back in the 40'/50's to cut envelopes and postcards down so that the stamp and cancel were collected together? I've seen this in collections before and today I bought a large collection (about 80 notebooks) of them, all placed on notebook paper with old photo mounting corners. There isn't much of interest in them as far as stamps go, but would there be any cancel interest today, even though they are no longer full cards or envelopes? The notebooks are arranged by state that the cancels are from.


 

June 29, 2003 Charles L. Williams <cwilliam@joplin.com>

Hitler Coil
Prometheus... MICHEL lists strips of 11 at DM 20. Theoretically then, an unopened coil would have a catalog value of approximately DM 900- or about $ 450. Routinely, the whole is not worth more than the sum on these things. I would think $ 100 would be a worthy offer.


 

June 29, 2003 Nick <kathmoon@aol.com>

Crossword Answer ??
Jim: Patrice (Lumumba) = CONGO


 

June 29, 2003 09:52 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Hitler head coil
Michel Spezial doesn't list complete coils, the closest they have is "Elferstreifen" (strips of 11). A strip of the 8pf is priced at 10DM in Michel '96 ($4.50), but I don't think you can multiply that by 45, it's probably far less. I'm no expert though...

 


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


If so,
todays crossword clue.

Patrice was its leader (5) (either way!)


 

June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Are all eBay chatboards dead?


 

June 29, 2003 Prometheus

Help = Hitler Head Coil of 500 unopened
Hello all
Can anyone tell me if an unopened Coil of 8pf red ( Scotts 511 i think) has any value the coil is 500 stamps and has a band sealing the outside and some initials and a date in pen.
This has been offered up to me in an estate lot i might buy and the seller thinks they have Great Value Do They.
Thanks if you can help.
I want the other items but must buy all 5 boxes of stuff and these satmps are the sticky point.


 

June 29, 2003 08.14 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Delcampe
Guillaume - Thank you for your offer to help me. :O)
I find Delcampe a very good alternative to PoohBay and, as you said, they are more friendly than many other sites. They even have a feature which allow you to automately restart an unsold auction for up to 999 times and you pay only for what you sell (0.01 to 249.99 Euros/month : 4.0 %)!! They have a good forum and there is articles too.
I hope really that this auction site will be THE stamp auction site instead of PoohBay!

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 29, 2003 Richard Warren

ASADA Santa Clara
Jim Griffith _ sorry to hassle, Jim. Just wondered if you'd noticed Stampdile selling at the show?


 

June 29, 2003 Guillaume


One more thing about Delcampe: When you do a search for "all items from a particular seller" you get a nice list with the different categories. No need to wade your way through two million listings, you can go immediately to the area you collect!


 

June 29, 2003 Guillaume


Knud-Erik Nice to see you are already getting bids on Delcampe.
A few pointers: List the items close to the price you want to obtain, there is less trafic than on eBay and starting items at one buck might hurt you (and for the moment you seem to have very little competition). Be patient, Delcampe is much more relaxed and friendly than eBay (you can even email Seb Delcampe himself and get an answer!). Belgians are very particular about shipping charges, always be fair. There are a lot of French people on Delcampe, which is nice, but take extra care when sending lots to France. The postal system there is not always too reliable (I have lost very few items in the mail so far, those that I lost disappeared mainly en route to France). If you need any help, just ask me. Your decision to stay is very good, Delcampe is growing rapidly. They will be charging some fees as of July, though. But I believe that is normal, they have to pay to keep the site running. Good luck!


 

June 29, 2003 06:38 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

EUSC Site Maintenance
Laura The EUSC site is maintained by President Roger and graciously hosted by BillSey. When they come on line they can fulfill your request.


 

June 29, 2003 06.26 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Re: Today's dated postal history item
Jimbo - Hi Jim. Nice card - it reminds me of Mombassa, Kenya where I stayed for a year way back.
The "22" in a circle could it be the Belgium mailman's cancel, like they have in Netherland?

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 29, 2003 05:42 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a picture postcard from Portuguese Congo to Belgium in 1910.


 

June 29, 2003 LaurelA (laura598)

Ebay Stamp Club: Not sure who to contact
I want to have my email address removed from the Ebay Stamp club members list, as it comes up on a 2 second Google search, of my name. I am having some security problems and would appreciate the removal of it. I tried to contact the webmaster on that page, the email was returned to me as undeliverable. Thanks in advance, Laura


 

June 29, 2003 David Benson


Knud, glad that Delcampe is OK for you. They have some advantages over Ebay especially for European material.

Mauro, I cannot ID the Transvaal as the paper could be either thin or coarse which is impossible with a scan. there are so many variants as well as forgeries and reprints but the easiest test is the raid D in EENDRAGT which appears to be OK.

Bjorn, it was 21 here too which is not bad seeing that it is mid winter.

David Benson

 


 

June 29, 2003 03:35 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Ebay Suspension
Knuden: I guess esnipe is just confused about the error message it gets from eBay. Just like PayPal claims my credit card has been "denied by the credit card issuer" when in fact they just have problems connecting to their server. Got me scared the first time. I wouldn't worry.

Now that you're suspended from eBay, who not just take a month off? I guess July isn't the most profitable month to sell anyway, since potential bidders may be on vacation.

22C at noon - this is gonna be a hot day!

 


 

June 29, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Australia watermarks
David & Marius: Thank you both for your help, the early Australian watermarks look all the same for me!

Regards

Mauro


 

June 29, 2003 01.09 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY.
 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

Thank you for all the kind words which have been written about my suspendion. 

Yesterday I got a mail from Esnipe (I had forgot I had a bid waiting there.) which got me puzzled. This is part of the mail: "The Results of your bid: eBay says resolve complaints - eSnipe was able to snipe the bid in the time specified. However, eBay will not allow you to bid, they say you need to resolve complaints sellers have made against you." My question is: Which complaints and for what?? I  haven't heard a word from Ebay about these complaints but "only" that I voilated their rules listening "verboten" material. Does sellers now turn others in? If so - I will ask those sellers to come out in the open and not cowardly hide behind the skirts of Ebay.

I have now moveed all my auctions to Delcampe.com and I might, if it goes well, stay there or use the site some more. 

Would someone be so kind to sent my greetings at the Ebay chat board? :O) 
 

K.E. 
 


 

June 29, 2003 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>

5/ Roo
Marius.. Glad you dropped in. You are, of course, correct.

David


 

June 29, 2003 John@magnolia stamps

more from the attic
Attic treasures my foot!this dealer is still trying to sell the same bogus lots from last year!All are as is and be sure to check oyt the fake phillipine overprints. what a joke


 

June 29, 2003 Marius http://www.boomspeed.com/stampmad/main_page.htm
 

5/- Roo
Mauro........I wll beg to differ with David. The watermark shown is the narrow crown which makes your roo Scott#54


 

June 29, 2003 Brian R


John I'm afraid that I have near zero knowledge, to help or appreciate, CSA currency notes. I'll bet they've held their value better that the US dollar recently!


 

June 29, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

soaking
I too have not had any problems soaking self-adhesive stamps with plain old water. I usually make it a tad bit warmer than usual though.


 

June 29, 2003 John@Magnolia


Brian

A few weeks ago I found a couple of nice souther bank notes 1 from Ala and 1 from Ga.both on local banks late 1850s and whats great is there both in good cond.also found 1 from Chatanooga tn.


 

June 29, 2003 John


Brian......Ahhhhhh your so right!!!!!


 

June 28, 2003 Brian R

winshild fluid soaking
Chris Have you tried that methanol method on any of the non-paper poly stamps? I would be fearful that might actually effect the printing.


 

June 28, 2003 Still Later Now Chris

Soaking
John, I found that I had sticky residue if I used warm water
and something the stamp disintigrated trying to get the adhesive off.
This procedure leaves the stamp clean and non-sticky.

Chris - a zillion defns to sort in a few months


 

June 28, 2003 Later Now Chris

Dinner this evening
I have Ben & Jerry's for dessert tonight.
It was a couple of mile walk to get it, but worth it.
A large scoop in a waffle cone was 4 something, but I was
paying downtown prices.

Chris - bought some nice rose incense too


 

June 28, 2003 Brian R

yipes!
JohnLOL., Your linked stamps make me ponder again, just what my cohorts are up to, in collecting such sludge. My bet, but not my comprehension, is that someone WILL bid on that.

Then again, there are guys in this world, who will pay good money, to have a dominatrix beat them.


 

June 28, 2003 John

Soaking
chris

I have no problem with soaking the new stamps off paper.Warm water works fine around here.Just let soak for 10 to 15 min an they come right off,been doing it since they came out!I wonder why everyone has so much trouble with them?As a mtter of fact I just soaked some off of my latest Sam Houston mail bid cover that came today.Darn I like getting mail..

.Anyone interested in some Graf Zep.Poste Kartes and some Hindenburg zep cards I still have a few to get rid of!


 

June 28, 2003 Now Chris Yow!
 

Soaking self stick stamps
As some of you may remember, I have been working on the problem of
soaking self stick stamps off paper. After consultation with a world
class organic chemist (The infamous Uncle Al of sci.physics fame)
and many experiments, I have found a very satisfactory method.

The secret is blue windshield washer fluid, the kind with methanol in it.
The procedure is quite simple. Put stamps on paper into a large jar.
Mason jars are ideal. Cover the stamps with windsheild washer fluid and
cover for 24 hours. At the end of the 24 hours, pour the fluid back
into the bottle, (It may be re-used several time, do NOT put it into
your car after use.) Put the stamps into cold water and soak for a
few minutes. The stamps should pop off easily leaving all the adhesive
stuck to the paper. Rinse the stamps several times and dry as you
normally would. Be careful about red and yellow papers, they bleed and
will dye other stamps.

This procedure has been tested on US, GB and Australian self sticks.
On US and GB it works very well. It doesn't work as well on the
Austrailian stamps, but nothing else does on them either.

Chris - don't drink the washer fluid


 

June 28, 2003 stamphick

ASDA Santa Clara
Jim G.. The main problem with the location of the show is that the only place to get a cold brew within walking distance is a hotel lobby bar where a draft beer goes for something like $13. It does come with a nice silver bowl of pretzels though.

David


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


Bill, believe it or not, I've never even tasted Ben & Jerry's, of any flavor. Notwithstanding, my second most chocolatey ice cream would be Double Rainbow Ultra Chocolate, which may be available only in the San Francisco Bay Area. Third is probably Haagen Dazs chocolate chocolate chip. As chocolate goes, it's a pale imitation of the first two (although it doesn't claim to be "dark"). But it's better than most.
 

Hmmm. Ice cream on stamps? Anyone ever seen any?
 

Off to make dinner. Pan-fried tilapia, mashed potatoes, corn on the cob, and green beans. Followed by Godiva, of course. I love Saturdays... :-)
 

Jim


 

June 28, 2003 22:08 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>

stamp info
Mauro.. Pretty sure that 5/ Roo is Scott 12.

David


 

June 28, 2003 john


Brian

this should be rite up your alley,http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2937756673&category=683 now tell me are these not a pair fit for sore eyes,or do they make your eyes sore looking at them!


 

June 28, 2003 john


Ok so the 1st one was bad enough,but check this one out. Here\'s another.......Shame on you Riney


 

June 28, 2003 John @ Magnolia stamps


Lets try againtry it again


 

June 28, 2003 John@ Magnolia stamps


here is another example of what a thief trys to get away with!what a rippoff Simply cut the perfs off and make up a price!


 

June 28, 2003 21:37:04 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 


Jim G., I agree with the Godiva Belgian Dark Chocolate, we had them on sale here a few weeks ago at 2/$5.00... :-)

Bruce, the only places I'd expect that you would ever use the 2400 DPI resolution would be in blowups of a specific area on the stamp. Scan the stamp at 2400, then crop out the portion you need. It would allow you to pretty exactly point out differences between a genuine and forged stamp, for example. Here's an example of where I scanned at 600 DPI (maximum optical for my scanner), then cut the appropriate portions out for inclusion on my album page. The two flanking pages to this one are more examples.


June 28, 2003 John@Magnolia Stamps/ not whitford stark


Joy in N.H.

We don't have an A&P here but we do have Food World and Big Star and of course Wal Mart and thats about what the price is everywhere around here.2 pints for 4 bucks. So pack up and come on down!we can always use another yankee down here!

John


 

June 28, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>

New high res scanner, 2400dpi
Have my new Canon working, the one that has 2400 optical (and was not very expensive, really). It generally works fine, and has a bunch of nice software.


*However*, as for the high-res: I tried a 2400 scan of a 2.5x4" dealer card with some stamps in it, and guess what? a 33MB file resulted (but my, what detail! And it didn't really take long to scan with USB2 - I believe USB2 is faster even than SCSI, which I use at work).


I checked the documentation, and here's what the estimated file sizes are for low & high res, before any compression, on a fairly busy letter-size doc: 100dpi: 2.8MBs. 2400dpi: 1.6GBs (yes, that is gigabytes). It's an expontential file-size increase for each doubling of the res, the doc even says so. Not exactly the kind of res for web usage, even with a lot of compression. Maybe useful for super-detailed analysis, I suppose...


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


Back from the ASDA Santa Clara show.
 

The biggest news out of the show is that next year's WESTPEX is moving. This is apparently a result of a number of factors, the largest being that the Cathedral Hill Hotel has reportedly been sold and will be torn down to make room for a hospital or some such. But there've been a lot of problems in recent years, with the show getting crowded and the hotel and the fire marshall giving them grief. It's also moving to a week later. The new location is further down the peninsula, south of the airport (the Marriott, I think).
 

I didn't have a lot of luck at the show, although I did pick up this NH 420 with a clean PF cert.
 

Ice cream
 

My latest passion is Godiva Belgian Dark Chocolate. I guarantee that ice cream doesn't come any chocolatier than this stuff. Just amazing.
 

john@magnolia stamps - yeah, my collection is pretty sparse before 1900. But I'm 37, and I've got a good 30 years of collecting in front of me, so I can take my time and collect exactly what I want.
 

Jim


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Joy
Almost all of the early Central American stamps were also issued as officials.
Here are some "official volcanoes.

I love Cherry Garcia, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


 

June 28, 2003 Brian McInturff <turff49@aol.com>


Prometheus:
Are you a member of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society?


 

June 28, 2003 6:15 p.m. Joy Tilton <joylark@earthlink.net>

Ice Cream
John Witford Stark: Where? Ben and Jerry's 2pts. for $4.00? What State - I'm moving! It's more like $3.49 per pt. here in NH at best store price, the unless there's a special running! Alas, no A&P! My favorite - Coffee Heath Bar Crunch, 2nd - Cherries Garcia. I think I'll run out and get some. Shame on all of you talking ice cream, some of us want to keep our fetching figures. Hard to stick to good eating habits when Ben and Jerry's comes to mind! I'll just put my nose back in my stamp album again so I can forget quickly. (I'm finding stamp study can be addictive, too!)

Just kidding about ice cream. I need no help to think about or desire it. Just have to keep the will power intact! I'll probably dream of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream tonight! That will do less harm than eating it!
Joy %:')

 


 

June 28, 2003 5:51 p.m. Joy Tilton <joynest1@earthlink.net>

Volcano Stamps/Nicaragua
John----Stark:(Iomoon) I saw your remarks and pics of Nicaragua volcanoes. Went to my old 1800s album. I have close to 100 stamps from Nicaragua. One comment: That site after your 5 stamps...I've never seen such a terrible display and the colors were horridly washed out. I like to check stamps out on sites and the asking prices. At his prices, if only at his quality, ten of my stamps would be worth more than $600 and mine, though hinged are beautifully colored, sharp and clean and very few are cancelled (lightly). I feel lucky and grateful that issue came up on the Chat. It really does help to educate me! How can a professional (I say it lightly, but assume) have the nerve to present such huge numbers of washed out blurry stamps from so many nations? Or are some scanners that poor? I should get one, and if they are, I wouldn't want the brand he has, or is there a trick to getting good scans? (I went further and checked out a few other countries while at the site) Most of those stamps also look as though they've been through the "laundry". I doubt I'll waste my time again on that site. Does he really sell those poor quality stamps? Another question: Are "Franqued Oficial" (Nicaragua) stamps worth much, or anything? I have numbers of those, too. Thanks for your help.
Joy
 


 

June 28, 2003 Prometheus

Brian McIn = Reply
I too collect tied Christmas seals mostly on Postcards,
 


 

June 28, 2003 john@magnoia stamps


io

Yummmmmmmm!


 

June 28, 2003 Brian McInturff <turff49@aol.com>

New to board
Thought I'd introduce myself. I don't frequent the ebay chat board but have frequented Richard Frajola's board so a lot of the posters should recognize me. I collect classics and Christmas seals(odd combination ain't it) One of my exhibits is Christmas Seals tied on covers. Just wanted to introduce myself. :)
Lavar, I can sympathize with you on the age thing. Sorry to here about the cousin.


 

June 28, 2003 16:36 Lavar Taylor


Greetings to all. Sorry I have been a stranger, but work and the death of the son of a cousin to whom I am close have kept me off of the internet recently. Looks like I missed most of the discussion on the eBay board regarding scanning of watermarks. I hope someone has saved those comments.

Today I played organized softball-- only the second time (last week was the first time) since the mid-80's. Managed a couple of hits, couple of walks, an RBI and a bruised leg. That will teach me to indulge in hobbies other than stamps. I have no doubt that (at age 45) I was the oldest one on the field, but had fun anyway.

Knud-Erik, sorry to learn about your suspension. I have already said lots of bad things about that particular ebay policy, so I will bite my tongue now.


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Currently, two 1 pint tubs of Cherry Garcia are $4.00 at A&P.


 

June 28, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Stamp ID ... help needed
Hello, need some help to correctly ID this stamps.

1 - Australia 5/- Roo FRONT and WATERMARK, Scott # for this one is?
2 - Can anyone confirm if this one is TRANSVAAL #47 (at least looks like to me but don't have any other reference exemplar)
Regards

Mauro


 

June 28, 2003 john


Chris

I don't what ice cream cost where your at but down here in Ms. it will cost anywhere from .50 cents to $1.75.I do know a place in Ala.on hwy 72 where a large cone with 3 scoops is a paultry $1.25 u.s. I think its odd how the prices will vary from place to place,here a medium D.Q. is $1.25 and in Fla on I-10 its $2.50...Kind of like cigerettes here are $1.95 to $2.65 for major brands and as low as .85 cents for the off brands,where as in N.Y.C. they are $7.50 per pack ...Talk about a differance!


 

June 28, 2003 sveiki!


Chris Often you don't get those options in smaller towns. The prices shown are pretty normal. For a medium soft serve you could find prices about a third lower than shown - but you really need to be on the outlook for them. Langelinie is a very popular place with lots of tourists - hence the prices.
Retail prices in Denmark are always with VAT (Value Added Tax) included. To get the price without VAT you need to decrease the price with 20% (VAT is 25% on all goods - ALL goods). {:o)


 

June 28, 2003 Now Chris

Sveiki!'s photos
I was looking at them and got curious about what the ice cream cost in US dollars.
Fortunately the web provides numerous currency converters.
A few conversions showed that the ice cream is pretty expensive by my standards.
A medium soft serve is $3, which is nearly double what I would expect to pay.
A two scoop "Mexicaner" is over $4.
How do these prices compare with ice cream in smaller towns?

Chris - guess what I'm having for dinner tonight.


 

June 28, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>

ebay feedback deadline
It as IO said: a matter of one's skills at ebay. If you work off your "My Ebay" page it is 30 days. If you go to the leave feedback page from your own feedback page you can access about 120 days worth of items.
But if you enter the item number in search, it is frequently possible to find an item older than 120 days and to leave feed back for it.


The only way a buyer can be sure to avoid a retaliatory negative feedback from a seller is if the seller has already left his feedback (which he should have done).


 

June 28, 2003 Bill Weiss

Mounts
I am back for awhile then will be away for 4-5 hours. I was suprised at the amount of comments on the subject of mounts. I guess I opened up Pandora's box! I don't particulary advocate Hawid mounts specifically, but rather the open-on-3-sides concept as against the slit-in-the-middle concept. (Can you imagine if a non-philatelist was reading this crap, what they would think of our minds!!). Anyway, there's no question that the stamps are easier to handle and examine in a Hawid-like mount, but that's not why I care. I care because I've seen a goodly number of GOOD mint stamps devalued by the slit, which is very sad to see. It first happened to...you guessed it...ME. I had placed my set of Zepps (Cost $300. many years ago) in Showguards, on a black card, in a bank safety deposit box with other good material, and years later the damn slits had left marks on the gum. After that I saw it many times as a dealer/auction house, so my only concern with any mount is what affect it could have on a stamp.


 

June 28, 2003 sveiki!

Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Today, we went on a sightseeing through the town of Copenhagen.
On the last part of our sightseeing tour I took this photo shoot. For the pleasure of ice cone lovers reading this board, I took a photo of the price list at the pier kiosk situated at the end of Langelinie (Long Line). The Langelinie is where cruise ships are to be found during the summer period, which can be seen on the 12 photos. The grey ship is from the Irish Navy. {:o)


 

June 28, 2003 john@Magnolia stamps


Jim Griffith

I looked through your album that you posted,It looked kind of naked in the early years,I could loan you a few if you would like!


 

June 28, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

mounts and pages
Jim - Tightwad is such an ugly word, I prefer monetarily challenged.

For those who can't print out wide album pages (like me, because I only buy the cheapest printers) you can print them out on standard sheets of paper and then photocopy those onto blank album pages. With a little practice you can even get them fairly well centered within the album page border. Most copiers I've seen, including small desk models, can handle the wide paper. I use G&K blank pages......because they're cheaper than Scott.....natch.


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Unofficial Royal Mail update


 

June 28, 2003 7:03:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 


Jim, your volcanoes are mint, the one offered in that auction is described as postally used. Scott doesn't list it in used, but SG and Michel both do. My catalogs are old, so I don't know if his pricing matches anything... And I can't see the cancel on his crummy scan.


 

June 28, 2003 6:52:24 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Mounts etc.
Jim Griffith, I thought about laser printers when I was looking for a printer as well, but I've had problems in the past with laser printed pages sticking to a binder. When the paper gets too warm (such as sitting in a non-air conditioner house) the toner softens. The HP ink doesn't seem to run when moist like the Canon or Epson inks do. (Just checked a cover page that had something spilled on it, very minimal blurring in the splash)


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Paul
Too complicated for Addie!!


 

June 28, 2003 6.41am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim W-S you did miss some "volacanoes" (sic). I can't comment on price.
 

Paul
 


 

June 28, 2003 6.37am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Are these more of Addies' wares, this time not referred to as fakes:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2937576671&category=703
 

Paul


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Did I miss something?
Apart from the usual pathetic ipix picture did the value of these really increase that much?


 

June 28, 2003 6.03am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim from that 1921 issue onwards, all French Post Offices in Egypt (Alexandria and Port Said) issues were denominated in piastres and milliemes. All previous issues were denominated in francs and centimes. The reason for adopting the local currency at that time was probably significant exchange rate problems, as you mentioned. Indo China stamps changed from francs and centimes to piastres and cents in 1919 for similar reasons.
 

Paul


 

June 28, 2003 Alec McGrattan

Italian Query
Thanks David. Very much appreciated.


 

June 28, 2003 05:45 Jim Watson


Stampass,
Try this.

Paul,
The local (Egyptian) currency was milliemes and piasters at the time. Stamps of foreign Post Offices were most often denominated in currency of the home country. For France this was centimes and francs. The issue which was in use in French POs in Egypt before this surcharge to change the currency was in c. and f. I don't think the change was just to accommodate the local currency although there might have been some local pressure to do so. I think it does have something to do with currency speculation schemes but I haven't anything specific to cite.


 

June 28, 2003 5.16am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim Watson I presume the reason for the overprints is that the currency changed from francs and centimes to piastres and milliemes in 1921.
 

Paul


 

June 28, 2003 stampass


Watson..where's Sherlock?
 


 

June 28, 2003 05:02 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a First Day Cover from the French Post Office in Alexandria in 1921.


 

June 28, 2003 David Benson


Paolo should be able to enlighten you on all the marks and rates but the Orange strait line and the date are from the originating office, the letters in a scroll and the cicular markings are Neapolitan, as to value, not much,

David Benson


 

June 28, 2003 David Benson


Alec, it is from LECCE which is on the heel of Italy,

see,

http://www.italyrentals.com/hotels/italy/hotel_finder_lecce.htm

David Benson


 

June 28, 2003 Alec

Questions Link
Sorry forgot the link.
http://uk.msnusers.com/InflaAlec/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=124


 

June 28, 2003 Alec

Vorphilatelie Italy ?
Help please in trying to id this pre stamp cover. Italian destination Naples from November 1836. But as to where it orinated and what the marks all mean no idea. It's not something I collect but curious as to what it is and if it has any real value.


 

June 28, 2003 3.23am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Thanks, Maarten.


 

June 28, 2003 Maarten Willems

currency
NT$ = New Taiwan dollar


 

June 28, 2003 2.02am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


For the first time, I have come across a seller, based in Australia, using NT$ in an eBay auction. What currency is NT$?


 

June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Mounts etc.
Bjorn, I'm nore concerned with presentation than what dealers think, as I plan on having my collection for 30 years or more, on the web the whole time.
 

Bill, lessee, I use PageMaker and a HP 5000 laserprinter. I decided to pay the extra cost for the more expensive printer for two reasons. One, inkjet printer lines are ever so slightly squiggly. Two, the ink runs when wet (like when you're applying Showgards). But I started using a Canon bubblejet.
 

*Technically*, duplicating their borders may be a copyright violation, BTW. But then my pages have Scott numbers visible, so I'm hardly one to talk...
 

Richard, don't get me started on non-standard Showgards. Since I nest my mounts in fixed-width frames on the page, I can see whenever they deviate. They've got a regular problem with mounts being slightly non-rectangular - slanted to left or right (particularly the JVs, but also the E's). Very annoying. Worse for me is that I occasionally buy a package only to find that the back plastic is thin, making the background grey and slightly opaque. There was a period of 6 months where I couldn't find a size 66 package anywhere in northern California that wasn't grey.
 

David and Bill, I've heard of a couple of other collectors who hinge their Showgards. It saves money when a page needs to be redone. I can't really do that because I frame my mounts on the page, and the movement from hinges makes it look bad. So I pay a *buttload* for Showgards.
 

Richard - tightwad... :-)
 

Anyways, off to bed.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Bjorn Langoren

Mounts etc.
Never tried Showgard mounts, as it looked like a labourous process just to get the stamps in there, and some risk of bending the stamps during insertion. I expect the precess is the same going out. I think in general dealers don't like Hawid at all. They're not as bad as the tube mounts, but I expect it takes a lot more time to inspect a collection in Showgard mounts than Hawid mounts or hinges. That fact alone might detract from the value of a collection, as the dealer will inspect fewer items, and discount mint stamps that were not inspected on both sides. Alternatively, the dealer will inspect them all, and subtract the cost of the extra time spent from his offer.


 


 

June 27, 2003 22:38:50 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Mounts and Pages
I also hinge my mounts to the pages, though I use Scott or Prinz rather than Showguard because I like the black background better than the blue. I use Pagemaker to layout my pages and print on the 9¼ x 11¼ paper, though I have a few thousand sheets of the Specialty size as well for use in priting pages for friends. I print using an HP 1220C inkjet printer, which easily handles much wider paper than I'm likely to ever need (13" wide). I have also duplicated the Scott Specialty border on my pages, as can be seen in the newer countries shown on my web site. Eventually everything will end up migrated to Scott International binders with slip cases. I'm evaluating the jumbo vs. regular sized binders right now, with Turkey going into a jumbo and Argentina going into a regular... I'm currently leaning toward the regular binders, since I've seen some issues with the back edge of the page resting against the binder spine with the Jumbo.


 

June 27, 2003 22:23 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

Hinges
My favorite hinge.


 

June 27, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Oh yeah, another downside to my slitting method is that some sizes of showgards don't have the back slit at exactly the halfway point, which means you may wind up with 2 different size mounts. I've gotten pretty good at trimmimg the oversized ones down with a large paper cutter though.


 

June 27, 2003 9:27 pm Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

mount damage
Never seen the damage described by showgards, but then I probably don't pay as much attention to the gum. Whenever a discussion starts up about Showgards vs. Scott's vs. Hawids, I feel the need to point out that if you are a fan of Hawids, but are budget minded like me, you can buy Showgard or Scott strips and slit the clear front covering in the same exact spot as the slit on the black back side, and effectively double the amount of mounts you have, which is cheaper than buying the exact size of Hawids in strips. You just need to make sure you measure properly the stamp size and gauge it at half of the showgard mount size. The downside is that for some stamp sizes there is not an exact size Showgard strip that will yield exactly the size you need by slitting them. But, the cost savings for me outweighs the 1mm or so difference in size.

I know this sounds a bit wacky, so I won't bother to mention that I also cut stamp hinges in 2 to double the amount of hinges I can use as well....and don't get me strated on 2-ply toilet paper.


 

June 27, 2003 21:25 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>

Mounts
I hinge my mounts.

David
 


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Mounts
Bill, I don't have a lot of experience with Hawid mounts. But they won't work for a number of issues that I have. Anything diamond-shaped, for instance, will continually fall out (and for U.S., check out the folk art, minerals, and even the triangular Pacific '97 issues to see what I'm talking about). I've also got many full-page issues, and I doubt that Hawid mounts would work (or are even available?) for those sizes.
 

I maintain my pages in Scott National binders within slipcases, always standing upright, and never over-filled. My collection is 600 pages spread over 5 3" and 1 1" binder. There should be no pressure placed on the stamps except for gravity on the bottom perfs. So I'm not too worried about Showgard lines. But I wasn't even aware that it's an issue, so I'll keep an eye on them, going forward.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>

Album page size
Yes, Jim - 8.5x11 should do fine for many or most people. But like you, I also have quite a lot of "wide" items that 8.5 doesn't cover (especially with border), and though increasing to only the 9.25 width I use isn't much more, the little extra space makes all the difference in the world on some larger multiples, sheets, and covers.


But actually the main reason I got sucked into larger size is that I had about 20 Scott Specialities already (well over 2000 pages), then I bought the full Scott "Brown" WW pages, also numbering several thousand, in addition to a minority of assorted other sizes & shapes. I collected that way for awhile, but was not happy with the assortment of housing. But I was pretty much boxed in to either Brown Int'l size or the slightly larger Specialty size at that point, if I wanted to make all my housing uniform, which was my goal. 8.5x11 would've meant copying all 5000+ pages onto smaller paper, and having some things not fit after all that. So it was a choice between either the Brown (Int'l) size or the Specialty size (either choice meant over 2500 pages to be copied), and after measuring items and testing binders, I found the 9.25x11.25 just barely adequate in width. For binders, the 2-post Int'ls won hands down. I love 'em. So that was my lifelong-collection decision, made several years ago, and after about 2 years of finding a good wholesale paper supplier, a good labeling device for binders, copying pages ad nauseum, and transfering my entire Specialty collection and other various page brands (mostly Classic-era stamps, BTW) to the new pages, also ad nauseum (except the Brown page set, which were the right size as they were), I'm finally sitting next to a really impressive set of housing in 2 bookcases. It's housing like many people probably dream about...I know I did before I went through this process (ordeal is a better word, perhaps).


Not necessarily would I recommend this housing to anyone, it cost over $10000 for the kit & kaboodle, and a super-human amount of determination and labor - but it's simply the best-housed, most attractive collection I've ever seen. I use Canvas Pro to produce pages, and it can make exact duplicates of the "Scott Specialized look." And $10000 sounds like a lot, but heck, I've spent that much on references, nevermind how much I've spent on stamps. And, you gotta be happy with your housing, I finally decided housing was as important to me as anything in collecting. I spent years not being particularly happy with my disparate pages and binders, a real hodgepodge of assorted different pages and binders, not attractive at all.


Of course this ordeal ate up my stamp budget for some 2 years, and that was indeed a major drawback, lest anyone be thinking about fantastic housing plans such as I've done...and it may appear that I'm collecting "housing" more than collecting stamps, which was quite true for 2 years :-) Only temporarily, though, I'm back to all-stamps now after that "slight detour." To make a short story long, as they say...


 

June 27, 2003 20:36 COVERWIZ

Mount Damage
Yes, I have seen a number of better coleections in Showgard and Scott Mounts with the damage Mr. Weiss describes. I suspect that the damage also occurs during mounting when an impatient collector licks and positions the mount with the stamp already enclosed. Though Crystal Mounts are by far the worse, followed by the early plastic ones sealed on all sides...

I have used Hawid mounts for years for the same reasons. Personally I've never had any problems with stamps falling out.


 

June 27, 2003 8:04PM Bill Weiss

Mounts
JIM; I am not crazy about Showguard mounts or any others that have an open slit in the middle. I have seen a fair share of mint stamps with gum damage caused by that slit. I believe it's a combination of pressure + slight moisture in the air. I am a much bigger fan of Hawid or some other similar mounts where it is open on 3 sides. I know such as Hawid do not give as much enclosed protection as a Showguard so one must be careful when turning pages, but I would rather take my chances with that kind of mount. Are there any other dealers who check this board? I wonder if anyone else has seen this mount-slit gum damage I'm describing? If so, please chime in.


 

June 27, 2003 Brian R

where is my stamp?--update
My bank says he hasn't cashed the check (like you could get very far on that amount anyway, LOL) So, I'll just sit back and let time work this one out. Thanks to all for listening and giving advice.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Album questions
Chuck, I get a stamp certified if it has a CV of $100 or higher. I occasionally buy stamps with a lower CV that already have a cert. And I'll occasionally get a lower-valued stamp expertized if it's notorious for tampering (like the Kansas/Nebraskas and the coils from 1908-10.
 

Don't get too depressed, Chuck. First off, it took me five years to develop the process, do the work and get everything finished and online, and it cost me a lot of money to do so (money which I didn't spend on stamps, I'll point out). Second, I'm very anal about my collection - to the point of pointlessness. It's hard to build a site like mine without both that much time and that level of anal-retentiveness, so most people should be *proud* that they don't have a site like mine...
 

Bruce, I probably would have used 8½x11" paper if it weren't for the large number of wide issues that I have. My laserprinter also cost me $1500 (HP Laserjet 5000), because of the wider format requirement.
 

Bill, I strictly use Showgards. I use pre-cuts whenever possible, and I've got literally every size they make on hand for whatever issue I run across. My latest annoyance is the new American Filmmaking sheet, for which there isn't a proper size, and the nearest available size is 6mm too large. And they're not going to issue a new size for it either, dammit. Anyways, I always claim that I'm responsible for most of the GNP of Liechtenstein (where Showgards are made).
 

For those who like my stuff, I did the best I could to document what I use and do, and there's a page on the site describing my tools.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Bill Weiss

Jim's Collection
JIM; I just spent a few moments looking at your album pages. Great job! Tell me, what kind of mounts are you using?


 

June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>

Scanners & oversize
Nice site, Jim. I hear you on oversize page difficulties, though with me it's copiers, since I "borrow" all types of commercial pages I like (and produce a lot of my own on letter-size paper), and copy them all onto uniform custom-made 9.25 x 11.25 80 lb paper (almost identical to Scott Specialty, it is) to go into my (current #) 45 Scott Int'l regualr-size binders, the kind I prefer over all others. I had to spend $1500 for a decent copier for this, and it takes up 1/3 of a room. Darn fast, though.


I agree on 300 dpi, even 100 or 200 is often sufficient for me. I don't know what 2400dpi will be good for, I can see it's going to be rather slow scanning, and very large file size...maybe plating or the wmk scanning we were discussing on the "old" board...


 

June 27, 2003 Chuck Harm

On-line Album
Jim

Just spent 20 minutes browsing your album. I am depressed now at the pathetic mounting and display that I do. Do you have a criterium for which stamps you procure certs for? It looks like you collect vf or nearly vf stamps. Do you collect hinged or NH? You collection has a lot of overlap with my US collection so I will be examining some of the stamps more closely as I am currently engaged in a quality audit of some of the earlier issues and your single images have enough resolution to see die differences.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Scanners
I have two scanners - an HP of some sort (good quality), and a Mustek A3-sized scanner for my album pages. Both scan up to 1200. When I scan individual stamps, I scan at 300 and use the resulting scans as is. When I scan full pages, I scan at 300 and reduce the scans 50%. There's a decided difference in quality between my two scanners - the Mustek sucks.
 

On my site, individual stamp images through Scott #703 were done with the HP. All individual images after that and all full-page images were done with the Mustek. I'd *love* to dump the Mustek for something else, but it's quite literally the only reasonably-priced scanner (flatbed or otherwise) that can handle a 10½" wide page.
 

For me, there's no value in scanning larger than 300, because the size of the resulting images is just too great. As it is, I've got about 420MB of stamp-related images on my site, with another 50MB of other stuff, with a quota of 500MB.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell

High res scanner
Okay, sure, Bill - *if* I can upload a 2400 dpi with 56K in a reasonable time :-) I'm gonna try to get it hooked up and scanning by tomorrow. Some nice software came with it, too. Man, when I think back what I paid about 8 years ago for just a really slow 600dpi B&W scanner...


Anyway, my last scanner is 600 with so-called 2400 enhancement, too. That extra enhanced dpi never seemed to do much for me, not the same as optical - unless I never used it right or something.


 

June 27, 2003 17:49 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>


Jim G... True that silliness, ego, and worldwide derision isn't exclusive to the French but they are certainly the global leaders.

David


 

June 27, 2003 17:40:28 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Hello, new scanner
Bruce, you're going to have to link us a 2400 DPI scan of something. It should show pretty darn good detail! I'm not sure what happens when I scan at 2400, I beieve it actually does 600 optical and interpolates the remainder on my HP.


 

June 27, 2003 17:38:10 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Negative Feedback
Brian, have you tried a voice call to the seller? That method has worked wonders for me in the past when emails are getting ignored.


 

June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com> http://www.classicbruce.com
 

Hello, new scanner
Say, this board is getting busy, good. We certainly can use a more "free-speech" oriented alternate that has a decent following.


UPS just delivered new Canon USB2 scanner, I've been scan-disabled since I went to new PC & XP: no selling, no posts with scans for opinions, etc., kind of frustrating. I now have a seemingly preposterous 2400 dpi res (that's optical). Seems like overkill, though maybe for minute details, it may be useful...kind of fun, anyway, new toy to play with...


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


Brian, silliness, ego, and worldwide derision isn't exclusive to the French.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Brian R

the french still matter?
Maybe, the French government is leaning on ebay, because its the only entity the French could find, that even remotely cares what they think anymore.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

France
Ken, it's very odd that eBay didn't launch (and win) an ICANN appeal of iBazaar's squatting on "ebay.fr". Oh, wait, ".fr" probably doesn't fall in ICANN's jurisdiction, which is why the French courts ruled (those boneheads).
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


bjorn, I am not taking Ebay's side but Knud got 5 warnings. I think that is fair and even though I do not agree with Ebay's stance, it is their policy and sellers should know the rulings and it was 5 strikes and your out for a month. If any seller keeps on listing after getting 5 warnings about any breaking of their rules they are lucky to only get one month, it could have been life.

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 16:07 Ken Srail

France and eBay
Jim, eBay does have a presence in France and it's been a rather stormy relationship so far...


 

June 27, 2003 15:51 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Suspension and Swastikas
It's odd that Knuden would be suspended after just one item - who tipped eBay off? This is stupid. I've seen (and bid on too) quite a few Norwegian censor covers with swastikas on them, and have never seen any of them dissapear. But I noticed one seller in Argentina who started painting black over the swastika part of the seals (on the scan, not the actual cover!). Of course, anyone even slightly familiar with this stuff would know what was there.
 


Is ebay.de off limits to users registered in France?
 


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Actually Jim, I think 90 days is the absolute max from the end of the auction, not the last transaction. At that point item is removed from ebay data files.
In either case, its 2 months longer than most people are led to suspect.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


IO - Jim, ah, then it's not actually possible to prevent a retaliatory negatie - you can just make it a little harder to do, depending on how knowledgeable the other person is. That sucks, although it makes some sense.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

suspensions etc
Dave P - say that a user tries to register in a "restricted zone". How does eBay verify that the user *isn't* in France, especially if the user is perfectly willing to enter false information to gain access? eBay has no way to verify that someone isn't actually in France, which is why they don't do what you suggest.
 

On eBay, you simply click a button which says "I'm 18" to get at adult material (I just tried it for the first time, to see what's involved). That sort of thing isn't 'good enough' for the French Nazi law, at least not when Yahoo! tried dealing with it.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jim
Length of feedback period depends on how good you are at manoeuvering on eBay.
If you do not go beyond "my ebay page" it is 30 days.
If you use "feedback forum" it was (and probably still is) 90 days (its been a while since I've had a feedback go beyond 30 days).
If one person leaves a feedback about the other, you have up to 90 days from when that remark was posted (using the link accessible via your feedback number).
If you look at your own feedback pages and auction numbers are still underlined in blue (default color), you can still leave feedback.
Just looked at Colin's and his goes back to March 26th.


 

June 27, 2003 Dave P

suspensions etc
Jim


I think it would be possible to block countries from the Nazi stuff. Simply put it in a restricted zone that requires special registration, and then deny registration to anyone in those countries where it is illegal - exactly what they do with adult material now. As I said, the revenue generated would probably not justify the hassle from their point of view.


 

June 27, 2003 Brian R


BTW- Very good idea to check the bank (I can do that electonically) If the check has been cashed, he's getting a neg, even if it means I get realiation. If not, I'll even give him another month, to recover or whatever. The only reasons I'm so patient are: A)I like to think I'm a nice guy, and B)What seller is going to intentionally risk his perfect feedback over $4?


 

June 27, 2003 Charles L. Williams <cwilliam@joplin.com>

Prohibited items
Knud-Erik... ebay's Nazi prohibition is totally ridiculous and discriminatory, but ruthlessly consistent. My condolences. I suggest in the future you sell this material on ebay.de. I did a little testing last year when this first came up. I ran some material on ebay.com - they subsequently deleted it - I re-listed the exact material with no change in description whatsoever on ebay.de - and lo and behold, it sold with no interruption. Go figure!


 

June 27, 2003 Brian R

the disappearing seller
Guillaume The seller has nothing currently up and his last feed back was 6/7. It has occured to me that he might be ill (or worse). On the other hand, he's been a seller since 1999 with only 230 (all good) feedback, so he's not a prolific lister.

I would hate to neg some poor guy who is recoving from a heart attack or something :o( It's not much money, and while I still want the stamp, I could live just as well without it. I'd be happy if I was only contacted to say hold on awhile longer.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Negative Feedback
Brian, it probably goes without saying, but in case it doesn't, if you plan on leaving negative feedback, wait until the absolute last minute to do so (whatever that is - I don't know). It's become a matter of policy for eBay users to leave retaliatory negatives, even when they're in the wrong. My sister, who isn't wise in the ways of eBay, didn't know that, left a justified negative long before the feedback deadline, and was upset when her "10" rating was spoiled by a retaliatory negative.
 

Can someone remind me what the feedback period is?
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

France and eBay
guillaume, well, yes and no. The French can pass any laws they want, but unless and until you enter their jurisdiction, it doesn't mean much. I believe eBay actually operates offices in France and maintains some sort of business presence there, which is why they took it seriously. Ditto Yahoo!, who was actually taken to court over it. In other words, if a country has the ability to seize some of your assets, that's when you start respecting their laws.
 

In another exteme example, there's some French University which operates at least one satellite campus in the U.S. (Atlanta or some such). Last I heard, the French government was giving them grief because the satellite campus' web page was in English only, and French law required it to be in French.
 

The French are goofy in a couple of ways. First, they've got the whole Nazi thing (which the Germans also have, although they have different priorities). Second, the French have a serious fear that their language is going to be destroyed, and they have de facto language police who do things like hassle French web sites for not supporting French properly.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 2:15 pm Bob in WA

Knuden suspension
Knud-Erik -- Very sorry to hear of your suspension. It just shows how screwed up eBay is if they suspend someone like you while allowing crooks and scammers to continue fleecing the gullible with their altered crap. And whoever turned you in is a real lowlife, in my opinion. Sorry you have to put up with such nonsense, but you know you have much moral support here.


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


Brian, have you checked your bank statement to see if check has been debited,

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 Guillaume


Brian: I hate it when that happens. Problem is, do you want to ruin your own feedback (retaliation) over 4 bucks? Did you check if there is any recent activity by that seller - so you know he is not ill or something?


 

June 27, 2003 Brian R

advice?
I won a small ebay lot a little over 4 weeks ago. Payed that day, and so far, no stamps. 4 e-mails have gone unanswered. Ironically, the seller has perfect feedback which seems weird for the level disinterest apparent.

I haven't ever left a neg before, but this one, is getting close. I've decided to send one more e-mail and wait ten days(six weeks exact) then ruin his perfect record. I don't know what else to do.

Two other things to take into consideration:
This was a check payment, my e-mails have been to the tune of "Did you get this payment?"
All this worry is over a $4 dollar lot, and of course, the principal involved in it.

Am I being too harsh?


 

June 27, 2003 Guillaume

Protecting people against themselves
One more comment regarding the nazi-issue. Since I live in Belgium, I cannot access adult material and certain Third Reich stuff on eBay (similar laws), I get a message stating something like "since you live in a country that does not allow the sale of this material, you are not allowed to view this item". How come they can block me from running auctions and not the French? Why do they keep these auctions running in the first place if they do not want the legal hassle?


 

June 27, 2003 Richard W

certs
Further to my earlier queries, I have just acquired on Ebay two items accompanied by photocopies of certificates without illustrations. Impressed? (Just as well I know the material is good!)


 

June 27, 2003 Richard W

nazis
Perhaps in France there is still something of an uneasy conscience about the Vichy period?


 

June 27, 2003 Richard W


Jim - thanks. I'd be interested to know. Io - Harrow, yes, that's the one.


 

June 27, 2003 Guillaume


Point well taken. I just do not understand how the French could have such jurisdiction over an American based company. So, basically - and concerning this particular issue - one country is hijacking the whole internet? As soon as a Frenchman has access to, for instance, a site in Mongolia selling nazi-stuff they can have it shut down? Ridiculous!


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Stampdile
Richard, I dunno, and I won't be attending the show until tomorrow. I'll try to remember to see if he's there.
 

Unfortunately, most of my budget for tomorrow was blown when I won four lots at the latest Siegel auction (one of which it turns out I already have - and better than what I just won, too, dammit). So I'm not going to get to do as much buying as I'd hoped to do.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 nomad55


Richard W.....send your concerns to Ed Hines


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Richard

No that you mention it, I thought name was familiar.
A few years back a young English entrepreneur with an Indian name begining with "A" (my memory is going) commented with a certain disfavor on a seller in Harrow.


 

June 27, 2003 Richard Warren

Stampdile at Santa Clara
Jim Griffith - Thank you, Jim. That confirms what I heard. But I wonder if he actually took up the stand and traded? Did anyone there notice? Stampdile sells all kinds of nasty rubbish including Myanmar illegals, trading on Ebay as "stamps2buy" - hence my interest. He's been banned elsewhere. But then, what does ASDA care ...


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


Bill, I had a look at the buyers history, he has bought a few lots of forgeries, maybe he is of that ilk. Some people collect strange material.

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 


Bleah.


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Suspensions & Nazi Stuff
Dave P

, I believe that eBay's position on the whole France and Nazi thing is that even if they detect and block French IP's or domain names, there's nothing that prevents a Frenchman from getting access to the material through some other source, like Yahoo! or Hotmail. As such, even if eBay did what you suggest, they'd still be technically in breach of the decision by that bonehead of a French judge. It's not technically possible to block "everyone from a country" as the French require. While I'm not thrilled with the eBay policy, the real culprit here is the French legal system, which has a very large ego and no understanding of how the Internet functions.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

ASDA Santa Clara
Richard Warren, I haven't been there, but just by looking here, Stampdile is supposed to be there.
 

Jim


 

June 27, 2003 11.23 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
 

Japan lot high price
Bill Claghorn

It would seem to me that the 2 bidders hope(d) for some genuine in that envelope! Always a chance I suppose, but very remote, a bit like the lottery.

Colin


 

June 27, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)

Suspension
If Ebay had the will, it would be perfectly possible for them to have a section in stamps for 3rd Reich items which was inaccessible to French subscribers. I presume they feel the revenue gained is not worth the effort.
I just hate all political interference, the ban on Cuban items also irritates the hell out of me (not that I wish to buy or sell any!).
Knud Eric I add my commiserations.


 

June 27, 2003 10:07 Jim Watson


Guillaume,
Unfortunately, the swastika suspensions are an eBay defense against the threat from the French government to shutdown eBay. The French are very active in this form of censorship. I don't think that America or Americans, in general, are really supportive of this kind of restriction; certainly I know of no stamp collectors who favor it. eBay just doesn't have the backbone to tell them to go 'stuff' it. When this first came up with Yahoo!, eBay was struggling to grow and didn't want to add this sort of a fight to their problems.

That being said, it is clear that some cowardly curmudgeon has singled out Knud-Erik for special attention. eBay needs to take special attention to offset this kind of targeting.

Just my ½¢.


 

June 27, 2003 1630 BST Ed.B

Suspension
Knud Eric: Also sorry to hear about your suspension. As we English say, 'It's all a load of bollox!'

Ed


June 27, 2003 1625 BST Ed.B

IO or OI for the prof.
iomoon: Jim, Please CYE.Have used 'overland'. Another little IO lady for you.

Ed


 

June 27, 2003 Guillaume


"Banning propaganda items from sellers who are blatantly advertizing/celebrating the underlying ideology is completely different from selling historic items which happen to bear symbols referring to it."

Grammar is not too good here, sorry.
Should be: Banning sellers who are... different from banning people selling historic items which...


 

June 27, 2003 Guillaume


Knud-Erik, I find it utterly disgusting that you were suspended for that reason. I have Russian items with those markings and I treasure them because of their historic value. My country, like yours and many others, was occupied once by the Swastika-people and I have the right to know what happened then. It is strange that a company based in a country that was never occupied would ban this kind of material so blindly. Also, many Americans died in WWII for the cause of freedom as well. Is it not important to remember why? Is it not important to study (or simply be aware of) propaganda in order to ensure that our freedom will never be jeopardized again by those tactics? Banning propaganda items from sellers who are blatantly advertizing/celebrating the underlying ideology is completely different from selling historic items which happen to bear symbols referring to it. Is it so hard to see the difference? I know WWII veterans and victimized minorities are sensitive to the matter and I understand that. But I am part of a new generation and I want to draw lessons from the past. If eBay insists on being over-the-top politically correct, it should immediately ban all items relating to Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Mao, Saddam Hussein, various Latin American dictators etcetera as well.

By the way, Knud-Erik, I second David's suggestion to check out the Delcampe site. If you need any information, just send me an email - kiompie(at)skynet.be


Sorry for the rant.


 

June 27, 2003 06:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Why such a high price??
D2 Can you explain why this Japan lot went for such a high price?


 

June 27, 2003 05:09 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Suspension
Knud Eric I agree about the need for privacy. ebay only takes action on these items if someone reports you. Therefore, someone is out to get you. Be careful!


 

June 27, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Suspension
Knuden Sorry to hear of your suspension - hopefully you will do good business on the other sites mentioned.

Just a word to the wise - I wouldn't use your other ID to post on the Ebay Chat board as, if someone reports you, you will get that ID suspended as well. You could also be suspended indefinitely for posting while suspended.

Mark.

(Using the word "suspended" far too many times in 1 post)


 

June 27, 2003 04:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

eBay DE
Knud Eric What about eBay 2936750417 or 2936751222 or 2935953433 or 2936714794 or ... Ah, the list goes on and on.

Perhaps if eBay had a flood of complaints about all of them they would get so tired that they would finally decide that they can not re-write history.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 27, 2003 Richard W


Try again.

Out of curiosity, did anyone over there who went to the Santa Clara ASDA show notice whether a UK dealer called Stampdile had a stand, and was selling?

 


 

June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Either this guy needs a geography lesson or Manchuria was a darn sight larger than I ever thought.
I suppose we can forgive him since few people have a clue as to where Tannu Tuva is anyway!!


 

June 27, 2003 Richard Warren

Santa Clara show
Blast. Why didn't that link?

Out of curiosity, did anyone over there who went to the Santa Clara ASDA show noticw whther a UK dealer called Stampdile had a stand, and was selling?


 

June 27, 2003 bryan


you might try selling at www.sellyouritem.com listings free and some huge sellers of wwll stuff there


 

June 27, 2003 Richard Warren

scanning watermarks
OK. here's what I posted elsewhere. This - http://www.bilston73.freeserve.co.uk/farmers/wmk.jpg - (sorry, one day I'll remember to link without the url) is a scan of a block-sized watermark, elephant & "TITAGHUR SUPERFINE" on laid paper. No perfs, and an example where the printing has not shown through to the back to interfere with the image of the watermark. Scan at a reasonable resolution on a black background (no fluid), then play about with brightness & contrast controls in image processing software.


 

June 27, 2003 04:29 Jim Watson

Oxidation and Hydrogen Peroxide
I've had success in removing oxidation from US 6¢ 1918 MNH orange airmail (Scott C1) with careful use of a cotton swab (Q-tip). Not exactly a fun procedure but it did work.


 

June 27, 2003 04:23 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is an airmail(?) cover from Germany to Australia in 1937. Meet the Crosbys!


 

June 27, 2003 Lars Boettger <alpha2@pt.lu>


Knud-Erik:

Translation Champagne-letter:

"As I will start in the coming autumn to introduce your champagne in my business/shop, I kindly ask you to tell me how many bottles you could provide (see the enclosed label), waiting expectandly for you reply, with all due respects..."

This is no word-to-word translation, as the old German handwriting is difficult to read but it should come fairly close to the meaning.

As this is the first posting on this board, a few words about my person: Collecting interest: Letters send to and from F. Huth, London, including their perfins, some may know me via eBay; member in a local stamp club in Luxembourg and in the APS.

Best regards,

Lars


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


knud, try Delcampe,

http://stamps.delcampe.com/main.php?language=E&PHPSESSID=ea6c6f1dc6c3a0e3653a97dc4f9b6b3f


They have a very big following in France and Belgium, try some there, see what happens.

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 02.56 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
D2 - As far I know there is no problems with this kind of material on Ebay.de. I had started selling these items at Ebay.de but a single cover with a swastika slipped through and I was suspended. My fault - but there is nothing I can do at Ebay but wait the 30 days. I will in the meantime try to sell on another auction site. Any sugestions?

Knud-Erik.


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


knud, looks like 5 strikes and your out (for a month). What is the ruling if you listed the meterial on Ebay Genrmany.

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 01.46 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
d2 - Hello David. Here is the wording:"Please understand that enforcement of our policies is not reflective of seller status or feedback. This action has been taken only after careful consideration of your account history of offenses for this violation, in accordance with eBay Policies and the eBay User Agreement."

My fault is I have had listing ended more times (5) at Ebay and this seems to be the limit. As I have seen other sellers, of this kind of material, selling it time after time, without being suspended, I'm sure someone has been turning me in at Ebay more times. :O(



Knud-Erik


 

June 27, 2003 David Benson


Knud, sorry to hear about your problem but there is nothing you can do but wait the 30 days. What was the wording on your warning.

David Benson


 

June 27, 2003 01.04 Knud-Erik (knuden)

SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
I woke up to a mail from Ebay telling me, I have been suspended from Ebay in 30 days for "engaging in activity expressly prohibited on eBay's site after receiving prior warning to discontinue such activity, specifically: violating our Offensive Materials guidelines."
My fault is I have been selling German covers with swatsika on. I still don't understand why it's allowed to sell stamps with these symbols and not covers.
I now have to find another auction site and inform my buyers about it - i sometimes wish stampcollectors could agree finding another place than Ebay but I know it's only wihful thinking.
Now I need some strong coffee and a lot of thinking of what to do now.

Knud-Erik.
 


 

June 26, 2003 20:35 FERD W.


NOMAD- UPU Int'l post [&postal] cards Airmail rate from US was .36 from Apr.3 1988 to 2 Feb. 1991 . FW


 

June 26, 2003 20:22:05 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Watermarking via scanner
With all the good thoughts on this process we've seen over the last day or so, I thought I'd give it a try with some tough subjects.

These [100K] are some stamps from Western Samoa. They are either watermarked with a 'star and NZ' or a 'star and multiple NZ' or with an inverted version of one of those watermarks. I should note that using the expensive watermark fluid and a good tray I was able to see the watermarks on all but one of these stamps.
This shows the same stamps, turned around on the page and scanned dry in color and black&white.
I added some Ronsonol lighter fluid and placed my plastic tray over the stamps: color and black&white.
I removed the tray and used a flat sheet of plastic to try and get a tighter seal: color and black&white.
Finally, I doused them all with a lot more fluid... color and black&white.

It may just be me, or my technique, but I couldn't make out watermarks in any of those scans. :-(


 

June 26, 2003 2017 Clark (reperf) <me@gotsomespam.com>

Oxidation
Regarding oxidation on unused stamps with gum:

I have been informed that putting peroxide on some small pieces of sponge and placing them near the stamp in a tightly closed small box (a sweat box) is effective for reversing oxidation without completely destroying the gum. The recommended initial time was an hour, but it could take longer. Take care to make sure that the gum is not in contact with anything.

Suggest testing with an inexpensive stamp first.


 

June 26, 2003 7:45PM Bill Weiss

Oxidation
JOHN; I do not believe removing oxidation with peroxide (or an eraser) constitutes an alteration, and I see no reason to describe it in a future sale. I do not know if there is any permanent damage done if it is not literally rinsed off such as the technique you describe. One fellow who I trust once told me he was able to remove it on mint stamps by using a fine brush, dipped in the peroxide, then extra lightly brushed onto the face of the stamp.....but he warned that any excess peroxide could soak into the stamp and ruin the gum. It always sounded too dangerous to me, so I've never tried it, and don't plan to anytime soon!


 

June 26, 2003 Brian R

just an observation
I'm one of the biggest whiners about the USPS "spaming" the collector market with way too many commemeratives and high value S/S's.

However, I've got to give them a nod for how far the've come in changing their outlook. Specifically, I'm thinking of the BEP cards provided to shows, the Pan-Am invert S/S, and the like. What a long road to travel from destroying the value of the Hammarskold errors.


 

June 26, 2003 7:30pm John Cunningham

Oxidized Stamps
Bill & Steve..

Thanks for the responses. The two stamps that I am most concerned about are certified mnh. I was thinking about a 'dry brush' approach with a mild hydro. peroxide. solution while the stamp was under a light source that produced moderate heat to aid in evaporation. If I cannot avoid gum disturbance, then I guess the details don't really matter. If it is considered 'altering' the stamp, then I want to make sure that the treatment is declared if the item is sold. Ultimately, I can just immerse the items in solution and kiss the gum goodbye if need be, but I would like to avoid that if possible. Would there be any long term detriment to the paper from exposure to the solution if it were not rinsed away? Thanks!


 

June 26, 2003 nomad55


Can someone tell me what was the airmail rate for postcards from US to France in August 1988?


 

June 26, 2003 6:55PM Bill Weiss

C3a Scam
I believe that design is also cut from a BEP card and how I remembered it was that (believe it or not!) I was there when the card was issues! It was at the 1973 NAPEX show, which was my first BIG stamp show, and as rookie luck would have it, I not only had a great show, but our booth got photographed and the photo was featured in a pretty big DC article about the show. Talk about being "young and dumb", I was so concerned about all the cash we took in, that I twisted the arm of an older dealer to give me a check for the cash! DUH!! Can't imagine doing anything much dumber than that!


 

June 26, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>

general
Roger, nice to see you having a good time in Wales. (Hopefully you weren't going there to do 'humpback' sightings?)


 

June 26, 2003 1700 Prometheus

Stamp Items for sale = Briguy
Noticed today that one of Paul Harvey's Advertizers is the guy /web site that sells hugh blowups of cancelled stamps poster size.
Must be doing OK to advert Nation wide on Paul Harvey . ??


 

June 26, 2003 nomad55

Santa Clara show
IMHO a relatively good show, as I picked up a few nice covers, and some oddball stuff that looked "interesting".

Post Office had flag booklets and missionary sheets, plus the new 25-cent coils - either in strips of 10 or you could ask them to unroll as many as you wanted.


 

June 26, 2003 Brian R


Hmmmm my link failedtry again
 


 

June 26, 2003 Brian R (briguy)

a little fun for the board
Here we go again! According to this seller the stamp is a true BEP issue. All it would need is a trip through upstate NY (for perfs) to make the illusion complete.

Does anyone else think that these goofy offers are multiplying, due to the stupid realizations, we've (and the scammers) have recently noticed?


 

June 26, 2003 2345 BST Ed.B

Spoof or not spoof
My,my, they have been busy today. Not only did I receive that email from *Paypal but also received one from Ebay and another from Yahoo all saying much the same thing.

Ed


 

June 26, 2003 3:36 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp)

'Oxidized' Stamps
Mint stamps are more of a challange. I've had great success using a very small and fine artists brush using 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Solution (the kind you get at a drugstore as an antiseptic...beware of other ingredients tho .001% Phosphoric Acid as a stabilizer is ok). Dip the tip of the brush into the solution and 'paint' the oxidized ink (being careful NOT TO touch exposed uninked paper). This works very well if only a small portion of the stamp is 'oxidized' but is extremely tedious if the entire stamp is 'oxidized'.

I've read about using fumes but haven't tried it. I probably would try it for a stamp whose ink was completely oxidized.

A risk with used stamps is that soaking might effect the cancellation.

I don't consider the use of hydrogen peroxide to reverse a naturally occuring process as deceptive or unethical (unlike regumming, reperfing, etc). To my mind it is no different than soaking a used stamp in water to clean it.


 

June 26, 2003 sveiki!

spoof or not spoof
It doesn't matter what URL is showed in the mail.
What matters is the URL you actually end up seing of the page in question. You could be redirected a million times, the e-mail could contain a hidden redirection.


 

June 26, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Thanks Knud-Erik, however, I already have a fair number of Vesuvius postcards
Been working all day on cleaning up my web site.
What with duplication, unlinked files, old ebay auctions etc., managed to remove over 2 Megs and 80 files.
Also gave me a chance to update Central America


 

June 26, 2003 13:39 Ken Srail

Spoof or not spoof
It's a spoof.

 

Legitimate eBay URL's will begin with
 

http://cgi3.ebay.com/...

http://pages.ebay.com/...

http://cgi.ebay.com/...

https://scgi.ebay.com/...

https://arribada.ebay.com/...

 

eBay's Protecting Your Account Page


 

June 26, 2003 1:35PM Bill Weiss

Oxidized Stamps
To JOHN; I have removed oxidation from used stamps lots of times over the years. I just use a simple watermark tray, put the stamp in it, pour over the peroxide and let it sit for a few minutes, remove it, wash it with cold water, press and dry. Never had any problems. Have heard that this method may be dangerous by using pure peroxide, and have heard it suggested you should dilute the peroxide, so if anyone else wants to clarify this, feel free. I've been told it can also be removed from mint stamps too by a fume process, with the peroxide in a tray, a grid-bed above the peroxide and supposedly the fumes from the peroxide will remove the oxidation. This always seemed too risky to me. Also, sometimes light oxidation can be removed simply by gently erasing it with a good quality non-abrasive erasure. Hope this helps.


 

June 26, 2003 12:40 Dave ("philatarium")

Watermark Scanning
I am reading with great interest the discussion on the eBay chat about scanning watermarks. I wonder if the people who posted their techniques there (including Richard W. ("sayasan"), Knud-Erik, "classicbruce", etc.)) would be willing to repost them here?

First, it would allow them to be permanently kept here. Second, I would like to pull these together into a "thread" that we could archive separately. Third, I am a little uncomfortable with copying and pasting eBay-based posts here (or on a page related to this board), although I did do so for the EUSC meeting.

I would also like to pull together the recent posts about CSA stamps. I'll get that started over the weekend, hopefully, and then can maybe ask someone to go back through the old posts to find other relevant CSA material to include with the recent ones.

Over the weekend, hopefully, I'll also update the archives, and include the couple of posts pertaining to the EUSC meeting that I did not get included with the current web version.

One other thing concerning scanning watermarks, and one reason for my limited time: I'm currently taking 3 (count 'em, 3) Photoshop classes simultaneously, in an intense little summer session. These classes are geared for photographers, as opposed to graphic designers, and the scanning issues and image manipulation topics that will be covered are highly pertinent to our philatelic needs, so I have great hopes that I'll be able to learn Photoshop well enough to be able to learn or develop some techniques that would be relevant to us. Keep your fingers crossed. (I can usually learn software packages pretty quickly, but an earlier version of Photoshop was definitely my Waterloo! That's why I'm taking these classes while I can, but it's temporarily taking a lot of time away from other things right now.)

Anyway, thanks in advance to anybody who reposts.


 

June 26, 2003 John Cunningham


I have several orange US stamps that need to be 'revived'as they have oxidized. I have read up on the use of a solution including a few drops of hydrogen peroxide. Can anyone tell me of their own experiences with this approach? Any upsides or downsides of which I should be aware? TIA


 

June 26, 2003 12.26 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Volcano allert
iomoon - look here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2936414682&category=7902 :O)

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 26, 2003 12:17 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Spoof or not Spoof
Looks fishy. The text you copied shows an URL within eBay, but the email (if it was in HTML) may have contained a link which was something completely different.
 


 

June 26, 2003 1910 BST Ed.B

Spoof or not Spoof
Received this today. Anyone else had the same.

Ed

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June 26, 2003 Prometheus

Jim W = Thanks for that link
BOB H = What a great reference site.
I found an Oleo tax stamp in a box once.
Nice to know more about it.


 

June 26, 2003 9:49 Dave ("philatarium")


Roger: Great that you checked in! We've missed your witty and thoughtful posts.

Do check in when you can, and we'll be expecting a full report when you get back home.


 

June 26, 2003 Roger Heath

Vacation is great
Hello All, I'm just checking in from Machynlleth, Wales. Everything is going along fine. I'll be looking in again later.

Roger


 

June 26, 2003 nomad55


Santa Clara show today - in search of interesting expo covers.


 

June 26, 2003 06:12 Jim Watson


Bob H.,
Your web site got some favorable mention in the recent issue of the Philatelic Literature Review (2nd Quarter 2003).


 

June 26, 2003 Bob Hohertz

INDYPEX
Off to INDYPEX, to get exhibit mounted. Hope to meet a few online friends there. Have to give a talk Saturday (yawnnnn?) And even may buy a few things.....


 

June 26, 2003 Jim Lawler


 

INDYPEX 2003

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

Jim L.
 


 

June 26, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Gód dæg eall.
Richard's,
while I was in England this summer, my nephew showed me his card collection, inherited from my father. It's worth several thousand. In addition to the cricketers and footballers, one of my favorite topics is that of military uniforms. Extremely colorful.


 

June 26, 2003 03:20 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a censored airmail cover from Norway to Portuguese East Africa in 1945.


 

June 26, 2003 sveiki!

Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
This is how my alarm clock of the day looked like. Incredible how many decibels they produce. {:o)


 

June 26, 2003 Dave P

Cig Cards
Richard B


Players was (is) one of the big UK cigarette brands, and the cards are very popular. Cricket & Football cards are two of the most popular themes so you have a nice set there.

One thing I do notice is that cig card collectors and postcard collectors are not as obsessive about condition as stampers, better condition does go for a better price but the differential is much smaller. I have sold a number of postcards in frankly poor condition, if they had been stamps they would have gone in the trash.


 

June 26, 2003 11:32 pm Bob in WA

$5 Columbian block again
I just discovered I own one of those BEP sheets! It's the Compex 1973 sheet--Chicago May 25-7. And I thought Bill was correct about the value tablets being altered, but we were both wrong. They are exactly the same on the sheet. He just cut it out and put it on eBay. Those sheets, even though cheap, are rather pretty art. Seems a shame to cut them up, and an outrage to deceptively hawk the trimmings.


 

June 25, 2003 David Benson


Bill Longley, even though Peter Jaffe must be in his 90's or more he is still very active in philately He is trying to reconstruct the CANCELLED handstamps on the various colonials. Sounds a daunting task but not really as most have been photocgraphed and it is just a jigsaw puzzle trying to fit them back where they were. I think most are in his own collections.

David Benson


 

June 25, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Richard W - I've seen a lot of the same things in the gum card collecting field as in the stamp collecting world. Things like Counterfeits, reproductions, fantasy issues, "doctored" cards have all been arround for a while now. I seem to recall an add in an old trade paper by a guy who called himself "The card doctor". He could "fix" or "repair" any faults on cards, and improve their appearance.

I believe I actually have a nearly complete set of cricket player cig. cards from 1934 or soemething like that. I believe the name on them is "Player & Sons". I don't know a thing about cricket or the players on the cards, but they sure are pretty. I can see why people frame them for display.


 

June 25, 2003 Bill L.

Chile Cancelled.
David B., Bill S, Mauro M.

I started thread by telling Mauro to post the image here. The "cancelled" postmark is similar to those used by Perkins Bacon to prepare gift sets to 6 people in 1861. There are about 430 or 450 examples known. The Newfoundland "Cancelled" stamps are quite rare and have sold for $1000s each. I was curious to know if the same applied to other countries.

And I have now found the answer to my own question "Did Chile get "Cancelled" hammers?

Jaffe's book on Perkins Bacon pg 84 says Aug 31 1860, 200 brass "Cancelled between bars" handstamps were supplied."
 


 

June 25, 2003 David Benson


Bill, AFAIK the INUTIL was made locally and just copied the British inscription. It was the intention of Perkins Bacon that the cancel be used for Specimen purposes and not for general cancellations. I read an article on them about 25 years ago but no idea which magazine it was in.

David Benson

 


 

June 25, 2003 16:30:37 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Chile Classics
Mauro, if you look at the Chile collection on my web site, you'll see more examples of both the CANCELLED and INUTIL markings, along with a few more details... Those cancels arrived in Chile from England in 1860.


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
You're comparing the wrong pair.
MS has it for £69.50.


 

June 25, 2003 nomad55


Richard W....regarding certificates without pictures, a while back the Confederate Society declared all their certificates issued without photo to be invalid.

(My CSA certs are all of the newer variety, with pic)


 

June 25, 2003 15:35 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Generic sheets
IOmoon How can pedigreestamps sell it for £65.00 with a real bidder when MS has it for £34.50?

Sounds like Philatelic Literature where an item on eBay will go for twice Phil Bansner.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 25, 2003 Dave P

Generic Sheets
The saving grace is, I think, that they were not produced for stamp collectors, but for football fans, who will keep them with their signed photographs, programs and nineteen versions of the away strip. I think any future market for them will be the football memorabilia one. Nice little earner for RM though.

The Boots sheets and the later variations on the theme are catalogued by Gibbons.


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Santa Clara ASDA show
Bleah. I just got back from the philatelic window in San Jose. It seems they're not going to the ASDA show - it's going to be the Santa Clara USPS people attending. So if you were planning on going there to stock up on stuff you've been missing, you'll be out of luck - they'll probably only have the newer stuff. You'll be better off driving to the San Jose office on Saturday, when the philatelic window is open.
 

I went there to pick up the new Old Glory booklet, which you won't receive if you're in the USPS subscription program. Now I have to figure out how totake them apart and how to mount them. The booklet has two blocks of 10, with the two having different backings. I'm worried that Scott may differentiate between the backings at some point in time. Also, the pages aren't perforated (the way the submarine booklets were), and they're glued, not stapled. So extracting them may be tough.
 

Jim


 

June 25, 2003 01.04 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
 

Generic sheets
Bill & Jim Io

Generic Sheets For stamps to be catalogued by Gibbons they have to be freely available. It is pushing this a bit to list Prestige Booklets, but they are available from the Philatelic Bureau at face value , and, for all I know, some other major philatelic outlets. On the other hand, generic sheets will, I have heard, only be getting a footnote as to their existence.

These football sheets will no doubt find a ready market with their teams supporters as football memorabilia, but they were never available at cost so will probably never gain more than a footnote in the catalogue, if that.

The other commercially produced stamps for Companies were the Readers Digest m/v strips and the Boots 1st miniature sheet. Both of these were freely available from the Philatelic Bureau at face value and the m/v strips are catalogued. I’m not sure about the Boots 1st miniature sheet.

But with Royal Mail making a hefty loss each year I expect we will see more of these commercially inspired sheets with increasing regularity. It will be up to collectors whether to jump on the band wagon or to ignore them. Colin


 

June 25, 2003 Richard Warren

bubblegum & certificates
Richard B - Thanks for the (A)CW bubblegum card info. $787 for one bubblegum card with cheesey civil war artwork? My God. And I thought stamp collectors were barking mad .. One thing I have noticed here in the UK is that framed sets of cigarette and trade cards for the popular market have now been replaced by framed sets of reproductions (forgeries, I guess) of cig/trade cards. But rarely is this pointed out either on the reverse of the frame or by the seller. Only the ridiculously fresh appearance (and a certain weakness/blurriness in the printing) gives the game away. Quite a good profit for a set of photocopies/scans! Has this sort of thing invaded the US bubblegum card market? Have been hunting for the bubblegum repro Confederate notes I thought I had, but no luck so far. Maybe I trashed them years ago ... Apologies likewise to all for continued no-stamp posting.

As no one responded, I'll repeat the (doubtless naive) question I posted a while ago - if a certificate has no image of the item, how does anyone know that it hasn't been switched to a "wrong" item of the same description? Is the answer to this blindingly obvious? Have I missed something?


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark


Bill C
Considering face value of stamps on sheets is £3.70, and I don't see Royal Mail copyright on sheets, I don't think so.


 

June 25, 2003 12:00 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Royal Mail Site
IOmoon I knew you would get a chuckle from those. Are you going to add them to your Royal Mail site?

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
I found the culprit


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C

According to about 30 web sites, the Royal Mail withdrew Manchester United stamps because users did not know which side to spit on!

I think its some sort of in-joke!!


 

June 25, 2003 10:19 Jim Watson


Knud-Erik,
That's an interesting cover. Hope someone can translate it for us. I think you're on the right track. Note also the Julian-Gregorian dates.


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
????????????????????

Occasions sheet was produced by Royal Mail where you could use your own images.
Border was not made to order though.
I have no idea what that is or who produced it.


 

June 25, 2003 Prometheus

K.E. = Great Letter
Thanks for sharing.


 

June 25, 2003 06:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 


IOmoon ????

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 25, 2003 06.23 Knud-Erik (knuden)


 

Jimbo & all - Hi Jim. nice cover but I'm sorry I cant help you on the route. :O)

Your "Today's dated postal history item" gives me the opportunity to show a folded letter from a collection I have of covers with Prague cancellations.

 

This folded letter was sent from Prague (at that time Austria - now Czech Republic) May 26 - 1854 to Reims in France. The "19" is the rate 19 kreuzer. On the front it has a French border cancel "D'Autrice" from Valnes May 28 and on back a transit cancel from Paris May 28 and a reciever from Reims May 29.

But the most interesting is the contents, which are (I belive) a request for some bottles of Champagne and to avoid misunderstandment the original label was enclosed!!

The Champagne was from the winemaker L. Roederer, which still are making wine. I found on this page this interesting story: " In the 1850’s only the British had developed a taste for dry champagnes and many manufacturers used to add sugar dissolved in brandy to their wines. The amount of sugar depended on the market. The Imperial Russian court liked sweet Champagne, and L. Roederer was favoured by Tsar Alexander II, who used to send his sommelier to L Roederer every year to select the best for the Tsar. To appropriately impress the Tsar Roederer bottled his best in a crystal bottle. It became the standard Champagne of the Russian aristocracy up to 1917."

 

I belive the letter is written in German and is any able to translate it?

 

Now I'm getting thirsty and I think I will get me a .......cup of coffee! :O)


 

 


 

K.E.
 


 


 

June 25, 2003 0609 Prometheus

Question = NOIP
Any one ever heard of "DATZ Philatelic Index "
IF YOU do can you tell me how many years he produced these.
Thanks


 

June 25, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Chile
David B: Thanks!


 

June 25, 2003 Marius


D2 and Io I think I'll go and commit silverside somewhere. Can't take a sporting trick this week. Never mind :-)

Besides I didn't think Qld had a hope of winning so I resigned myself to the loss early.


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Nice job with the centering Jim :-Þ


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


I thought the entirety of Australia was in mourning.
Rugby and tennis haven't been doing too well lately!!


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Lawler


 

 


 

June 25, 2003 Jim Lawler


 

INDYPEX 2003


June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 


June 25, 2003 David Benson


Marius, I hear that Queensland is in mourning, has tomorrow been declared a public holiday for the wake,

p.s. it's not finished yet but I think I know the outcome,

David Benson


 

June 25, 2003 04:02 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a cover with a hotel corner card from Luxembourg to France in 1887.


 

June 25, 2003 David Benson


Mauro, I found this INUTIL on the web, difficult on cover,

INUTIL

David Benson


 

June 25, 2003 David Benson


Mauro, they are a normal cancel, they were shipped by Perkins Bacon with the 1st. issue. There is a local variant inscribed INUTIL which is scarcer.

David Benson


 

June 25, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Chile
Bill S: Have you ever seen any 5cts brown/reddish columbus with a postmark that reads in english "CANCELLED"? have just got a couple in a collection i got and was wondering what they are.
If anyone is interested a full set of images (3.5 mb zip) is HERE
(this particular stamp is on img #53)
Regards

Mauro


 

June 25, 2003 Roo


knuden
No hidden cards here , but then I have also used Signoscope and fluid for many years . When the subject of identifying watermarks using scans came up on Ebay board I jumped in with the info , the rules on that board preclude anything that could be considered promotional , even if it IS providing the latest information on THE SUBJECT open for discussion . I cut and paste to this board without enough thought to the impression that could be drawn (out of context), apologies if it came across as blatant promotion , though I do find using our computers to identify stamps a fascinating prospect and am engrossed . :>)

Roo
 


 

June 25, 2003 00.08 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 


 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

Roo - Why don't you play with open cards and tell us it's you, who are selling the software at Ebay?? :O) 


 

K.E. 
 


 

June 25, 2003 Marius

Brisbane cancel
Coverwiz Although the cancel is out of my collecting period I would agree with David that DELIVERY COUNTER is correct.


 

June 24, 2003 David Benson


coverwiz, Marius (stampmad) is into Brisbane GPO markings. I would presume Delivery Counter but I am only guessing, doubt of any significant value.

David Benson


 

June 24, 2003 22:31:58 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Chile Classics
Mauro, I collect Chile, and have representative samples of many of the Colon heads. I am far from an advanced collection, however...


 

June 24, 2003 Roo <sueco@iinet.net.au> http://www.iinet.net.au/~sueco/
 

Watermarks
NOIP

Over from the other board , thought i'd post it here too in case anyone is interested.
 


Have you seen the software where you can have stencils saved that you select and can put over the scan of the watermark in actual size??.You can have a whole library of watermarks saved digitally , scan the stamp (suggested is 200DPI 100% greyscale) , select the watermark and slide it all over the back of the stamp to match exactly.Obviously sideways , inverted , reversed and even variations can all be included .New stuff Eh , it's up on Ebay .

Roo


 

June 24, 2003 COVERWIZ

SORRY
One more time Brisbane DELIVERY ?


 

June 24, 2003 COVERWIZ

Whoops
HERE - I hope! :Brisbane DELIVERY ? cancel


 

June 24, 2003 20:21 COVERWIZ

Brisbane cancel
D2 or other Aussie experts Can anyone tell me what the full cancel would read: Brisbane DELIVERY ? cancel

Thanks in advance


 

June 24, 2003 7:50PM Bill Weiss

$5.00 Columbian Block
This block was cut from a 1970s B(ureau) of E(ngraving) and P(rinting) card. However, as I recall, the area that had the numerals of value were blank, and this has some sort of "private" overprints in block obliterating that area! Anyway, it's crap, and the bidder who paid $15+ got raped, as the card is cheap and can be bought for under $5.00.
 


June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Auction Shams
Oh, by the way, you can get the final value fees back - report the scammer as a non-paying bidder and follow through after first notice. Then block them from bidding and relist.


 

June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Auction shams
Michael

Go to an eBay page and up to Site Map. There are links on the left side for things like Buyer's Guide - choose that and search on negative feedback - you can probably get those removed as having nothing to do with the auction and retaliatory. And there is a place to report shill bidding on Safe Harbor - or go up to Help at the top of an eBay page and select the link to Contact Us. Give them your information. They may or may not do something.


 

June 24, 2003 7:31 Michael Mathews <diggerprof@msn.com>

Auction Shams
A bidder (leeann4@aol.com) won one of my auctions. The next day I was sent an e-mail stating that they did not like my S and H charge; I wrote back that it was clearly stated and an auction win was a contract and if they didn't follow through, I would report them to ebay. I received an e-mail stating that they did not like being threatened. After no payment, I posted negative feedback, and of course so did they. After a week a check arrived and I sent the stamps.

About a week later, I had bids on nine of my auctions by piddler0_5, a brand new bidder to ebay......they bid more than I thought the stamps were worth, so I contacted the bidder and asked for name and address for mailing, to which I was asked to wait until the last auction they were bidding on was over, and I consented. After all nine auctions were over, I sent an invoice (and heard nothing).
Three days after the last auction was over, piddler left NINE negative feedbacks stating they had not received their stamps, to which I replyed that they had not paid.

I found out that piddler0_5 was another e-mail address for leeann4, AND piddler was also bidding (shill bidding) on his or her own auctions to drive up the price. They (leeann4 and piddler0_5) also have a website at georgesstamps.com. I have their names if anyone is interested.

I have reported this to ebay and requested a rebate on my auction charges. I have heard NOTHING from them. Any suggestions what I should do?

diggerprof@msn.com


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Chuck
I gave up on the zero second snipes, eBay isn't as stable as it used to be. I think at the last count I had twelve, but that was several years ago.

George
email on the way.


 

June 24, 2003 George K


What's BEP?


 

June 24, 2003 Chuck Harm


Jim,

3 seconds - was that a manual snipe? If so quite impressive.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Oh boy, a for real snipe


 

June 24, 2003 6:29 pm Bob in WA

$5 Columbian block
George -- I'm pretty sure that's from a BEP card.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Boy, seems I lost my touch.
One down!
Sorry, its not a stamp, neither is the next one, but it is stamp-related.


 

June 24, 2003 Richard Frajola


George K I don't know what it is, but I know what it ISN"T. It isn't anything produced any time near when the Columbians were made. I would look to some souvenir sheet for a stamp club, a cinderella, or BEP card or something along those lines. I am not up on all that stuff produced in the 20th Century.


 

June 24, 2003 George K

2936447294
Bill W, Richard F, anybody: Can anyone tell me what this is? It looks like a block of 4 of $5 Columbian essays as the face value is missing, but it wasn't in my Scott's Specialized. There doesn't seem to be much interest in it, and the seller (whom I have noted occasionally (and unfavorably) in my strolls down the venue) has it on private auction. Am I missing something?


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark <jlwstark6@aol.com>


george
email me, above.
May take a while to answer, due to snipes.


 

June 24, 2003 4:55 Jim (jaywild) <jfdire@earthlink.net>


Hi Bob in WA... I have dealt with hillsstamps without a problem. From my perspective I'd doubt they were involved in any shill business. Sounds like the bidders were flakes is all.

That Al Yankovic "I bought it on eBay" is hilarious. I especially like this 'discovery'-- "...a kleenex used by Dr. Dre."


 

June 24, 2003 David Benson


Chris, partly my fault as I try to list items from memory without using a catalogue and then double check the catalogue and correct mistakes. Usually only the dates are out slightly but takes a bit of the boring work out listing. Missed the spelling mistake.


Back in about 5 hours,

David Benson


 

June 24, 2003 David Benson


Bob, presume the seller put in for a refund of fees and will relist, see what happens the 2nd. time around,

David Benson


 

June 24, 2003 16:45 stamphick <stamphick@dospalos.org>

changing email addy
Dave.. I recently installed broadband & changed my email address on eBay & PayPal, both without a hitch. Maybe the only change I have made on either site that wasn't a reall hassle.

David


 

June 24, 2003 George K

bid-uperer.......
Jim: I'm afraid you've got me on this one. Other than being a collector of off-beat BOB, I don't see anything suspicious in his buying habits. Can you enlighten me on what you've spotted?


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


bob in WA

I have bought several items from hillstamps, and, though a little slow and apparently muddleheaded, is honest.

If he feels the high bidders have been screwing with him, he has the opportunity, I believe, to offer it as a second chance auction.


 

June 24, 2003 Ed.B

ebay new look
It looks like the UK site is one step ahead of the .com site. All our listing pages have changed to the new format.

Ed


 

June 24, 2003 Bill Longley

Ebay song by Weird Al Yankovic
Here is a sample of the Weird Al song about ebay. Quite funny!!. A certain regular sent me a link to it. I didn't dare post it on ebay chat board.


 

June 24, 2003 4:25 pm Bob in WA

Big shill revisited
If you recall THIS lot, the Egypt to Lebanon postage due cover that was bid to almost $800 at the end by two zero-feedback bidders from Belgium, one of whom registered on eBay the day of auction end, there is a bit more now.

I sent this note to the high bidder a week ago:

Greetings inaagat--
I have a question as an interested bystander in the dramatic bid history of lot 2933547566, the Egypt to Lebanon cover with the postage dues. I collect bridges and found it on a search on "bridge" for the Dog Bridge due stamp, but it quickly ran up to $102, out of my league. Needless to say I was totally surprised at the ending.
I am very curious what gives this cover such exceptional value, and I'd greatly appreciate your comments, just for my own education.
Thank you for your time to read this. Any enlightenment you might provide would be much appreciated.
Kindest regards, Bob Lodge

I received no response, so today I sent this modification to the “underbidder”:

Hello Olguita--
I have a question as an interested bystander in the dramatic bid history of lot 2933547566, the Egypt to Lebanon cover with the postage dues. I collect bridges and found it on a search on "bridge" for the Dog Bridge due stamp, but it quickly ran up to $102, out of my league. Needless to say I was totally surprised at the ending. You must have been very surprised and disappointed to lose with such a high bid.
I am very curious what gives this cover such exceptional value, and I'd greatly appreciate your comments, just for my own education. I sent this same message to the winner a week ago, but he never answered me. I hope that you are more kind.
Thank you for your time to read this. Any enlightenment you might provide would be much appreciated.
Kindest regards, Bob Lodge

I was fully aware, of course, that it was undoubtedly the same person reading it as the previous message. Quite promptly I received this reply:

Hello rcl,
Be sure you are right and you evaluate correctly this item! Even more than I do, as I intended to offer 82.50$ on this item, from an EGYPT collector point of view.
Due to coding problems for my bid- using of commas or points before the cents- on the Ebay sites in USA and EUROPE, I got nervous and finally registered a 782.50$ bid. I intended to put a demand for annulation for this bid, which was finally and luckily superseded .I suppose the vendor must be very happy!
Regards from Belgium,
OLGUITA.


This response is patently false on a number of points. The minimum bid had sat at $102 all week, long before Olguita even registered on eBay, so he never could have contemplated an $82.50 bid. Although he was underbidder, he was the LAST bidder, therefore he would have received a “you have been outbid!” as soon as he made his bid. So what’s this about intending to annul his bid, which he states was “finally superseded”? And finally, he said not one word about what was supposed to make it so valuable!

Note that recently the “high bidder” has received a neg from the seller, for non-communication. The seller, Hillsstamps, indicated displeasure with the high bidder. Do you think this is just an act, to cover a shill, or are the two high bidders acting on their own to thwart a sale, unbidden by the seller. Does anybody know this seller? I wonder what response the LEGITIMATE underbidder, Yasser, would get if he approached the seller in an attempt to buy the cover.
 


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Oh boy, got some snipes lined up for tonight.
First time in a long while.
I wonder if I've forgotten how to do it? :-Þ

In the meanwhile, seeing as desks seem to be in fashion,
my (when its not raining) outdoor desk.


 

June 24, 2003 David Benson


Chris, thanks, spelling corrected,

David Benson


 

June 24, 2003 Now Chris

Typo?
D2 I think you have a minor typo in the title of your
Egypt 1923 auction. I think the King's name is "Fuad".

Chris - Fuad was a tough SOB, but his son Farouk was a weeny head
guess which one was overthrown.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


George
The bid-uperer has an interesting bidding history, to say the least.


 

June 24, 2003 3:25PM Bill Weiss

EBAY/APS
Just had some time to read some postings and have seen what's been written about the Linn's story about APS/Ebay. It will be interesting to see what comes of this, if anything. For my part, I just filed a complaint with APS against the guy who blocked my bidding and would not give a reason despite 3 separate emails asking him why. I will now be curious to see if and how APS handles this as the guy is a longtime APS member, thus must subscribe and abide by the APS Code of Ethics. Obviously, to abide by a code of ethic that requires honesty and fair play is not anything that ebay involves itself with, their primary objective being to merely collect fees for acting as a venue for buyers/sellers, but if APS has the guts to start ruling against members who do not conduct themselves in a fair and proper way on ebay, then we might get somewhere.


 

June 24, 2003 George K

inverted jenny
And for my last comments for now on this issue, I would like to say that this is exactly the same technique that all the crooks on eBay use, and probably the same one used since fraud was invented, oh, say, about the time that one proto-humanoid australopithecus convinced another one that the brown banana was actually a rare food with medicinal qualities, and charged 5 yellow bananas for it.

pcheltenham/schuylerac/32gyt78, dm, riny, addie - they all hold out the possibility that just maybe you could perhaps almost be getting a bargain, because the sellers aren't sure (hogwash). Call it greed, or the thrill of finding treasure, or hoping against hope, but the buyers are exhibiting what appears to be a fundamental attribute of the human condition. I blame this on the CROOKS, not on the buyers. They are taking advantage of this situation the same way that snake oil salesmen hold out their worthless product as the way to save a dying family member, or gypsies will take all your money to get you in touch with the family member AFTER the snake oil fails. The huckster is the one at fault because THEY lack a sense of honor or conscience.

That's my moralizing for today.


 

June 24, 2003 Brian R

C3a?
O.K., you guys are starting to obsess over that thing, whatever it may be. IMHO, anyone stupid enough to bid above a couple of bucks for that as a novelty, has crossed the line into deserving to lose their money. How about focusing this boards collective ability, to annoy a seller, on those who are attemping to swindle people who haven't had a lobotomy?


 

June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>

inverted jenny
George K.:Sorry, didn't see that. (Or just didn't sink in, as I read it earlier). Right, must just be a total flake. I was just looking at some of the stuff he buys and sells. I guess I need to cover my trash container to ensure some of my trash doesn't show up for sale.


 

June 24, 2003 George K

inverted jenny
Victor: Please read my post just below yours. It is one thing to say that this seller may not have a clue, but I gave him a BIG clue;"...if genuine would be worth approximately $100,000". That was TWO DAYS AGO and he let the auction proceed to its $82 conclusion anyway. It seems quite evident that this seller, if clueless, must also be brainless. If not clueless, then ethicsless at best.


 

June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>

inverted jenny
I'm not sure on the seller of that stamp. If you look at his/her past purchases, it leaves more questions than answers. In one lot, he (?) suggests he only collects US stamps, but in the jenny lot, he sounds as if he is foreign to stamp collecting altogether. I suspect the only one to blame for the sale is the buyer. Looking at all of the junk he buys and sells, that particular seller may actually not have a clue. It wouldn't surprise me if the items for sale come out of a dumpster somewhere.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Its simple, potential buyers are either the dumbest suckers ever born or are shilling.


 

June 24, 2003 George K

Inverted Jenny
Bill C, Bob, Spain:

The questions I asked him yesterday were:


"This stamp if genuine would be worth approximately $100,000. Now why in the world would you take a chance of selling it like this - why not get it expertized, sell it at a real auction, and spend the next year in Tahiti?

Or do you have some reason to suspect it might not be real? Like, since yours is red and GREEN, and the real one is red and BLUE?

Funny how your digital camera broke down just in time for this one, isn't it?"

Strange. If I knew very little about an object, and someone told me it might be worth 100K, I would RUN down to the local expert and find out for sure, not offer it with a starting price of a buck.
 


 

June 24, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Chile Classics
Any one around is interested/collects Chile classic stamps/postal history?
Regards

Mauro


 

June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Bob - I think if I asked a question it would be "If this is a sample picture, does this mean you have more than one of these, are you making them?"


 

June 24, 2003 11:49 Bob in WA

inverted jenny
I sent the seller this message yesterday. Haven't heard back from him yet.

I don't understand what you mean by "picture is a sample picture". Where did you get the sample image? Is the stamp you are offering the same centering with even margins all around? Does it have gum on the back? Has it been hinged? Are there any faults such as small thins or creases? Is it on stamp paper, as opposed to a heavier card stock? Is it the same size as an issued stamp, rather than oversize as many of these reproductions are? Does it appear to be an engraved printing, as opposed to some photo process? (Can you see tiny dots or halftones with a magnifying glass?) Sorry to hit you with such a barrage of questions, but you left them out of the description.


 

June 24, 2003 11:22 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

"Inverted Jenny"
Colin It takes two, as the song goes.


 

June 24, 2003 11.15 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
 

"Inverted Jenny"
That “Inverted Jenny”

Now nearly $75! And what a bid history!

Do they think it is real I wonder?

Colin


 

June 24, 2003 11:03 Jim Watson


Guillame,
Thanks so much for the complete translation! I've updated the page again along with adding a link to Nørby's site and cleaning up my discussion of the date differences. I also added some notes on the geometric killers based on your information.

BTW, it's raining cats, dogs, assorted wildfowl, and occasional alligator here.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
Looks like an out of focus bulldog with a piece of paper stuck to its nose, hiding behind a ventilation duct!!


 

June 24, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)


NOIP


Have finally decided to join the 21st century and connect to bradband - should be about 7th of next month. In theory (and for the tax man) it is for my business, but it will certainly improve the Ebay experience. As the result of this, and getting a new business domain etc I shall be changing my email addy for both Ebay and Paypal. Can those who have had experience of this tell me if I am likely to run into any problems with either of them?


 

June 24, 2003 9:40AM Bill Weiss <wrw43@rcn.com>

I'M BACK!
After a few days off we now have a new server for our computer and my access speed has increased 100-fold. It used to take me 3 minutes to confirm an ebay bid and it's now 3 seconds! Anyway, I haven't read anything on our boards for a few days and won't until later this evening, but I just wanted to check in.


 

June 24, 2003 08:54 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)  (350) Star about me  http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Scan of the day
IOmoon Why Bother?


 

June 24, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

NIP ( Nothing in particular)
Morning all, from an already hot, sunny Baltimore.

Jim - the booklet arrived safely today. Many thanks !!

Mark.


 

June 24, 2003 8:12 Jim Gaul (hungaryjim) <terrynjim@enter.net>

APS/eBay
Hi All: Just finished catching up with the board and want to thank nomad55 for sharing the Linns article referred to in last nights post. I will try and find out more information when I attend the general meeting of APS at StampShow in August! I'll also be receiving a certificate for being a 25 year member and I'm proud of it! Jimbo2


 

June 24, 2003 Guillaume


IO: Thank you for the nice compliment. I am indeed more than six hours ahead of you, but I am barely conscious (slept two hours last night) and spent fifteen minutes editing my post. So, like in sports, do not despair. You can always beat a pro when he has an off-day!


 

June 24, 2003 Guillaume


Jimbo Now that I have some spare time though, not enough :-), I can add that the geometric cancels served a very particular purpose. Even if the number in the middle of the cancel was unreadable, you would still know the town post sub-office by looking at the distinct shape within the oval. These shapes can be a big square touching the outer circle (sub-office nr 1), a smaller rounded square (2), a triangle touching the circle (3), a cross (4), a star of David (5), a diamond with curved lines (6), etc... up to number 9 and the additional numbers 13 and 14. Then you have the same principle but with Roman style numbers: XI, XV, XVI, XVII, XXXI (two types).


 

June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

A little more on the CW gum cards
Richard - I've noticed here on ebay, lot's of these cars listed, but none of the notes. I also notice that there are quite a few sellers in the UK selling them. The UK sellers are advertising them as A&BC gum, and the US sellers advertise them as Topps. Same set, but I suspect A&BC Gum is the British counterpart of Topps. Sort of like O-Pee-Chee is the Canadian counterpart. So you were right, it's just that my catalog only lists U.S. cards.

HERE is an example of how values have seem to have gotten out of hand on them. It's also a good example why sellers like to sell professionally "graded" cards. At those prices, just think how much an 88 card set would cost.

All - Sorry for the continued non-stamp post.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo
My excuses - Kiompie is a pro & he's been awake at least six hours longer than me!!! :-Þ


 

June 24, 2003 Guillaume van Turnhout (kiompie)


Jimbo: I have just posted a summary of your Russian card on the eBay board. We do not know what the case is about, the French word "votre honorée" in the first line after "
Monsieur" is just a very polite way of saying "your letter". So, to add to Io's translation:


Sir, in answer to your letter of June 25th (note: Julian Calendar) concerning the Napiersky case, I have the honor to inform you that Mr Nedzwedzky, lawyer, who is conducting this case,is not in Saint Petersburg for the moment. He will be back within one week and will then answer your letter. Please, Sir, accept the assurance of my distinguished consideration. D. Blagovetchensky" (last sentence is a literal translation, just fill in the standard formal English equivalent).
 


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Watson


Gads! Turn off the bold, jimbo.</b>


 

June 24, 2003 07:35 Jim Watson


Io,

Yeah, I thought his translation seemed a little closer so I've updated the page again reflecting a somewhat majority vote on the content. (Kiompie and I comprised a majority vote! :-) )


 

June 24, 2003 Chuck Harm


Jim,

I probably should have mentioned that I had a bootleg copy from the Hong Kong software malls. Probably cost me about $6US and I overpaid because I am a Westerner.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo
Kiompie's is better.


 

June 24, 2003 Brian R

selling at multiples of catalog
Bob H.I suppose I shouldn't point this out (might give some of the sellers here some ideas, thus increasing my buying costs), but that seller has over 3000 feedback! I looked at some of his other auctions, and was just as astonished (no, shocked!!) at what kind of prices he's asking. I can't believe that he's found that many suckers willing to pay multiples of catalog for common items. At those rates, I figure he will only need to sell one out of every fifty items, to cover the listing fees. If it wasn't for the common items involved, I'd speculate this was an attempt by some auction house, to buy cheap publicity (i.e. if the item actually sold---all the better, a.k.a the Mystic Stamp Co. method)

Maybe, instead of deriding him, we sould present him a plaque, or something, for good marketing.


 

June 24, 2003 07:04 Jim Watson


Io,
Thanks for the quickie translation. I've paraphrased the essence and updated the page. I think the habit of 'stiffing' bills from tradesmen and professional has long standing with some of the aristocracy. Locally, a prominent developer who does things like chairing the Jeb Bush campaign finance committee and being co-chair of the George Bush inagural party regularly delays payments to local service providers by 90 days or more. There's little they can do as he is one of the biggest games in town.


 

June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>

General
Good

Morning

All, from sunny, hot Dallas.

Thanks to all who mmade suggestions for dealers/shops in NYC. It was productive at Champion Stamps and Stampazine.


 

June 24, 2003 0652 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>

My 23 june
A nice clear dark FLAG on this Railroad Advert Postcard June 23rd 1909 Bloomington, Ill.
Here is Other side WhirlPoolRapids


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Chuck

Did a quick google search for "twinbridge". Seems they want about $300 for it.
Think I'll stick with the old fashioned way for the moment.


 

June 24, 2003 06:37 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

The annoying small stamps of Colombia
Chris What about the Giant Cover Sized stamps of Colombia?

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 24, 2003 Now Chris

My toes hurt
Last night I kicked an 8lb hand weight with my bare foot.
The toes involved are still quite unhappy.
Doesn't feel like anything broke (lotsa experience with broken toes and fingers)
but good and bruised.
Next incarnation I am going to be Iron Man.

Chris - I am Iiiiiiiiiiiurrrrrrrrrrrn Maaaaaan (Black Sabbath)


 

June 24, 2003 Now Chris abplanalp.com
 

The annoying small stamps of Colombia
I find myself confronted with a pile of those annoying small stamps of Colombia.
(For those unfamiliar with them, they are about 1cm high by 2cms wide.)
These are my least favorite Colombian stamps to catalog and I am contemplating
just putting them in my nickel sales envelope. Would that be wrong?

Chris


 

June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Hmmmmm
Brian,

Case in point - 2936892715. This "match and medicine" stamp catalogs $10 unless it doubled in catalog value in the last year. Our marketer starts it at $20.


 

June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo

I'm missing some key words, but the gist is this:

"Messieur, in respect of your fees of June 25th concerning the affairs of Napierlay, I have the honor to let you know that she (has appointed an) advocate (Attorney-at-law) who is looking after this affair. It is not to (at St.Petersburg ?) for the moment.It will be of ******* and we will respond to your letter. ***** messieur, the assurance of your distinguished consideration." D. Blagovetshensky

In english, "tough luck bud, you'll have to wait for your money."


 

June 24, 2003 Richard Warren

expensive bubblegum
Richard B - Blimey!!! I'd better see if I really do still have any tucked away. "TCG" sounds right enough to me - I'm sure we're talking about the same thing.


 

June 24, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)


Goodmorning! The sun is out in Massachusetts!!!

I want to retract my comment on the APS/ebay. I really don't know enough about anything to be commenting. I made the judgement on seeing so many of you good people narued or silenced by the big E. I have a general mistrust of their motives .

 


 

June 24, 2003 04:33 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>

Indypex
 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 


 

June 24, 2003 04:16 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a postal card from Russia to France in 1898. It seems to have some confusion over the date - Gregorian and Julian.

BTW, Here is a cover from the target=blank>last Trans-Atlantic flight of the DO-X from Newfoundland to Germany as noted yesterday.


 

June 24, 2003 00.02 Knud-Erik (knuden)


 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

K.E. 
 


 

June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen Sandafayre selling an obvious forgery as genuine, at least in Spanish stamps.


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

Civil War gum cards
Richard S. - I saw a couple posts regarding these and thought I'd check in my Non-Sports Card catalog to see if there's anything on them. I don't see anything listed for an ABC gum company. I'm wondering if what you thought was ABC was actually T.C.G? This was what the Topps Chewing Gum Co. use to put on the backs of their cards, where the copyright info was.

I did find a set called Civil War News, from 1962. The set contained 88 cards and there were 17 different Confederate notes you could get. Are they collectible? In short, yes. The cards are valued between $4-5 a piece, depending on condition, and between $420-525 for the set. The currency is valued at $5-6 each and $110-135 for the set of 17. But, here's the real kicker. The wrappers by themselves are valued at $200-250 each, depending on if it was a 1 cent or 5 cent wrapper. And the empty display box is valued at $400. Now mind you, my catalog is a bit outdated, from 1992, so no telling what 11 years has done t othe value. Sorry though, the gum would still be worthless today.


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R

aps/ebay
Richard I'll wait to see just what, if anything, results before I'll start damning either party. If the APS only performs the duty of informing ebay, who the rotten sellers are (presumablely for free publicity?), to give ebay a reason to justify their banishment,(so the pinheads can keep claiming "just a venue") it'll be an great leap forward. There's a couple still operating that are so blatent (we all know who they are here), that they deserve an instant NARU. As for liability insurance, do you really think those sellers want their activities displayed inside a court of law? I'd think they'd just slink away.


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R

The new eku for a US #26
Bob HThank you! I almost added a question to my post, about just what in the world, makes the seller think that cover, is worth anything near $35. I didn't 'cause I was afraid of sounding stupid( i.e. maybe he just mistyped 1857 and there is some other reason). Turns out, with that auction, that there is a degree of stupidity involved. LOL


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola


Brian Everything was tentative when I last heard - and said that I didn't want to sign their confidentiality agreement or participate. I think that the general idea was that ebay would forward complains received from their "neighbourhood watchers" along to APS. Then, APS was supposed to determine if the sellers were in fact "bad apples" and, if so, would somehow try to get them to mend their evil ways. It is presumed that after some point, after APS wrist slapping proved ineffectual, that ebay might take some action against seller.

As far as I am concerned, the idea sounds like a way for ebay to pass along blame and ineffective "management" of the problem onto APS shoulders. Should make great press.

PS - I never heard anything about money actually being paid out by ebay to anybody. The watchers were expected to do it for nothing. Maybe ebay will pay the APS liability insurance premium that they will need ...

 


 

June 23, 2003 19:43:24 Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Here's another...
One that brings up questions... These show three different inking stages (I probably should rescan at a higher resolution) on the common 1 piaster of 1908. The rightmost example is typical, with a completely solid background behind the numerals. The leftmost one has distinct horizontal stripes behind the numerals. The middle one is an intermediate. Was it common to use a striped pattern, then overink to get a solid background? Or was the background recut after a while when overinking showed up as a problem? It might make a good 1 page exhibit, no way could I stretch it to a whole frame. :-)


 

June 23, 2003 19:42 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Stamp Category Changes on eBay
Did anyone see the proposed new stamp catagories here:
 

http://pages.ebay.com/catpreview/stamps.html
 

I posted this on the threaded board but put it here for all stamp chat people to see.
 

I was searching eBay Germany and say many interesting and useful categories. They also have many more layers of categories. Why can't the US stamp categories be as useful as eBay Germany?
 

Here are a few examples
 

http://listings.ebay.de/aw/plistings/list/category7826/index.html?from=R4
 

Notice the subcategories
 

http://listings.ebay.de/pool2/plistings/list/all/category40358/index.html?from=R4
 

and more sub categories.
 

http://listings.ebay.de/pool2/plistings/list/all/category35263/index.html?from=R4
 

Why can't the US categories match the other eBay sites and have such deep usefulness?
 

I see that eBay Germany is finally taking off.
 

The richness and depth of categories helps.
 

What is more important in an international community is that searches find all the items. This is not possible if the categories are very different between the sites. eBay must merge the categories so searches produce worldwide results from worldwide sellers.
 

eBay US should talk to the people who organized the eBay Germany stamp categories and apply that inspiration to the US site.


 


 

June 23, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Hmmmmm
briguy,

I hope that seller never has anything I want. He has no clue about condition and starts over catalog for anything not visibly damaged. Posts a lot of lots and never seems to have many bids - wonder why not? (sour grapes post)


 

June 23, 2003 19:36:58 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Good deals
David, if the overprints are forged, they're easily the best I've ever seen. The 5 piaster is cataloged by Burak, but only in blue. This color is scarcer than either blue or gray, but only because I believe it was an intermediate printed when they switched colors. I have one of the regular stamps in the color too...

On the 25 piaster, I don't know if the perf varieties on these issues were dependent on a specific print run or whether they just had multiple perforating machines, and one or two were setup differently than the others. If dependent ona print run, then these would be very, very rare, because you'd have to have ended up with surplus from more than just the last printing. If scattered throughout the printings, then it shouldn't be all that unusual, it's just that people don't typically check perfs... I've asked some questions, trying to get a handle on how the perf varieties were created, which might give me better info on how rare this puppy really is. Again, it's overprint is awfully good if forged; surprising as well, since the stamp has such low catalog.


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R

aps/ebay
Richard Can you elaborate? Could it result in someone with a lick of philatelic knowledge being given some power to enforce some standards in the catagories?

Awwww, what am I thinking!? Even the most blatent fraud, means more final value fees, and ebay sold its soul a long time ago.


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


About the only power that I can see APS having regarding eBay auctions would be to reprimand any members who were caught doing untoward business.

It would seem, however, that the majority of the flagrant offenders are not APS members.


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola

Ebay + APS
I think several of the board participants here were approached by eBay in regards to their "Neighbourhood Watch" initiative. I declined to participate and believe a couple others did as well. My reason to decline was primarily because I saw it as an ebay marketing scheme that transfers responsibility and enforcement for stamp fraud on ebay to APS without any real power to do anything.

I do hope APS can assist but think it is a no win situation for the APS.


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola


Laurel Thank you for clarification. I have examples of whirling logs on Navajo weavings including the rug here. I just never heard of them associated with Hopi.

Someplace around here I have an old booklet (ca. 1900) on symbols found on ancient coins and artifacts. The swastika and its variant sun symbols, do show up frequently well into BC period.


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Lawler


 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.

:8^)

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 


 

June 23, 2003 19:04 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Tunis
D2 Gee. They even reach Tunis

Forgery Identification Site
 


 

June 23, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)


Jim Gaul The article says " APS & Ebay are discussing a partnership....designed to boost publicity for and increase membership in the APS " and to hobble any integrity the APS might have for ebay
 


 

June 23, 2003 nomad55


A&S....quoted directly from Linns June 30th issue, page 3.

The American Philatelic Society and the internet auction house ebay are holding preliminary discussions that could result in a partnership designed to boost publicity for and increase membership in the APS, Linns learned in mid-June from a retail dealer. Janet Klug, chairman of the APS board and president-elect of the APS, confirmed for Linns that the APS board of directors learned of the negotiations in early May. Klug did not provide Linns with any specifics regarding how a potential agreement between the two organizations might benefit ebay. “This proposal is very interesting and exciting but I can’t discuss specifics until the legal implications and financial arrangements have been settled”, Klug said.

-------------------------------------------------

So, are we to expect APS pop up ads whenever we look at a listing?
"financial arrangements' - sounds scary. APS members, watch your pocketbooks. ebay does nothing for free.
So here it is almost the end of June, and the APS board has known since early May. The rest of the world finds out via a piece in Linns. Why be so secretive?
 


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R (briguy)

Hmmmmmm
Here's a seller whose "estimate" is juuuuust a little off


 

June 23, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)


Richard Frajola Would you settle for Navajo ? called twirling logs there were more obvious examples of it in this book, but I lost my place and patience. If you flip around in the book there are lots of nice examples of weaving without it too. Also this book = The Swastika Symbol in Navajo Textiles by Dennis J. Aigner. DAI Press, Laguna Beach, California, 2000. I wanted to say I love your site. Been lurking in there very regularly for 3? mths. ahh I confessed!

 


 

June 23, 2003 David Benson


Bill, can't see the 25pi., the other looks OK but I can't explain the perf. variation. Most probably OK and not a Turkey, (pardon the pun) but would have to be certified if you want it to get listed (but I have a feeling that it will come back as a fake overprint).

David Benson


 

June 23, 2003 George K

Almost Pregnant
Bill C: No, it's more like "almost unaltered", or "only somewhat reperfed", or "more-or-less original gum", and my favorite, "perhaps maybe could possibly be genuine (mostly)".


 

June 23, 2003 17:34 Jim Gaul <(hungaryjim)>


nomad55 I let my online subscription to Linns lapse. Care to share what you read about the APS? Jimbo2


 

June 23, 2003 17:26 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Inverted Jenny
George These Inverted Jennys never go away. The frame is inverted on this one.


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Papier mache???


 

June 23, 2003 17:07 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Worht Soaking?
IOmoon What would I be left with if I Soaked THESE? ;-)


 

June 23, 2003 16:42:25 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Good deals
It looks as if I've come out better than expected in some trading I did earlier in the year... This is an example of the 1917 PTT overprint on the 1869 perf 13½ 5 piastre blue, unlisted in any catalog I've been able to find, and with the scarcer yet grayish blue color. The full blue version is listed in Burak at 1,000,000 Lira (1974 values), about 33,000 times the price of the base stamp. I have only seen one other, and it was the full blue instead of grayish. This is an example of the 1916 overprint on the 25 piastre of 1908. It's not too awful expensive (Scott catalog is $15.00), but it's only know perf 12. This one has compound perfs at 13½x12. It's not shown in any catalogs, and my best source for Turkey answers pretty much just said "Will you trade it with me?". :-)


 

June 23, 2003 16:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Almost Pregnant
George Is Almost Imperforate Between like being Almost Pregnant?

Forgery Identification Site
 


 

June 23, 2003 Prometheus

Bill Clad = Thanks
Tremendous Link there thanks for sharing that great link.
Thanks


 

June 23, 2003 nomad55


Anyone else see the blurb on the bottom of page 3 of the recent Linns? Just reinforces my decision many years ago to never join APS.


 

June 23, 2003 15:26 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Penguins
Linux is only my second choice, but Solaris (Sun) isn't really something for the consumer market so getting a scanner or digicam connected would be hard at best. No, I haven't started collecting penguins on stamps...
 


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R

seconds
Laurel & George K You may both rest easy. There is no shortage of damaged seconds out there. If fact, my US classics album, could accurately be labeled a philatelic freak show!

I'm doing my best to preserve one sorry example of each for posterity.


June 23, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

just too tired
Sorry but last post was TO bjorn but instead of my name used his ... SORRY!


 

June 23, 2003 Bjorn Munch

Penguins
Dear Bjorn, Micro$oft free means only TUX (and or other flavours)around your computers?
Regards
Mauro (Sorry too for non philatelic post)


 

June 23, 2003 200 Michael Morkin <hobbes9324@aol.com>

old swastikas
On this previously mentioned topic, my wife and I just got back from a cruise and in a small but interesting museum in Santorini, there were dozens of pots and amphora dug up from (I believe) Thera, each with multiple swastikas in the decoration design - so its been around for a looooooooooooooooong time...


 

June 23, 2003 Bob Hohertz

Tobacco Tinfoil Taxpaid Collection
Tinfoils are attractive and 'exotic' things to collect, but a bear to store and mount for exhibition (have seen it done once, so it obviously can be done..) I had a bunch but sold most of them a few years back. There are paper counterparts as well from 1878, the source of the Spanish American War imprints for revenue stamped paper. These are NOT common.


 

June 23, 2003 13:25 Bjorn Munch


Micro$oft, not Miscro$oft (sorry I've just had a few beers...)
 


 

June 23, 2003 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Messy desk (sort of)
Jim, I did use vi as late as yesterday, to change the time in a crontab file for a server at work, from home. Booting up emacs takes too long. BTW, I've long since declared my apartment as a Miscro$oft free zone. :-)
 


Sorry about the technical and no-philatelic post...
 


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola


Richard W I wouldn't trust any American based auction house to know the "peacock" overprints. Most however wouldn't bother to run them without some good reason to believe they were genuine. Some houses will run anything that comes in the door - it would seem that Apfelbaum may well be one of them.


 

June 23, 2003 Richard W.


Damn. Sorry, excuse the bold.


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Warren

bubblegum
Dave P - Hey, I remember fondly those bubblegum packets with Confederate notes in. I may still have one or two of the notes tucked away somewhere - they maybe have some small collector value these days? The gum company was called ABC, I think, and each packet also contained a luridly coloured card showing a scene from the civil war. Every battle scene included plenty of gore - soldiers bloodily impaled on bayonets, severed limbs etc. The gum, as I remember from 40 years ago, tasted awful.

Going back to certificates, I've come across duplicate items being offered on Ebay, but with one certificate between them. In response to my query, the seller advises that the original cert goes with the first item, and photocopies of it (!!) with the others, even though the certs are for one item only. This is, of course, very naughty - and unnecessary, as well, as it happens, as the items are obviously good. But my question is - if there is no photograph indelibly attached to a certificate (these are BPA, 1979, and in any case, the certs are for full sheets), how does one prevent anybody from switching the cert from a good item to a bad one?

And a final musing - I don't bid at many auctions, but I'm aware of Earl Apfelbaum Inc as a significant name, so I had a browse recently through their Burma lots. How come such a prestigious name is offering so many blatant forgeries of Burma JO peacock overprints at $150 each? These overprints are difficult sometimes, and I've been fooled myself, but these particular examples are so wrong that I am 300% confident in my opinion, and a blind man on a galloping horse, as the saying goes, would agree with me on this. Just wondered ...


 

June 23, 2003 George K

Another "Inverted flying jenny stamp NR" (2935629597)
"Here is a stamp that I got from a collector a while back I dont (sic) know anything about the stamp but figured that someone might be interested in it. It is a 24 cent stamp with red and GREEN (emphasis mine) and the airplane is printed on upside down. Item is being sold as is there are no garentees (sic) bidding is done at ones own risk. Shipping is .37 or send a SASE. I would recommend insurance for $1.40, but that is up to you just let me know when auction ends.
Thanks and good luck on your bidding. Picture is a sample picture not actual stamp because my digital camera broke. (oops!)"

Oops indeed. I sent him an email expressing a wee tiny bit of skepticism about his "jenny", and the rather monumental coincidence about the timeliness of his camera problems. Anyone else wants to jump in feel free. And he actually has 13 bids for a whopping $27 whole dollars (USD) already too. Fools rush in......

 


 

June 23, 2003 George K

"...a shortage of low value, damaged stamps..."
Laurel (laura598):

Don't worry. If there is any such shortage it won't be due to you. It will be because Greg St....er, pcheltenham has bought them all up on the eMonster and transmorgrified them into pristine, Post Office fresh beauties. If I were you, I would hang on to those damaged stamps, they may bring a premium over altered genuine someday.

Seriously, con artists have been "improving", "enhancing" and "upgrading" damaged stuff since at least when it first started getting damaged about 163 years ago. In the past 16 months, I have personally witnessed vast quantities of damaged being purchased and transformed. I am really surprised there are are any damaged LEFT by now.


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Messy Desk
Bjorn, ah well, and I had such hopes for you, too...
 

I develop at a PC shop, but my co-workers say I've got the most UNIX-looking PC they've ever seen. I use vim within cygwin to develop. I even mapped my CAPS-lock key to CTRL. I've tried to get the company to migrate to UNIX, but no luck so far.
 

Jim


 

June 23, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)

CSA
Brian


It is not just the stamps that fooled people. Some years ago a company in the UK gave away reproductions of confederate notes with bubblegum. We used to get people trying to change tham at the international bank I then worked for ........

Never underestimate the gullibility/stupidity of the public!


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola


I have sold a fair amount of CSA bogus and forgeries (over $10,000 worth in the last year alone). As a general guide - SA Taylor products sell for around $12.50 each except the rare ones (overprinted papers, etc which bring more than $25). Upham products around $10 each and those after Moen designs closer to $20 or more. The "common" older ones fetch at least $7.50.
 


 

June 23, 2003 10:07 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Tobacco Tinfiol Taxpaid Collection
WOW! I just got my Nutmeg catalog in the mail and saw the Tolman Tobacco Tinfiol Taxpaid Collection and was floored! Even though I could never afford them, boy are they interesting. Take a look and make a comment.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 23, 2003 Brian R

csa's
Johnathan Claghorn isn't yanking your chain, CSA collectors will pay good money for known fakes (although i'm not one of em). Normally, this involves the older "bogus" issues (never really existed) and the homemade attempts, like your woodcut versions of the #6, and the N.O. provisional. Modern fakery is viewed with disdain and doesn't sell. In the last half of the 19th century, many collectors, especially WorldWide, had no idea what confederate stamps looked like, and thus many of the attempts were successful. Your "blockade postage" issue is one of the more famous. Check out these current auctions, 2936040950, 2936040474, 2936030136. Each is an example close to what you have. If you add up similar start prices for what you showed us, you're already well over $100. Nice find

However, if your planning to ebay them, please refer to the altered plate stamps as such or as private issues. Personally, I think that sellers that call them "trial proofs" or "essays", are being intentionally deceptive.


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
I have to admit, I would never have found "Iroonian Islands".


 

June 23, 2003 Laurel (laura598)

Richard F.
Will do! I will locate all reference I can and get back to you. I am no expert on American Indian artifacts so I will definately defer to you knowledge . One course I took, we followed various symbols etc through art the Swastika was one of them.


 

June 23, 2003 06:37 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 


IOmoon Did you catch the IROONIAN ISLANDS in your search?
 

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 23, 2003 06:29 Jim Watson


Paul,
Nice panoramas! Makes a nice way to show the scenery.

Io,
Who's that guy in front of the lion? ;-)


 

June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola


Laurel I would welcome learning of any reference you might have for the use of the swastika by the Hopi. I have collected Hopi weavings and cultural products for many years and have never heard of the use of that symbol. Thanks.


 

June 23, 2003 06:25 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a picture postcard from Columbia in 1932. It has a picture of the DO-X and SCADTA cancels.

I'm running late today after 8 inches of rain this weekend. . . It is still raining. . . Now just how long is a cubit?
 


 

June 23, 2003 06.51 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 


 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

Svieiki! - Hi Paul. Nice pictures!! I used to live in Hvidovre so I think I know the beach even if the looks a bit different. :O)


 

K.E. 
 


 

June 23, 2003 05:26 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Corner Letters
IOmoon I love these Corner Letters

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 23, 2003 Laurel (laura598)


Good morninng all! I predict a shortage of low value, damaged stamps. I believe I have cornered the market.

The swastika was used in the U.S. on the shoulder patches of the 45th division during WW1. The reverse swastika,( the arms going in reverse ) can be found in art, temples,mosaics, and jewelry of India preceding 100 bc. Sort of simplified mandala or sun sign. I believe it was used in Hopi weavings, pre-dating tourists or traders. The symbol itself being very geometric lends itself to weaving and mosaics. If memory serves me correctly, I saw in the mosaics of Saint Marks,Basillica Venice 1200. I have some memory of it being used by the masonics but my memory and that reference source have been hi-jacked by my daughters.
 


 

June 23, 2003 sveiki!


Paul B. Sheryll envisioned this promising spam e-mail sent out by a Florida based businessmann concerning working from home. {:o)


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Thanks Chuck, I'll do some googling later today and see if its still out there.

Northern Paul, nice pictures, here's one of the English Countryside, more specifically "the white lion of Bedforshire" (and me).


 

June 23, 2003 Chuck Harm


Jim,

I used to have some software called TwinBridge which supported romaji to Kanji interchange in Japanese and pinyin to character interchange in Chinese (both simplified and traditional and mainland and Taiwan coding schemes). It also supported a variety of other scripts - Russian, Greek, etc. I am not sure if it is still available but might be useful.

The same sun is shining in Jersey this morning although I had some trouble recognizing it.


 

June 23, 2003 5.02am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Sheryll was that a sewing machine I spied on your first desk photo - you weren't doing a bit of clandestine rouletting ,were you?
 

Paul


 

June 23, 2003 sveiki!

A clean desk is a sign of ?!
Sheryll So, the desk was too big for the shredder? *hehe* {;o)


 

June 23, 2003 sveiki!

Beach Photo Shoot
Another little photo safari. {:o)
Yesterday wifey and I went to the beach located just 10 minutes drive from here. Shot some photos of the Baltic Sea seen from our side of the shores.
Two of the photos are a bit blurry - it's not that easy to auto focus when only the sea shore and the sea is at sight. {:o)

Priecigus Janu un Ligo Svetkus! {:o)


 

June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Gód dæg eall.

Spent the better part of yesterday evening downloading IE upgrade for Japanese script. I must admit it was worth it.

Chuck
I must admit my greatest problems are in translating Japanese script into the acceptable form of English. As an example, the characters for "big mountain" translate as Dashan from the Chinese and Daisen from Japanese.

And the sun is actually shining in Scarsdale this morning.


 

June 23, 2003 4:50am Sheryll <sheryll@sheryll.net> http://www.sheryll.net/
 

A clean desk is a sign of........
b>sveiki! - Watch you don't do overboard when shredding. My stamp desk turned from this to this after a mid-summer blitz.......

Sheryll


 

June 23, 2003 4.45am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com>


I have just read the day's offerings on both Boards. In about 21 hours or so since I went to bed last night, there have been only 36 posts on this Board and 29 on the eBay Chat Board (and a few the same). There must have been many other interesting things to do for those regulars who were conspicuous by their absence from both boards. Mind you, although not a regular poster, I can't really speak, as I did not come on to the Board until a hour or so ago. And I had to recalculate the numbers of posts because I had a long telephone conversation with Sheryll before sending this off.
 

Paul ps Sheryll was threatening to post tonight on one of the boards.


 

June 23, 2003 4:43 John@Magnolia

Desks
I know that we all can't live in glass houses,but come on people lets clean up the mess!If my stamp room looked just half as bad as some of the ones that I've seen posted the past,Well lets just say that my stamp area would soon be located in the the cab of my big truck,Shame Shame!


 

June 23, 2003 04:22 AM Jim_lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>

Indypex
 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.

:8^)

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

Jim L.


 

June 23, 2003 sveiki!

Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
*gulp* Must clean desk, must clean room... to make photos and upload. *hehe* You guys are making me more and more embarrassed. I guess most of my 4 week vacation must be used to clean my stamp/computer room. {:o)

Saturday, I bought a paper shredder - perhaps now I can get rid of those darn covers?!!! *LOL*
I guess not. But, it's very practical for sensitive informations - had a lot of fun so far shredding all sorts of paper (no covers though).


 

June 23, 2003 3.55 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Office Piccies
Morning all from what promises to be a hot and sultry Baltimore ( at long last !! ).

Just thought I'd post a couple of links to some piccies of the working side of my office - my last picture was too clean !

Office 1

Office 2

Office 3

 


 

June 23, 2003 Vinod "vinobub"

Re. Japan
Dave, Colin Yes indeed I am in Japan now - been here for the last year or so. Happy to provide any kind of assistance/ info that I can, but I should clarify that:

(a) I'm not a long-term,or long-time, resident- the usual tour of duty would be around 2-3 years;

(b) I've nil knowledge of Japan philately or the local philatelic scene, I'm afraid. My specialisation is British Empire George V Fine Used - limited overlap there!

Having said that, fire away - I'll do my best.

Regards, V.


 

June 23, 2003 00:09 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Messy desk
Jim, the answer is emacs. The other box is running Linux. I've had my Sun for 5 years, and last year the company I worked for got acquired by ... Sun. I'm hoping some of the servers at work will get "pensioned" soon so I can upgrade to something more powerful.
 


 

June 23, 2003 11.23 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
 

Personalised Generic sheets
Sorry about that last post chaps and chapesses. I really must not post at 7am before I am awake!

Chuck

I suspect that GB personalised generic sheets will never have more than a curiosity value as the unpersonalised sheet has no more than a footnote in Gibbons, so I have been told. But then, stamp collectors always have been unpredictable!

I concur with your comments about them Jim

Colin


 

June 23, 2003 11.19 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
 

Personalised Generic Sheets
Chuck

I concur with your comments about them Jim

Colin


 

June 22, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Messy Desk
Sun box! Bjorn has a Sun box!
 

OK, now the big question - emacs or vi?
 

Jim


 

June 22, 2003 21:15 Lavar Taylor


Good evening/day to all. Today's featured item of postal history focuses on Germany. When one looks at this cover, one thinks of a dealer's 50c box. One does not think of a postal history rarity (and I am not talking about a rare shade of the stamp, either). This is the most common of German stamps, a 10c Germania, watermarked, sent from a large German town, Cassel, on Sept. 30 1912 to Los Angeles, CA. There are no postal markings on the reverse. What makes this cover so special?

This cover, franked with a 10c Germania, instead of a 20c Germania, was sent with the special concessionary rate in effect between Germany and the US starting Jan. 1, 1909. That makes it uncommon. What makes it really rare, though, is the fact that it is private correspondence. Most treaty rate mail was commercial, not private correspondence. Most individuals were unaware of the special rate. Per Jerry Jensen, who created a 1 frame exhibit of treaty rate mail from Germany to the US, there are only a "handful" of private correspondence covers sent to the US at the treaty rate, which lasted for about 6 years. I found this cover at a local bourse, paid 50c for it, and for another similar one (from the same correspondence). If you want to see Jerry's exhbit, take a look here .


 

June 22, 2003 Rich Wong


Chuck

I moved to Hong Kong to work in September, 1997.

Other than Yang, I don't know or go to any other dealers in Hong Kong. I only buy supplies from Yang.

I buy new issues from Hong Kong Post. I buy my other Hong Kong stamps through eBay, even local eBay sellers! It's cheaper!
I have gotten postage at below face and seen definitive first and last day covers selling below the face value of the stamps. The bottom has fallen out of the speculative last Elizabethan issues since you can't use them for postage.


 

June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm <macalusoharm@sprintmail.com>


Rich

I lived in Hong Kong from 93 to 96. Still miss dim sum at City hall every Sunday morning! Great place to live. Can you recommend any local dealers who can work through email on more modern postally used issues? I need to fll in some of the dated QE heads from 89-92, some of the dues after 1965 and most stamps after about 97.


 

June 22, 2003 Rich Wong


Chuck

I don't have a feel for usage of the 1999 New Year stamps. The local and China rate stamps sold out first as people did use them for mailing out greetings. I would say that most receivers did not scratch off the panel and people preparing first day covers did not either.

Yang only assigned a single number to each of the 4 stamps - C530 to C533.

I do think Hong Kong is issuing too many stamp varieties. I wish I was on the stamp advisory commitee. I'm in Hong Kong and subscribe to new issues. I've protested and actually got a response which said stamp societies in Hong Kong were in favor!?!?


 

June 22, 2003 Rich ard Wong


Sorry about the messed up lines, the message box is shows up wider than my screen and I hit ENTER for a new line and also inserted HTML paragraph breaks.


 

June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm

Hong Kong Stamps
Richard,

Thanks for the info. Because I collect postally used I run about 4-7 years behind current. Also I have lost my Hong Kong dealer for recent stamps so it has become even harder. Do you have a feel how often the panel was scratched off in real postal usage? Has Yang only assigned a single number to the stamps despite the 10 messages?
I am converned that it looks like Hong Kong is becoming a stamp mill and issueing far more than is reasonable.


 

June 22, 2003 5:04 PM Richard Wong (richwong)

Hong Kong New Year Stamps
Chuck



You're talking about the 1999 New Year stamps which were issued in sheets of 10 and 4 values - $1.30, $2.50, $3.10 and $5.
If you collect used with the gold ink scratch-off panel intact, you only need 4 stamps. But if you want to see the greeting message
hidden under the gold ink, you'll need 40 stamps!!! There are 10 different messages (in Chinese ), 1 under each of the 10 stamps
in the sheet!!



Hong Kong has been getting creative with its stamps. I guess they hope the novelty will sell more stamps. The 2003 New Year
stamps (Year of the Ram) were a set of 4 stamps - $1.40, $2.40, $3 and $5 in sheets of 25, souvenir sheet of the 4 values, souvenir
sheet with an imperf $5, souvenir sheet with pure gold and silver foil $50 Ram and $50 Horse stamps, 4 "Flocked Paper" $10
Dragon, Snake, Horse and Ram stamps in a sheet of 16.



Now the post office has announced that future commemorative souvenir sheets will not duplicate the stamps in the set. The
souvenir sheet will have a different stamp of $13. This is so collectors will have a new stamp to pay the fee for Registration!


 

June 22, 2003 16:42 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Messy desk
Bill, it would take several million stamps to "corner the market"... My idea was to sort out variants and cancels. BTW, this isn't the desk where I do stamp sorting and such, it's my computer/work desk.
 


 

June 22, 2003 16:27:32 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Messy desk
Bjorn, perhaps your thought was that if you bought several lots of 50,000 each, you could end up cornering the market, driving the catalog value up several fold, then make a killing by reselling them individually on eBay?

Your desk is much to clean to be able to get anything done. :-)


 

June 22, 2003 16:20 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Midsummer
A view from my roof terrace at 1AM, i.e. true midnight. Taken at 1/20s. This is to NW, I tried one due N, but the sky was too bright and so the buildings look too dark.
 


 

June 22, 2003 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>

Machin FDC
Any use to anyone email is above.
3FDC


 

June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm


jim

Makes a tough call as to what to collect. Easy way out is to collect catalog numebrs and that is reinforced by many album pages. A similar situation exists in Hong Kong with some stamps they made with scratch-off panels under which was a New Year's greeting. Since I collect used stamps should I collect ones with scratched off greetings or just postally used with the greetings still covered. I still haven't decided.


 

June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


colin
I can't help you on prices of UK personalized, my most recent catalog is 2001.
Perhaps someone else has newer.

chuck
I think only if the market will put up with it.
Personally I would buy a generic version but not one with someone elses ugly mug splattered all over it (unless, of course, it was a scantily clad female, but I think there are rules against that).

Essentially each personalized sheet is a one-off (unless some people got really carried away) rather like PVI labels each of which is unique but few people collect.


 

June 22, 2003 14:34 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)

Messy desk
Here is my late contribution. I had to get a 2nd computer a year ago for technical reasons (the right one) to connect to the company network. In the boxes in the corner you'll find e.g. 30,000 copies of the 1951 30 ore Haakon VII definitive which I'm not sure why I bought. The book piles are mostly catalogues I use to check eBay items (I need 5 different editions of Norgeskatalogen), two dictionaries etc. Picture taken at 11:14 PM.
 


 

June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm

Personalized Sheets
Jim,

Once it gets a seperate catalog number I think price escalation is guaranteed as the quantity is limited and it is needed for a "complete" collection.


 

June 22, 2003 2:27pm Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>

CSA's - Real or Fake - Thanks
 

Brian R

- Thanks for the clarification on the CSA's

 

claghorn1P

- You think I've got $200 there? You yanking my chain? I'll be happy with a fraction of that. Maybe not such a bad find in a box "junk lot".

Sorry for the delay - been getting some yard work done between rain drops.

Jonathan


 

June 22, 2003 02.23 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/GB_Special_Issues/
 

Japan & GB Generic Sheets
Iomoon

It looks that way from the Sakura catalogue Jim , and I hope that is the reason for the personalised sheet being more expensive, as I made some for my grandchildren on the GB Generic sheets a couple of years ago, and kept a complete sheet of each for my collection! Not having a more modern GB Catalogue, do you know their values, and that of the first London 2000 Generic Sheet (not personalised)?

I have been selling presentation packs and PHQ cards for my son-in-law. By themselves they do not sell, but I find that having the Pack and the PHQ cards of the same issue sells better. I have just had one auction end and the Scotland new regionals made £10.50, much to my surprise! I think I’ll tell the buyer about all the others I have for sale!

Busy weekend helping my son out at his churches over near Pontefract, so I had better turn in now. I will log on again in the morning. The “Heat Wave” here is continuing, and that includes the odd heavy thunder storm!

Colin


 

June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Yes chuck, UK does same thing when it sells their personalized sheets.
I can see how the person having the sheet personalized would want to pay more, but I can't really see someone else paying extra money for a picture of someone they probably don't know.
I may be wrong!


 

June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Either eBay crashed or is experiencing a go-slow.
Just loaded three auctions, got screen confirmation of all three.
Got email confirmation of the first.
The other two seem to have disappeared.


 

June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm

PhilaNippon Sheet
Jim

Sakura notes that the personalized sheet sold new for 1100 yen versus the 650 yen for the standard sheet.


 

June 22, 2003 MagnoliaStamps

Even Worse
3 post in 6 hours,ebay is winning!


 

June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dave
I gather that you went to Phila Nippon'01.
I see that the second souvenir sheet - C1835 in Sakura comes in two flavors.
Am I right in assuming that C1835 is the generic version and C1835A is the personalized version. Is that the only difference that accounts for the three times price difference of the latter?


 

June 22, 2003 12.26 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
 

Japanese Colours and Catalogues
Dave & Jim

I have been away all weekend and away from all my catalogues. A very interesting discussion on Japanese Colours. As to the Sakura 196 & 199, as Dave said, the Specialized gives two colour shades for the 199. And as the watermarks are different I don’t suppose the worried too much about description of dull ultramarine for both. It is standard practice for the shades to simply compare the stamps of the same issue, so the 2 “dull ultramarines” may well differ, as the 199 dull ultramarine is so in comparison with 199a, described as “dull blue”.

I am only just getting down to comparing the shades on the early 1900’s stamps, and the Specialized is the best guide, though I do use Gibbons as a more understandable definition of the perforations, not understanding Japanese!

But as an easy to use catalogue I find Sakura invaluable, the colour photographs being great in finding what you want. I wonder how they produce it at such a low price? Perhaps Vinod knows?

Colin posted 22.6.03


 

June 22, 2003 10:17 Dave ("philatarium")


Vinod:I didn't realize you were in Japan. Are you travelling there, or do you live there? I have several questions for a stamp-person living in Japan.


 

June 22, 2003 magnolia stamps


John L Kimbrough

I would love to have one my SASE is in the mail.
Thanks,,,,,,,,,John


 

June 22, 2003 0755 PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com> http://www.csastamps.com
 

CSA Fakes
 

With all the talk recently of CSA Fakes, this would be a good time to remind the board readers that the 1994 Confederate Stamp Alliance publication "How to Tell the Genuine from the Counterfeit" by Kreiger and Powell is still very much available. And it is FREE. It was never meant to be sold. I have a box full of them and would be happy to send one to anyone who wants one.

 

For anyone who would like one of these booklets, all you have to do is send me a standard #10 business size SASE (60c postage please within the USA) and I will be happy to put one in the mail to you as long as my supply holds out. If you are outside the USA, airmail postage would be $1.60.

 

John L. Kimbrough

10140 Wandering Way

Benbrook TX 76126


 

June 22, 2003 Vinod "vinobub"

Frozen Date cds
Chris,

your memory is better than I thought! Thanks very much for the response. Off to bed now. G'night all from Japan

Rgds,V.


 

June 22, 2003 Prometheus

Bill W = fakes
I know that many things are/have been used for Bogus Postage, Remember I'm new at this hobby.
Where you and others have seen thousands of examples of everything well almost.
I have only seen a few thousand in total and Have a habit of getting one of anything new I see
Just to learn.
My favorite part wasn't the Use of a non stamp for postage it was the Non Payment of Postage on his Property Tax Debt.
I viewed it as a neat way to protest
 


 

June 22, 2003 6.32pm PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Goodnight all.


 

June 22, 2003 05:12 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>

Indypex
 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.

:8^)

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year.

Jim L.


 

June 22, 2003 Chris Ceremuga <ceremuga@hotmail.com>

"frozen date" cds
Vinod: I think I know which exact item you are referring to! As David replied "frozen date" means a fixed date. In this case we are talking about the old German New Guinea "Stephansort" cds with "13" year date which was discovered in damaged condition (missing date plugs etc) during Australian Occupation period & provisionally used in Rabaul PO about November 1914 to January 1915. It represents proper & contemporary cancellation on GRI overprints & does not have any negative connotations.

Note: German NG PO officials had sealed instructions to in the event of war to destroy / dispose off all cancellers etc, and that was followed in most PO's with only the Stephansort & Buka cds surviving.


 

June 22, 2003 sveiki!

Happy solstice!
It's so nice to watch the skies at 3 am.
It's not getting dark at all in the part of the hemisphere. {:o)


 

June 22, 2003 04:04 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a colorful cover from Portugal to Germany in 1895. My, what an excellent port!


 

June 22, 2003 David Benson


Vinod, sorry, never heard of it but it must mean a cancel with a fixed date. Can't see any purpose unless it means a forged cancel that didn't have any way of changing the date and only exist with the one date.

David Benson


 

June 22, 2003 Vinod Menon

Philatelic Question
Could David (D2) or anyone else clarify precisely what is meant by a "frozen-date" CDS? Is this the same as CTO? Possibly non - contemporary? I gather it has an undesirable connotation (or does it?) but what exactly does it refer to?

TIA.

Vinod


 

June 22, 2003 David Benson


Dave, just checked the 2001, 2002 and 2003, all have it as CC. Think it was only a hiccup in 2000,

David Benson.


 

June 22, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)

False Hopes
We all know the feeling when you think you have discovered a real rarity, or something new. Was checking through some stamps for possible listing when I came across a nice used copy of the first (1879) Gold Coast halfpenny. But Gibbons (2000 Part One) lists this with Crown CA watermark, mine is clearly Crown CC. Visions of a small bonanza! Then I smell a rat, the 1883 halfpenny has an identical description. So I look it up in an old (1993) Part One, and sure enough the 1879 issue is listed as Crown CC – thoughts of sudden wealth evaporate.

Well thank you Mr Gibbons, that is just plain cruel! Incidentally, I don’t know if the listing has been corrected in more recent editions.
 


 

June 22, 2003 00.29 Knud-Erik (knuden)


 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

K.E. 
 


 

June 22, 2003 00:20 Lavar Taylor


Finally have some stamp time after a horrendously busy week. Today's featured item of postal history focuses on US mail to Germany. This 2c postal envelope was mailed from Hartford, Conn. on Dec. 17, 1911 to Berlin, Germany. It was uprated with 2 additional stamps to pay the 5c international letter rate. The sender apparently did not know about or did not care about the 2c treaty rate in effect for mail to Germany from the US, a rate which applied to mail sent on ships traveling from the US directly to Germany (i.e., non-stop) at that time. There is nothing very significant about this cover until one takes a look at the reverse , which has a single copy of WX7. Although not tied, close mangification leads me to believe that the seal has been there for a long time. Although not valued by the US Specialized catalog on cover, I imagine that they are hard to find, even harder to find tied.


 

June 21, 2003 David Benson


Bill, looks OK (at least it's better than the one currently resting in it's place).

David Benson


 

June 21, 2003 22:49:30 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Yugoslavia
David, what's you opinion on this [best scan I could get from the seller]? It seems goo to me, except maybe a little fuzzy on the top line...


 

June 21, 2003 22:41:50 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 


Bob, I suppose I could always revert to the description "See scan, may be a default or two." and just change scans for each lot. :-) As it is, it's tough to get more than a couple of days worth of these types of listings in per week, except for things like the stockbooks, where I can use the same description and images for each lot.


 

June 21, 2003 22:38:30 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Darn
Nearly got it right! The last one.


 

June 21, 2003 10:37 Bob in WA

tagging, etc
My guess is that when the machine doesn't detect tagging, it kicks out the cover to be inspected by a human. If the human isn't bright enough to tell a TB label from a stamp, he may still pass it on.

What I've always wondered is what if it detects the tagging from a 29¢ stamp, or a 22¢ stamp, etc. Can it tell them from the required 37¢? I doubt it. Are there any tagged 1¢ stamps? (Just kidding.)

Bill -- I'm with you, it would take me all day to list 10-20 lots. I know the regular sellers use the turbolisters and all that. I sure appreciate a nicely written description, though, that was obviously written for that particular lot. Many mass produced listings leave a lot to be desired. I think the best way is to get all the pics in one file, and write up descriptions on a dosument, ready to copy and paste when you actually want to post them. That way you can work in bits and pieces for a few days, and choose the best time to post, so auction end will be at a good time of the day and week.


 

June 21, 2003 22:34:13 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Messy Desks
And the challenge is on! :-)

Here, here, here, and here are the images to create a panorama of the stamp portion of my bedroom. Here is a view of the area between those and my bed. I agree that it's really too neat to be a champion, I'm sure many of you can do better. :-) [BTW, the album opened on the desk is my Turkey, it's busy catching me up on the web... 26 pages down, 100 or so to go.)


 

June 21, 2003 Now Chris I_am_the_urban_spaceman.com
 

Snipe or get nibbled
I got a reminder of why sniping is good yesterday.
There were two Hellecaster CD's at a very nice price.
I was going to be away from a computer at auction end, so I bid
my max at about 90 minutes before EOA.
The old high bidder nibbled me up from 15.50 to over my max of 20.51 and won the auction.
He did not bid until he saw my bid, so had I been able to snipe at my usual 10 seconds, I'd
have got them at 15.50. (I'm not going to use a sniping service, just wait for them to com up again.)

Chris - The Hellecasters are three guitar gods who play Fender Telecaster guitars
Check out their version of the Peter Gunn theme


 

June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Desks
Bill, my messy desk with all my stuff on is behind me - I'll do a picture of that one sometime.

With regards to listing, I use Turbolister which, once you have a template set up, you can continue to use that each time for each lot. The only thing you then have to add is a description and of course a title. I'm also blessed with the fact that I'm a pretty good typer ( 55 - 60 words per minute ), which I think also helps.

Off to bed now - got nearly 40 boxes to move into a rented storage facility tomorrow, now that IS going to be fun !! ( NOT ! ).

Mark.


 

June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

new desk
Ah come on Bill, I think you purposely messed it up a little. I'd be embarrassed to have such a neat desk.(;o)

One of these days I'll take a picture of mine, although I'll probably have to snap the entire room because I'm not too sure where the desk is anymore.


 

June 21, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss

#315
I don't like it for several reasons; Bill S. points out what looks like a perf hole, plus I see another at UL, the eyes have too much ink in them so no, it doesn't pass the "eye" test and I also don't like the overall color, although that can probably be influenced by the scan.
What I DO LIKE is the fact that they seller is apparently honest to allow extension, but the only qestion is will he PAY for an adverse opinion? If not, the lucky buyer gets to spend $35/50. to find out he bought a trimmed stamp.
One other thing, there's also a small brown stain at the bottom, so even if it got a good cert., that flaw would be noted at minimum. Although at anywhere near the current bid it would be a good buy if it got a good cert.


 

June 21, 2003 20:28:54 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

new desk
Mark, but how on earth are you ever going to get anything done with a desk that's that clean? My desk...


 

June 21, 2003 20:23:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Whew
Just got done listing ten lost today. Took me most of the afternoon. How on earth do you people listing many more than that do it? Just typing descriptions with wording I could feel comfortable with took forever, much less the HTML to make it look reasonably professional...


 

June 21, 2003 20:21:07 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

maybe??
Brian, doesn't look big enough to me... And is that the edge of a perf hole I see at lower right? I doubt if it could get a good cert.


 

June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Nothing in particular.
Jim - Glad the check arrived Ok. Will let you know when the booklet turns up.

Just spent three hours putting my new desk / desktop hutch together/ My bedroom actually looks like an office now - I guess I'll have to start putting in even more hours !!
My New Desk
 


 

June 21, 2003 Brian R

maybe??
Does anyone think this one is big enough to pass muster? Bill W How does it hold up to your "eye test"?


 

June 21, 2003 8:00PM Bill Weiss

Lung Association Seal on Cover
PROMETHEUS; The seal used to pay postage is neither a fake nor a forgery. Just a fraudulent use of a seal to pay postage. From what I understand, anyone can get away with such silly things used as postage (and I kind of hate to say all this outloud lest some unscupulous folks go ahead and do it) simply because envelopes of standard sizes are no longer handled by people. Only by machine, and the machine can't tell if the item in the postage space is a bonafide stamp or not. Only thing that always confused me about this theory was that I thought that's why tagging was invented, so that the machine could "see" (detect) the tagged stamp during the postmarking process. If that were true, only tagged things should get through and you would think that non-tagged things would get rejected. If any experts on tagging are here, perhaps they could enlighten us about this.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dave
Twas the same festive spirit at Brighton


 

June 21, 2003 Prometheus

fake = with the fixed link
see previous post Cover UnrealStamp


June 21, 2003 Prometheus

fake
Did this item never exist as a fake because it's not an attempt to fool a collector, But is in fact a true Forgery used with the intent to defraud the Government??


 

June 21, 2003 Prometheus

Brian R = Thanks + K.u.k.Armeetrainfelddepot nr 1
Any body care to help me understand this K.u.k.
Is this like an R.P.O. Just Army.


 

June 21, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)


io Jim


I am honoured, did you wave? The "Clacton time-warp" is evident now summer is here, stuck in the 1950's, all kiss-me-quick hats and cockles and winkles.


 

June 21, 2003 17:03 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

CSA's - Real or Fake
Jonathan Do not despair. The cruder "Wood Cuts" and the provisionals still go for significant money these days. You should get at least $20.00 or up to $50.00 or more each for the nine of the twelve in the upper left corner. The others might get a buck or two each or half that in a lot of different. I would say you have at least $200.00 worth there, probably more, even as forgeries.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 21, 2003 1700:39 Bill Burch <jackstay@ecsis.net>

Japanese, Chinese
You guys make me feel inferior. The only Chinese I know is how to order beer. And the only Japanese I know is "sayonara", which I think everyone knows.


 

June 21, 2003 Brian R


Prometheus Your stamp is real.


 

June 21, 2003 Prometheus

KE = Whole post card scan
Sorry I didn't post it sooner been out finding more Used mail.

Whole Address side HUNGOVPTCEN

Real picture side of a stunning Hungarian woman FRont


 

June 21, 2003 Brian R


Jonathan I'm pretty sure Richard was refering to the fourth stamp from left, third row. It appears to be an early hand drawn fake likely produced from a woodcut.


 

June 21, 2003 Prometheus

CSA = Real I hope Opinions
This is another from my little hoard of CSA stuff 11
Opinions as to it's Origin would be enjoyed either way.
It's from an Old German album and as i have learned sometimes not real in it.


 

June 21, 2003 4:26pm Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>

Bogus CSA's - Again
 

Richard

In reading your post again about my bogus CSA'a you noted a 5c design in the 2nd row. I don't see a 5c in the 2nd row - did you mean the 5c green in the 3rd row?

Jonathan


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dave
For some reason your last post reminds me I flew over Clacton on my way into Stansted last week.


 

June 21, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)

Languages
I am humbled by the linguistic skills of posters on this board, Japanese and Chinese! It took me eight years to pick up a smattering of schoolboy French. On the other hand after working for a time in an international bank I could translate a Bill of Lading from about a dozen languages - all forgotten now, though the ability to translate "mines and torpedoes" into Italian, or recognising "flotsam and jetsam" in Polish was of little help for either holidays, of philately!


 

June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm


Dave,

I was based in Hong Kong responsible for our Asian operations for three years in the early 90's so taht it the source of my Asian philatelic interests. While there I studied Mandarin and I had studied Japanese earlier. It is depressing how fast language skills erode, but I can at least still use dictionaries and knowledge of grammar so I can handle working our catalog information. At one time in Chinese I could read about 1500 characters and so in Japanese I could get a lot of meaning even if I couldn't pronounce them. I do collect Japanese stamps although it is not currently my primary focus, that is still British Asia, but I do pick up a lot of inexpensive stamps Japanese stamps to provide quamtity when I go to shows. At some point I will get serious about Japan and learn enough to safely buy the earlier issues but I suspect that will be three or four years away. meanwhile I am having a lot of fun chasing prefecture and other modern issues.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dave
Similar thing in geology.
The subdivisions of the geologic time scale in Chinese are essentially direct translations of the latin on which the English is based. Hence Paleozoic translates as "ancient life" direct from Chinese.
However, when it comes to rocks, such as andesite, the English translation of the Chinese comes out to something like "white speckly rock". Out of context the characters are almost totally meaningless.


 

June 21, 2003 14:00 Dave ("philatarium")

reading Japanese
Jim: I just had one more thought about reading Japanese on the computer. With the later versions of Windows, these problems are handled more easily than before. (Not sure what version you're on, or if you're even on Windows.) The good news (and that's rare with Windows!) is that now, once I indicated to Windows that I wanted to read Japanese, it loaded not only Japanese but also Chinese and Korean! I was shocked when I inadvertently went to a Korean philatelic website and the characters were correctly represented. (Not that I could read them ...)

So, at some point down the road, if you upgrade your operating system, once you can handle Chinese, then you've taken care of the Japanese problem at the same time.


 

June 21, 2003 13:52 Dave ("philatarium")

Japanese colors
Jim: One other complication with the colors is that sometimes the same color descriptions in Japanese are translated differently into English by the JSCA. That arises not from sloppy translating, but rather, I think (or seem to recall reading somewhere), that there is more specificity in English color terms (especially for philately) than in Japanese. And also, if I recall correctly, when the Japan Specialized started adding English color terms, they used the new Stanley Gibbons color guide, in part because it allowed for greater precision than color terms in Japanese would allow (and the color guide was already developed). (There is not a general color guide for Japanese stamps, as far as I know, although there were a couple of limited-edition color guides prepared for the Kobans, etc. They sold out quickly and I was not able to find one on the secondary market when I was over there for PhilaNippon.)

Back to my point about the inconsistent application of the terms, the color description of the 188 (1922 Fuji deer 20 sen) is the same as for the 196 (1937 Fuji deer 20 sen, w1) in Japanese, but the term in English for the 188 is "royal blue", while for the 196 is "dull ultramarine". Again, the Japanese description is the same, but the English is different. So don't go banging your head against the wall too much over this.

Chuck: I'm impressed by your language studies. I studied Japanese off and on at college and later, and was pretty proficient at one point, but the half-life deterioration rate of that kind of knowledge is pretty short for me! Do your philatelic interests reflect the Chinese and/or Japanese background?


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


chuck,
I'm self taught with Chinese characters and have compiled my own quick reference log of geologically-related characters.
I was just trying to take a short cut by seeing if there was a color chart - japanese character - english translation already available on line.


 

June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm


Jim,

I can do limited translations of Japanese or Chinese. I studied each for 4 years and can use character dictionaries. I don't have software installed at the current time to input and send characters but my computer will display correctly.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Dave
Pity that last color guide you linked didn't have Kanji characters.
It would have made life so much easier.
chuck
Paper difference could be a distinct possibility.


 

June 21, 2003 12:08 Dave ("philatarium")

Japanese colors
Jim & Chuck: I don't have the Sakura handy at the moment, and I don't know, Jim, if you're trying to id between the two, but, as I'm sure the Sakura indicates, there is a watermark difference between the 196 & 199. (196 is the type 1 watermark (parallel zig-zag lines), while the 199 is the type 3 watermark (how to describe: parallel straight lines interrupted by alternating semicircles(?)).

But I bet you're not trying to id between them; just trying to understand color differences.

Chuck, your explanation sounds plausible.

Looks like the 196s had been out for a month when the 199s came out. No doubt explains the substantial price difference between them.

Always great to talk about Japanese stamps for a change!


 

June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm

Japanese colors
Jim,
You inspired me to get out my Sakura and Japanese dictionary. On the 199 entry Sakura states that the printing colors are the same as issue IV (which includes the 196). However there is a paper difference noted - the Issue IV is printed on "writing paper" which appears to be offwhite while the 199 is printed on "white paper". Perhaps that is affecting the final color. The Sakura illustrations clearly show a color difference.
 


 

June 21, 2003 11:34 Dave ("philatarium")

Japanese colors
Jim: According the JSDA, the 196 is "dull ultramarine", while 199 has a main listing also as "dull ultramarine", but also has a variant, 199a, characterized as "dull blue". (No price difference between 199 and 199a, btw.)


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Thanks Dave
That was along the lines of what I was looking for.
I tried to download Japanese character reader but I keep getting "not available at this time".
My reason for asking was with the definitives, 196 and 199 in Sakura.
Both are listed as dark blue whereas to me 196 is purple blue and 199 is ultramarine or just plain blue.


 

June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


What might be a standard shipping cost to send a full sheet of stamps domstically (U.S.) or internationally?


 

June 21, 2003 11:20 FERD W.

MACHINS v. EXPORTAS
BRIAN R.-Try Mexico EXPORTA definitives. Only 28 face different, 65 denominations, 14 different papers, 3 perfs and 3 types. Tagging differences, watermarks, color shades, size differences in mm, varieties, errors. In 18 years ONLY 22 rate changes. 122 Scott #'s, surface and airmail. Then gum varieties, fly specking, etc. Have fun. F.W.


 

June 21, 2003 11:16 Dave ("philatarium")


Sorry -- don't know what happened to my html, typing, and proofing skills ...


 

June 21, 2003 11:11 Dave ("philatarium")

Japanese colors
Jim: There is also this site, which is designed to help reconcile Japanese color palettes to web colors and hexadecimal codes.

http://www.color-guide.com/e_index.htm

However, it sites the Japanese names in romaji and English, which is helpful if you're notlooking for the kanji, but not helpful if you are.


 

June 21, 2003 11:01 Dave ("philatarium")

Japanese colors
Hi, Jim. Just swooping in for a minute to ponder your question.

If you're looking for a short list of simple colors, then this listmight work. (Do you have Japanese enabled on your computer?)

What are your objectives? Are you dealing with color and shade questions of one of the major definitive series? Or are you just looking to see if the Sakura uses the same color descriptions on volcano stamps as, say, Scott or Gibbons? More likely it's something in between. I would different solutions, depending on the objective.

One tip is that, if you also have the JSDA Specialized, they have color variations on some of the tough definitive series in both English and Japanese.

I may be able to provide more help, so let me know. However, I am away from most of my reference materials for the next few days (I know you know what that's like!), so I may not be able to be of as much help as I'd like to be, or as quickly as I'd like to be.


 

June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

gum
Maybe someone can "remove" all the original gum from , otherwise, damaged stamps, bottle it up and sell it to those people who have undamaged stamps that are ungummed. As I've stated in the past, I guess I'm lucky because gum is not improtant on Spanish stamps. I've bought several unused stamps without gum and I wouldn't pay any premium for stamps with gum and NH. The gummed side is just not that important, unless I was doing a gum study.

Having said that, I do think there should be a full refund for the stamp in question. One thing I see is that because it's got no gum, it would be virtually impossible to tell if it's never been hinged. The seller shouldn't be able to make a claim like "MNH" when the stamp has no gum. He (the seller) cannot prove it's never been hinged. At least with a gummed stamp, there is a chance to see the previously hinged evidence. It's misleading at best.


 

June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

Non-philatelic post
Learned somethig very important today:

1.75 acres of tall grass to mow + 22 inch push mower + 80 degree temps = A whole lot of NON-FUN. I think I lost 5 pounds though!


 

June 21, 2003 10:11 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Original Gum a vaouable commodity
IOmoon Original Gum is becoming a very valuable commodity, worth more in it's weight than gold. Maybe some collectors should start mounting their stamps face down so we all can appreciate it!

I for one perfer mint stamps without gum. They are easier to hinge that way, the stamp stops cracking from old gum, and the stamps are less likely to stick to the album. Stamps without gum should be more expesnive as someone went to the bother to remove that pesky substance. ;-)

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


colin &/or Dave
Have either of you managed to find a web site that lists colors on Japanese stamps in both English and Japanese characters?


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


mark
It also pee's me off when a seller labels a stamp as regummed then quotes value for mint stamp.
In this case, £450 versus £80.

BTW thanks for check.


 

June 21, 2003 9:24am Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>

CSA's - Real or Fake
 

Richard and Brian R

Thanks both for your info - yes I saw the interesting post yesterday about the "altered plate". I scroll through daily while I eat my lunch at my desk at work to see what's going on, but rarely come down to post.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Brian
'Fraid so.
Royal Mail started messing with tagging in 1957.


 

June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Ebay item 2930119227 - Scott 113
I have to disagree with you John. The guy described the stamp as Mint Never Hinged and quoted that catalog value for this stamp in the title. If I had been looking at this I wouldn't have emailed asking if it had gum as, from his description it clearly should have. The catalog value for ungummed ( in Scott's normal catalog ) is $325. He needs to offer a full refund for mis-description.

Mark ( off to do some shopping )


 

June 21, 2003 Brian R

csa & machins
Jim O.K., I've got some regionals then. Haven't seen any doubleheads or landscapes yet. Do I really have to blacklight these? Was the Royal Mail actually messing with tagging back then (latest postmark i've seen is 1974)?

Johnathan Yep, those are all either bogus issues or altered plate printings. The bogus issues(mostly) your top row can actually be worth some money. Plenty of CSA buffs, maintain a secondary collection of the various chicanery thats taken place, over the years, designed to separate them from their money. The various colors of the 10c. Davis's you have were all made by the "altered plate" the story of, John K. was nice enough to post about(if you scroll back about a day).

If you go to www.rfrajola.com, you'll find a neat listing, and info about, many of the CSA "bogus issues", including some of yours.


 

June 21, 2003 sveiki!


Knuden Nå, det var nu ikke noget særligt, har allerede glemt det. {:o) Forresten, fandt Gnags CD'er på tilbud hos Føtex for 25 kroner stykket. Skulle bare ha' 6 stykker. Alt er iøvrigt helt pingeling her, du skal ikke tage det alvorligt når jeg svinger lidt i hvad jeg skriver om - det er bare mit forblæste hovede. {;o)

iomoon You're welcome!


 

June 21, 2003 Richard Frajola


Jonathan The CSA are all fake or bogus. See my site here. All of the 10c stuff with design like CSA #6 is common but the Blockade stamp is worth $20 or $25 and the 5c crude design in row 2 is maybe another $20. Both of those are relatively early jobs.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Brian

Its quite easy.
The regionals are stamps issued to appease the Welsh, Irish and Scots.
Ireland has a hand, Scotland a lion on two legs and Wales a dragon on four.

Landscape as in your printer, horizontal dimension is greater than vertical.

Double heads have both Vicky and Liz.


 

June 21, 2003 07:49am Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>

CSA's - Real or Fake
OK, I'm jumping out of the balcony and onto the stage. I've seen some discussion on CSA's the past day or so and just came across
these in a box lot from a local estate auction - (I know, I know, but these REALLY DID come from a local estate sale). I'm assuming they are all reprints, but would like to verify with someone who is knowledgable on CSA's. With some of the other stuff I've been finding, it's hard to know. Any feedback is appreciated.

Jonathan


 

June 21, 2003 Brian R

machins
Jim W-S I appreciate the machin primer. Unfortunately, it appears to be in another language to me. Regionals? Landscape? Double heads? Photo/litho? (that I understand but have no clue how to determine)

I'm going to have to buy a book.

Now I'm mad at myself. I knew this was going to be quicksand, and I leaped right in anyway. Someone should write, to the Royal Mail, and tell them that normal postal authorities change their definatives evey decade or two!


 

June 21, 2003 7.10am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Off to bed. Goodnight all.
 

Paul


 

June 21, 2003 7.03am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim (Io) Not only did they have poor registration for the printing of the name tablets, they also had poor registration for the perforation of the stamps. More often than not, stamps of these issues are found badly off-centre.
 

Paul


 

June 21, 2003 07:02 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>

Indypex
 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.

:8^)

June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. My offer still stand for getting together for lunch on Friday. I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap) places within walking distance.


Jim L.
 


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Paul & Jimbo
Sometimes I wish I had duplicate libraries.
My copy of Brun is at the other end of the country.
Typography for the country name seems a distinct probability.
Judging by the variation in location within "the box" of the french colonies country names, they had severe problems in registration.


 

June 21, 2003 Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Sniped, by another Jim!
 

Paul


 

June 21, 2003 Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim I recently acquired a copy of Brun's book "Out-Foxing the Fakers". In it, Brun compared the characteristics of typography, lithography and recess printing as often forgers use a different method to the one used to print the original stamps. One of the characteristics of typography is a slight raising of the reverse of the stamp (reverse embossing) although, depending on the pressure used, this is often not noticeable. Maybe this is the effect that you are seeing.
 

Paul (PS you might recall I won an eBay auction for a copy of this book last year but, in a fit of perversity, the seller refused to provide shipping details and I copped a retaliatory negative for my troubles. It was worth waiting for another copy.)


 

June 21, 2003 06:13 Jim Watson


Io,
The impression is often seen when the stamps have been printed in a letterpress where the type is set in a frame, inked, and then pressed against the paper. The press generally has a backing paper under the paper on which the printing is done. This is soft and is adjusted by layers of thin paper to accommodate dimensional differences in the height of the type setup. This provides a 'soft' bed which permits the high pressure of the press to create indentations where the type hits the paper.


 

June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Paul

Thanks for the reply.
I wasn't writing that country name was typewritten, just that the reverse of the stamp is raised, corresponding to the lettering on the front side.
Implying a fair amount of pressure was added, in this case, in applying the country name.


 

June 21, 2003 5.14am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>


Jim Whitford-Stark re your discussion with David B. on French colonial stamps. Given David's reference to your collecting Mayotte, I presume you were referring to the Peace and Commerce issue (1892/1900). I have seen imperforate sheets of Indo-China made up of 4 panes (2 x 2) of 25 stamps (5 x 5). The printing of the Indo-China issues were done by typography in two operations. I don't know, however, how the forme was made up for the printing of the name tablet. There are many minor printing faults in the lettering of the colony name. I haven't seen any typewritten colony names or any mention of them.
 

Paul


 

June 21, 2003 04:24 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a registered cover from Uruguay to Jamaica in 1923. Say "Hi!" to this octagenerian!


 

June 21, 2003 Bjorn Langoren


Iomoon,
looks Babelfish produced that cryptic English:

Ich weiss - I know
grau - could mean dawn (at least in Norwegian, dawn and gray are very similar in sound, In german probably the word has double meaning.)

Which color has the paper? ?? dawns or knows
Greetings Rolf

Welche Farbe hat das Papier? grau oder weiß??


 

June 21, 2003 23.51 Knud-Erik (knuden)

Blue cancel
 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

Prometheus - Your blue cancel is a censor cancel from Budapest probaly from WW1. :O) Can we see the entire card please.


 

K.E. 

 


 

June 21, 2003 11:16 pm Bob in WA

No gum # 113
OK, I finally had to find the lot and see for myself. It is lot #2930119227. It IS correctly called a #113, not #112, so I assume that was just a momentary lapse on Michael's part.

In addition to the description saying Mint Never Hinged, with the connotation we have been discussing, it also says "...with grill. ... If it didn't have the grill it would be worth $2750." Here he is referring to Scott's listing in the specialized of #113b, which says "without grill, original gum" !! So here is a second implication that it has gum. He didn't say, "If it didn't have the grill AND IT HAD GUM it would be worth $2750", he only mentioned the grill. (Kind of like offering a C3 and saying "If the airplane was upside down it would be worth...")

Finally, in both the TITLE and the description it says "$750 catalog value"! That is the catalog value for a gummed copy. The specialized has a separate listing for an unused no gum copy, about half as much. (In my 2001 Specialized they are $650 and $300 respectively.) So here is yet ANOTHER definite indication that this stamp has gum! Even though he never used the word "gum" in the description, he has made three independent statements that indicate it is definitely there! Even if you throw out the "definition of MNH" argument, you still have a rock solid claim based on his price quotes.

Leastways that's the way I see it.

Bob in WA


 

June 20, 2003 John


Greg

Many years ago some collectors actually washed the gum from the stamp on purpose!Thusly making it worth less by some of todays standards.But if you will read closer in your scott cat. you will also see that prices for stamps befor a certain date with full gum will command a slightly higher price.


 

June 20, 2003 Magnolia stamps


BTW

after setting here reading the comments to Micheal Plotnick I noticed that no one has caught the fact that he refers to it as a 112 when it is really a 113.Look herehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=683&item=2930119227


 

June 20, 2003 Greg Olmstead

MNH
MNH probably already got beat to death here. But, since it's midnight here and nobody will probably read this anyway, I feel compelled to offer the following: According to the mighty Scott Publishing, purveyor of all stamp wisdom, stamps are either "unused" or "used". If they are "unused" they may be "never hinged". In the 2003 Scott U.S. Specialized I cannot find any mention of the word "mint" or "mint never hinged". Personally, I have always considered unused stamps with gum to be "mint" but who am I to argue with the mighty Scott Publishing?


 

June 20, 2003 Magnolia stamps

551
NOIP

finding a well centered stamp in this group is a little harder than some.Could this be the cause for the higher bidding.Think people!


 

June 20, 2003 21:49:40 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Hungaria Question NOIP
Also of interest... That series of Hadi Segély overprints was the second series. They also did one in 1914 (on the 1913 semi-postal issues) and a new stamp design for 1916. After that, of course, things got a little ... hectic in Hungary and I imagine the effort fell apart. Or at least that they had other, more important, things to fund. The 1917 semi-postals are called 'Margitziget' in this catalog.


 

June 20, 2003 MagnoliaStamps

No fraud.
Micheal P.

To start off with let me say your first mistake was to even have bid on an off centered stamp that was to say the least Misidentifide.that should have been the 1st tip off!That stamp is not a 112 but rather it is a 113.2nd nowhere in the ad does say anything about gum!Why even bother to complain to E-bay about your mistake in judgement,you shoug have asked for a picture of the back of the stamp before bidding!And thirdly the dealer said the he offered you a refund why have you not retunred it? and last but not least citibank has a fraud and theft by deseption clause/that is if you have that on your card!Therefore you will get no sympathy here as you got exactly what was listed and what you paid for is what you got,maybe next time you will have the since to go to a reputable dealer and look at what your buying first!

Now if you want to say that I'm some kind of an a--hole go ahead,but your the one who bid on it!


 

June 20, 2003 21:36:59 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

Hungaria Question NOIP
Your fist one is a semi-postal overprint, they sold for a little more than face (that's the 2f on the right side) and were used to help fund aid for war widows and orphans. I can't help you with the marking, I don't have a Hungarian-English reference yet... [Though I need one, I've got a specialized Hungary catalog here in Hungarian. :-)]

It's interesting to note that the base stamp used in that semi-postal is shown in several perfs and several watermarks, and all are more expensive than the semi-postals, where they don't seem to mention either perf or watermark type...


 

June 20, 2003 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>

Hungaria Question NOIP
It might be my fault but I can't identify the overprint on this hungary 1915 HadLsegely anyone know, is it me are did they use more Overprints in this part of wolrd than anywhere??

Additional Hungary Question BLUEWORDS Is this a postal marking and if so What does it mean ??

Thanks in advance if you can help

Nomad = Thanks for the compliment on my Postal card scan from early in day I buy some things Just because they have that great Eye appeal. Nothing rare nothing fancy Just average, everyday mail.


 

June 20, 2003 6:21 pm Bob in WA

½¢ Hale going high
Mark -- One guess would be that the bidder "rickyhale" is a descendant of Nathan Hale's who knows nothing about stamps.


 

June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 


Thanks for the info on the 551's !! I'll have to look out for some of them.

Jim - Yes please ! as long as it's chocolate :)


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


I forgot the Very Large Heads, put them under B - 1977.

mark
A piece of cake!!


 

June 20, 2003 4:58 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp) http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
 

A Sc#551 for $11 ???
Mark Bardell: Truly great 551's go for exceptional prices on eBay (upwards of $20)...I think it is an 'eBay thing'. But that one isn't particularly nice and it baffles me as well. Certainly not worth $11. Not even worth a buck!


 

June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Machin stamps...
Jim, if it was as easy as that I would have started collecting years ago !! LOL ;O)


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Brian
A quick guide to sorting machin UK stamps.

First level
A. d (penny values) 1967-70 only. Phosphor band variants
B. High value large heads – 1967 - 2/6, 5/-,10/- £1, 1970 – 10p, 20p, 50p, £1
C. Regular perfs all round, p values.
D. Elliptical perfs
E. Regionals
F. Double heads
G. Landscape
H. NVI’s (No value Indicated)

Second level
C1. Litho
No 1/2p values. All x14 are litho
x14 = JW 4p,4,20,20. Walsall 2,14,19,24,29,29,31,33,39. Questa 2,5,5,75
15x14 All other Questa
Only(!!!) problem 2p Walsall and Questa

C2 Photo
All 15x14
C2a Chalk paper with bands
C2b Phosphor paper, no bands
C2c Ordinary paper – 50 & 75p only
C2d Ordinary or phosphor paper 50p only

D - My catalog not up to date
There are now five printers – Harrison, Walsall, Enschede, De La Rue, and Questa
All are 15x14. Different elliptical perf shapes (have not seen a study).

D1 Photo – 60p had not been issued in photo, all other values, yes.
By far the more numerous in terms of face values.
Subdivide on basis of band number and location

D2 Litho - 1,6,10,19,20,25,26,30,35,37,41,60,63 (when my catalog printed)

D3 Engraved £1.50 to £5 either Enchede or more recently De La Rue.

H1 Photo Harrison 15x14
H2 Litho Walsall x14
H3 Litho Questa 15x14
Also elliptical perfs and self-adhesives

(litho sharp value and borders, photo fuzzy values and “broken coil” edges under high mag.)
 


 

June 20, 2003 4.35 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

Mystery bidding....
I may be missing something but why would this 25c cat value stamp be going for $11 ???

This stamp.


 

June 20, 2003 3:19 pm Bob in WA


George -- You and I use the same meanings; "mint" and "unused" implying with and without gum, possibly hinged or not. I do agree that "as issued" after NG does enhamce it a bit. I really like your idea of checking boxes to clarify. They need to do the same with shipping information. Both are too practical for eBay to implement.

hobbes -- Sorry to hear about the suspension. I would hope they would understand your explanatory apology and rescind with a good laugh. They've probably received many such responses to legitimate eBay communications. (Geez, it's gotten so bad eBay needs to figure out how to make their emails distinguishable from all the phoney ones??) I've heard that it's best not to reply, tempting as it is to rip into them, because some of those messages might contain trojans or viruses waiting for you to open the door. Some people copy the addresses and then go to a library or internet cafe to post their responses, safe from any connection with the computer at home.


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
I had thought about it.
Unfortunately it is one of those areas where there are too many collectors, too few stamps, and too many forgeries.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, the sheets were large and presumably the name forme was either in a row of 10 (or 2 rows or more at a time) or in some sort of block form such as 5 x 5 which would print the name on the stamps but would require many impressions of the forme. It would be easier to handle than a complete forme. I have never seen a collection which differentiated between the various impressions and maybe you should start one with your Mayotte, only problem is availibility of material.

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


Io, I don't know if the plates for the names on the Tablets were reassembled into the formes when required but presume they were. Quokka may know more as he is into Indo China and may have blocks. If they were then there would be many variants such as broken type, mis formed letters etc. It is a huge field that is ignored as large multiples are seldom found.

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
Sorry my misdescription.
Should have read more like typewritten on the stamps.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, they weren't embossed, they are heavier impressions of the printing of the type that was used. Embossing needs male and female dies,

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
While your still there, were the country names of the french colonies ever legitimately embossed onto the stamp?
The lower left stamp of the Reunion ones I put up can be read from the back of the stamp becase of the embossing.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, thinking deep down, I seem to recall seeing some of those on a grayish paper once a long, long time ago. Maybe they are the originals and all the others on white are reprints. The white paper are still available in sheet form with a printed cancel.

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, the German translates to Gray or White, possibly those Telegraph also come on both papers but I haven't got a clue,

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
I did.
Thought that the safest solution.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, I think those Tangiers are still being printed today and can come on any paper you want. There may be an easy way to find out what he wants, ask him.

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 sveiki!


hobbes9324 So, that's how to get an account closed?! *hehe* Have to keep that in mind, even though there is an official way of closing an account. {;o)


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
Are you sure the Tangier didn't come on different papers?
What you say makes sense (somewhat).


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


IO, I think I have figured it out, he pressed on your wrong lot to ask the question but wants to know if the Chile is on Blued or White,

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 204 hobbes9324 <hobbes9324@aol.com>

NARU'ed
LOL - got suspended by Ebay today - I got what I assumed was yet another scam E-mail requesting a reply stating my accout had been suspended for improper contact info. As an old timer, my Ebay name is my E-mail address - I don't think they let you do that anymore - and I get at least one a week. Fortunatly, I only made a mildly obscene reply - sometimes, especially if it's been a hard day at the ER, I vent on the scammers with suggestions involving their mothers, various barnyard animals, and activities that are physiologically impossible.

So, of course, this time it WAS really an E-mail from Ebay, and my account is suspended. Sent off a profuse apology, and the info requested - hope they let me out of jail.......

M Morkin
(hobbes9324@aol.com)


 

June 20, 2003 George K

stunning stuff12345
Michael Plotnick:

A couple months ago I caught this seller trying to pawn off a number of altered pcheltenham stamps (clipped #36, perfed 15ct banknote proof, etc) as genuine pristine items and as part of an intact "estate collection", which inluded a few cigar boxes full of stamps and some albums. The story was patently and verifiably false, since I had the pictures of the stamps before and after. He pulled the lot after I threatened to report him to eBay, saying he bought the stamps from pcheltenham in good faith. Apparently he didn't catch on that I was accusing him of not SELLING in good faith, because of his phony tale.

In addition at that same time he was selling "one man's lifetime collection" that the collector just happened to store in 40 cigar boxes (Riiiiggghhhtt). A quick look at his other auctions showed a number of "surprise" lots with cigar boxes full of stamps.

Then I looked at his buying habits. All he bought were big accumulations of junk stamps for peanuts, and LOTS and LOTS of...........cigar boxes. You don't even need a calculator to put that two and two together.

People like Greg St...excuse me, pcheltenham, and schuylerac, have made every two-bit con artist out there think that it is OK to outright lie about the provenance and condition and identity of what they are selling. After all, it's just stamp collectors (sneer). It will be a long time before this can ever be cleaned up.


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


I need help, can someone make sense of this?

Subject: Fragen fuer den Verkaeufer - Artikelnummer 2935862963 View Full Header
View Printable Version
From: frigga19@t-online.de
Date: Fri, June 20, 2003 3:26 pm
To: jlwstark@overland.net
Priority: Normal



Which color has the paper? ?? dawns or knows
Greetings Rolf

Welche Farbe hat das Papier? grau oder weiß??
--------------------


 


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Ed
I'm in Yankee land till August.


 

June 20, 2003 George K

MNH
Bob in WA:

As you know, I peruse the US classics every day while strolling down the venue, and I can tell you this - MANY sellers say "never hinged" on USED stamps, and others use "mint" when there is no gum. I thought that "mint" was supposed to mean not used with OG (hinged or not), and "unused" was supposed to be not used, no gum. The terminology is very polluted at this point because of newbie sellers and fakers and unethical sellers.

I would suggest that the venue implement a method like Yahoo's little check-off box but expanded, to be part of each lot.

Unused or used (check one). Hinged or never hinged (check one). Gum (yes or no), etc, etc. Then even novices can provide the proper information. A narrative description could also be added so the seller could still tell his/her BS story, of course.


 

June 20, 2003 1:30PM Bill Weiss

#546
GEORGE K.; While the color and impression of this stamp are OK, I don't like the overall size of the stamp (too small). I am also very wary of bidding on ANY stamp on ebay that can not be verified fairly easily. In this case, one would need to be able to measure the size of the design to determine if it's a rotary press stamp, then check for reperfing which is most difficult to do from such a scan. My best advice is do not bid on such questionable items UNLESS the seller is one who says something like "we accept returns for any reason within X number of days" plus states good credentials, such as society memberships, etc., although being a member of societies doesn't preclude someone from trying to sell misdescribed stamps! In my opinion, buying stamps without ironclad assurances that you can get a refund if found through expertization to be not as described, is committing suicide with your money. Why not email the seller and ask him what his policy is for extensions for expertization? My guess is that he will tell you either A. He doesn't allow them or B. He allows them but won't refund the cost if found to be not as described (which means you get the priviledge of spending $30-40. to find out the item is not as described!).


 

June 20, 2003 George K

riny218 at it again
2936133751 is just a typical sample of ALL his bulk lots.

For a BIN of only $377, you too can own the following - 233a, 10X1 (pair), 317, 331b, 333a, 336a, 337a, 338a, 366, 356, 388, 544, and an assortment of additional rarities with a combined CV of nearly $40,000. And that doesn't include a couple of pages of junky BOB either.

I am afraid I don't buy his "honest guy who is trying hard to learn" crap, since we have been trying to educate him for years and he keeps pulling the same exact tricks.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


Chuck, have you checked with the seller to verify it is watermarked CC. I abhor descriptions that just state catalogue numbers without making a statement as to perf. watermark, color, whatever, when there are many variants.

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 George K

2936093279 a supposed 546
Can I get either reperf or Bill W or someone else to check this lot, please? I don't really know the difference but I get real suspicious when a stamp has the perfs almost cutting into the design on all 4 sides. Thanks.


 

June 20, 2003 Chuck Harm


Dave,

Thanks. Yeah it is the CC wmk, but I was just gicing the auction title actually. Is there anything that you are not an expert on;-) How about you listing some earlier Lauan stuff so I don't have to worry about the seller?


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


Chuck, re the Labuan, have no idea what a Scott's 8 is but presume it is watermark CC. The bars were also used for normal cancel and that looks like a proper usage althought the red mark may have been added later. The 1st. thing I would do is verify that it has a Crown CC watermark. If yes then presumably OK,

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

Pet peave of the day - or just ranting
Sellers who say they ship on certain days, in this case Saturdays, only, which is fine. The item I won ended on a Saturday, early enough I thought, for the seller to get it off. I paid with Paypal within minutes of the auction ending. Now, it's looking like I may be waiting 2 weeks for the item. So much for paying fast, and hoping they mean that they will ship the first available Saturday, instead of the following Saturday.


 

June 20, 2003 12:07 Bob in WA

MNH
Over the years I've seen the word "mint" used casually to mean "not used" and have learned that to many it may not imply "post office fresh" even though technically it should. "Never hinged" however, DEFINITELY implies the presence of gum, because no gum stamps can be washed free of any old hinge marks without harm, so the term is meaningless. I mean, when is the last time you saw "hinged, no gum" in a description? I'd push hardest on the "never hinged" part of the description as the basis of misrepresentation. Hope it can get ironed out without the negs flying.


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Frajola


Whirling Logs Is the name I use for the design used by Native Americans such as on this Navajo rug that dates ca. 1915. The lines at edge of cross are reversed from normal swastika I think.

Funny thing is that the design is probably not indigenious to Native Americans - just like the "thunderbird" - the Navajo weavers were given design to duplicate and the design was associated with Indians by Anglos even though probably not used by the Indians themselves.


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


It looks like you could put an interesting collection together, comprised of items with a non-Nazi related swastika symbol on them.

Brian - Seems kind of stupid to me. Doesn't that mean that they will essentially be paying higher final value fees? Of course I guess it don't really matter, junk is junk, no matter if you get it for a 10% discount or not.


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

Re: NHM
orthopteran, I've never seen "NHM" used in the U.S. to described stamps - it's always "MNH" in that order.
 

I quote Scott's U.S. catalog: "Never Hinged (NH; **): A never-hinged stamp will have full original gum that will have no hinge mark or disturbance. The presence of an expertizer's mark does not disqualify a stamp from this designation".
 

I believe that even a stamp issued without gum cannot be described as "NH" - it's required to be described as "MNG", although it's usually followed with "(as issued)".
 

Jim



 

June 20, 2003 Brian R(briguy)

new scam?
Has anyone else noticed that Riny 218 has added the following to all their descriptions?

SALE! Starting June 4th through July 4th there will be a 10% discount off all ebay lots offered by us to our customers.

I'm sure their customers will be thrilled, to find out that they've payed only 90% too much, for misdescribed forgeries.

Yes I'm aware that that math doesn't make sense, just like the offer.


 

June 20, 2003 11.21 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 


Paolo - CYE!! :O)

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 20, 2003 Brian R

swastikas
I think the swastika was part of the cachet design of early US airmail envelopes. Pretty much ended when a certain paperhanger adopted the symbol as his own.

Here's an ebay auction for a advertising envelope from a US bank,my guess is they're using a different logo nowdays


 

June 20, 2003 1855 BST Ed.B


iomoon:

Hi Jim,

just found some US mint which is good for postage. Have some other bit's and pieces also. Which address are you at for the next ten days. North or South?

Ed


 

June 20, 2003 Dave P orthorpteran

Swastika
It is not just native Americans who used the Swastika. It has been used in many religions for thousands of years and is found in both versions going back to at least 1000BC. Oddly "Swastika" derives from the Indian name for the symbol, in the UK is is associated with many Celtic artefacts, and is particularly prevalent in Ireland. If you look around you can still find the symbol in all sorts of places, even in some old synagogues, and I am told that in the US it forms part of the decoration of the Capitol Building - but that may be a myth!


 

June 20, 2003 Brian R


noip There is (or was) a town in Ontario, Canada, named swastika.


 

June 20, 2003 10.35 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
 

Beanie baby catalogues!
Iomoon

You are right about the Sakura Japan catalogue. At first I used it in conjunction with Gibbons who give the different perforations of the earlier issues, which Sakura doesn’t. I bought the JSDA about a year ago and they have even more details about the shades of the earlier issues, Chrysanthemums etc.
But as you say, Sakura splits issues into definitives, specials, N Parks, New year etc and it takes a bit of getting used to.

How many packets of beanie babies do you get through a day?

Dave Orthorpteran

It seems that seller is making up his own meanings for traditionally accepted abbreviations. MNH must be in its original condition, and if that was with gum MNH must have gum. But I do not know of anywhere the initials are actually officially defined.

Colin
 


 

June 20, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Hi Mauro M.
Well, there's one already! I just announced I was going to sleep in a more pompous way than usual :-)
Ciao,
Paolo
 


 

June 20, 2003 Chuck Harm <macalusoharm@sprintmail.com>

Labuan stamp
All,

I have a couple questions about this stamp ebay#2936097934 Labuan 8.
Is the barred killer cancel a postal cancel. I associate it with CTO for Labuan and North Borneo.
Is the red "8" in the lower right significant?
And is it safe to do business with this dealer? I have notified him of misidentification and gotten no response and no change in the auction.

Thanks.


 

June 20, 2003 nomad55


Prometheus.....very pleasing visually.

Richard B....Yes the arms point the opposite way. I have indian beadwork with the swastika incorporated into the design. The German version was always inside a circle, and rotated 45 degrees.


 

June 20, 2003 Prometheus

MY Catch of the Day
Decided to go to the rainy outdoor Flea Market this morning
Found this little POSTAL
Love the Cancel
Neat Huh??


 

June 20, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)

NHM
With respect to stamps I have always understood that "mint" means condition as issued, NHM if not hinged, MM if previously mounted, a stamp without gum (except for the very few issued that way) can never be mint, it is unused - or am I being old-fashioned about this?


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


nomad - Wow, so many things I didn't know. But isn't the Nazi version of the Swastika suppose to be a mirror image of the American Indian version, which would have the arms of the design pointing in a CCW direction? This is what I've heard, but may have been a total fabrication.


 

June 20, 2003 9:41:53 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

And the fleet sails in!
David, you don't think we'd let all those sailors loose on the US without letting them blow off steam in some unimportant place in the world first, do you? :-)


 

June 20, 2003 nomad55


Richard B....it could be. There was a town named Swastika (Kentucky??) and this might be a stamp soaked off a registered cover postmarked there. In the late 20's and early 30's, many small towns used fancy pictorial cancels on registered mail for collectors. The swastika emblem predates nazi Germany, and was an American Indian good luck symbol.


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Is THIS a U.S. cancel??


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
How dare you attack beanie baby sellers!!
Some of my best friends sell beanie babies!!

:-Þ


 

June 20, 2003 08:41 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

MNH No Gum
Michael You and I know what MNH means. A seller of beanie babies or other collectibles may not know. After all, MNH has no direct reference to actual gum in the words. THe seller never said OG. Therefore, you are technically and legally correct, but a stubborn and uninformed seller may not want to accept the industry standards. Good luck in your battle, as it looks like it will be a battle. You are correct about the facts, let's hope the sellers can be more educated and ethical.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 20, 2003 08.19 Knud-Erik (knuden)


Sveiki - Det ser ud som om jeg gik glip af alt de "sjove" - hvad gik det ud på?

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
 

E-bay Fraud reply
Michael.
If a stamp has no gum it should be described as such ( Mint NG or MNG ). To me and probably 99% of the people that read this board, Mint NH means that it has full gum, untouched by any hinges. I would try and get the guy to refund you fully ( he should do with just a single stamp ). If he won't do that then yes, I would NEG him ( but not before you have exhausted the return avenue ). I don't think you'll have any recourse through Citibank as you still have the stamp. However, if you return it to him with Delivery Confirmation ( and insure it ) to prove he receives it, regardless of whether he has agreed to a return, then you may well be able to do a refund through the card. If you paid by Paypal you MUST file with them first, even though they will not be able to do anything.

Hope this helps.
Mark.


 

June 20, 2003 sveiki!


knuden Hej! {:o) jeg tror ikke min dobbeltgænger kan tale dansk, så det sprog svarer jeg dig på lige nu. *hehe*
Der var Gud hjælpe mig en spasser, som skrev åndssvage ting her på chatten med mit navn. Velkommen tilbage til dig, Knud-Erik! {:o)


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Michael
Either your seller has been NARU'd or changed their ID.


 

June 20, 2003 07.53 Knud-Erik (knuden)


Sveiki -Daws Paul. :O) I hope all is well.

 

K.E.  


 


 

June 20, 2003 sveiki!

Good Morning/Day/Evening/Afternoon!
Must admit that I've got more than one eBay chat ID. *hehe* {:o)


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Thanks Paul.

Michael
If a stamp has no gum, there is no way to tell if it was never hinged.
Therefore seller is engaging in false advertizing.
Stamp, at best, is mint hinged.
Give him a neg.


 

June 20, 2003 7:30 michael plotnick <mipcitr@aol.com>

e-bay fraud
I purchased a #112 listed as MINT/NH for $95 (total 102.50) with shipping and insurance. The stamp had NO GUM AT ALL. The seller claimed he didn't describe the gum and it was my fault; i thought he was simply misinformed and e-mailed back(initially) a series of educational statements while also requesting return. He first asked what its value was, then asked to make deals the n became belligerant when i clearly stated i would leave neg. feedback if he didn't accept responsibility. he is a power seller and e-bay seems not to care at all. The seller is "stunningstamps12345". I am pusuing the problem via citibank mastercard. paypal does not seem to care at all. I have his address and other info. please advise.
Thanks, michael plotnick MIPCITR@aol.com


 

June 20, 2003 7.22am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>

June and July
I had a quick look through my holdings of French colonial covers and found that June was always "Juin" and July was "Juil" except for one cover which had "Jul". There was no "Jui". I have never seen a "Jui" in a French colonial postmark.
 

Paul


 

June 20, 2003 7:15 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

CSA Altered Plates
I to would like to thank John Kimbrough for his very informative posts on the CSA altered plates. I hope he continues to add his comments to this board. And to everyone that shares their knowledge with others via this forum, a very sincere "Thank You".


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 

juin, june, juillet, july
I agree!!
So what are the french abbreviations for June and July?


 

June 20, 2003 triangle and palindrome collector: Maarten Willems

JUNE, JUIN or JULY
I'm afraid I have to disagree with io Jim (with pain in my heart) and agree with David B but for a different reason: symmetry. Suppose it is JUI 5. In that case with a number of 10 or higher it would need 5 places, for example JUI23, and the cancellation needs to extend to the right and become highly asymmetrical. With these kind of date cancellations that somehow seems unlikely. Just my 1/2 eurocent of wisdom.


 

June 20, 2003 Richard Frajola


I just found an "Authenticity Disclaimer" notice on PAYPAL site here. I think this is roughly the same as what ebay says. Just maybe paypal will enforce it better. Sounds like after a few complaints thay might close a seller's paypal account. I wonder ....


 

June 20, 2003 616 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>

Bogus/fake/Scam Discussion tidbits
Frontpiece From Old Book NOPHOTO they used to worry about reproducing images

NIGERIAN EMAIL Type scam -related- the Olde 1877 "mystery Mine #1 Post Card " So it seems no matter how the abilty to spread your selfish games changes the Ones who do it have always been doing it
In all fields of Collecting/hobby
Nice Card DEADWOODintheWildernessSD77


 

June 20, 2003 06.13 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 

Howdy!
 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

I have just spent the last days installing Win XP and are now trying to get used to it! :O)


 

K.E. 


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Colin & Dave

Spent a large part of yesterday reading through the Sakura catalog.
Its truly amazing how much stuff Scott leaves out.
The color pictures in Sakura make it easier to understand than the JSDA catalog though now I think I can figure out how the Japanese classify their stamps, the use of the latter should be much easier.


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Lawler

Indypex
Hopefully this is easier for you to read and the link shows up


 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming.
:8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)


Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. Would any of you want to get together for lunch on Friday? I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap) places within walking distance.


Jim L.
 


 

June 20, 2003 Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>

Indypex
 

INDYPEX 2003

is coming. :8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

 

I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. Would any of you want to get together for lunch on Friday? I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap) places within walking distance.


Jim L.
 


 

June 20, 2003 Icecone Viking <you_know_who@upnorth.com>


Bill Weiss That's exactly the reason why I've got multiple eBay ID's - as my mother, brothers, aunts that live abroad and my off-shore businesses has. That's when Mailboxes Etc. come in handy.

Once, I won this eBay auction of a pompous ass seller. It's incredible how much BS a seller is able to put in writing during an e-mail correspondence. Essence of the correspondence was: Seller is always right, buyer is a jackass. Seller overdid everything promised during the BS correspondence just to "please" me. My reaction was to see if seller really renders all of these services to any buyer. Used an overseas ID to check it out. What a disappointment! Not even right change to a cash transaction - no change in fact. So much for auction description/e-mail correspondence BS.

Since then I have not bothered to read all of the post mortem crap sellers give me. IMHO buyer is always right (it's sellers job to convince buyer he's right). My advice to you: Block that seller from your searches and move on!


 

June 20, 2003 03:40 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a cover from the Philippines to Germany in 1933. This one took 8 stamps and $1.14 in postage.

Bill W.,
One of the elements of eBay which we miss by being involved in a 'Stamps' chat board is the passion and diligence of other collectors. When the 'Cafe' was the only board, it was interesting to see the knowledge and passion of the other collectors. Does anyone here pursue vaseline glass?

David B.,
Thanks for the URL. I'll see if it leads me anywhere regarding the Malta cover. There might be some way to learn more concerning the cover.


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


and more of them,

http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/2003/06/20/1055828478410.html

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson

Help, we've been invaded
If at 1st. you don't succeed, give up,

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/20/1055828472073.html

David Benson


 

June 20, 2003 David Benson


Help,

we\'ve been invaded

David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 ?


...


 

June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Bill W - Your concern about possible sellers monitoring these boards seems logical and I wouldn't doubt it happens. There may even be troublemakers lurking who would be willing to "inform" sellers of what is being talked about.


 

June 19, 2003 anne


Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of Y palindromes (oops--mean chromosomes--these aren't Ys but they'll have to do), lots for rodents, and TGIF tomorrow. Anne


 

June 19, 2003 Bill Weiss

Rebacked?
To Ferd W., no I do not believe this is rebacked. It is, in my opinion, a left pane-divider copy with a natural straightedge. It might even be the lower left corner copy from the sheet (Position 90) but that's difficult to tell. It certainly does not meet the definition of a "Jumbo" by usual standards. What it is, is a perf shift, and for that, it's a nice example, especially being a position piece, but I don't think it's worth more than the current price - maybe another $10. or so, but that's all. To bed for me.


 

June 19, 2003 David Benson


Jim, it came from here,

http://www.harmers.com/cat%20archive/W4687/ar46877.htm

I presumed it had originated in North Afica, either Algeria, Tunisia or Libya. The covers must have had a return address of Tripoli on the flap. Tripoli had a Turkish (seldom used), French and Italian PO's. I doubt they had any PO markings on the reverse or Harmers would have described them.

David Benson
 


 

June 19, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss

SUGARMOMMA
I want to thank all of the members of the two chat boards who responded to my question about this seller, who from all accounts is a good and decent fellow.
For reasaons unknown to me, he recently blocked me from bidding on his ebay lots. I bought ONE cover from him a few weeks ago for $5.99, and other than that, I do not believe I have ever had any other contact with him. I have sent him 3 emails asking him why he is blocking me, and he has not answered any of them.
I'm sure there are those of you, particularly sellers, who would argue anyone's right to block a bidder, but I would argue strongly, that without JUST CAUSE no-one should be able to block someone from bidding. I have no problem if there is a legitimate reason, or even ANY reason, even if arbitrary, but I have a big problem with it when the seller refuses to acknowledge his reason(s) for his action.
My strong feelings abouit this trascend just the minor inconvenience of the blocking action. It's a hell of a way to treat your fellow human being, and the least you can do is step up to the plate and state your reason, not hide behind ebay's policy allowing you free reign to block anyone you please. It's kind of like a little kid who can't get his way, so he slaps his buddy in the mouth and then runs off before the buddy can defend himself.
I'll certainly live without Sugarmomma's cheap/faulty covers, and apparently he has no problem living with his undefended actions. End of story here, but I'm seriously considering filing a formal complaint against him with APS for "conduct unbecoming a member" only because I know damn well they will ask him to state his reason(s) for his action and then perhaps the truth might come out.
The other concern I have here is whether there are sellers out there who somehow gain access to these chatrooms and then sit back quietly and read what we talk about, then decide to block folks who they can see would be difficult to fool, before they have a chance to hurt them financially through justified returns, etc. Just a thought, but it seems awfully strange that I would get blocked by someone who I do not know for no apparent reason. Done for the night.


 

June 19, 2003 20:20 FERD W.

REBACKED ??
I am a lurker unable to "link". Ebay # 2935355521 appears to me to have a rebacked left margin ! Would appreciate any opinion of better students!! Thanks, FW


 

June 19, 2003 8:11PM Bill Weiss

Longaberger Basket
My best guess is that these damn baskets are just so popular it doesn't matter what catagory they try to sell them in! Seriously, lots of folks go nuts for these things, including my Mrs. If you would have told me five years ago that I would tour a Longaberger Basket store, I would have told you you were crazy, but I did just that a few months ago. I have no love for them, but conversely, the Mrs has no love for these little pieces of paper we so adore.


 

June 19, 2003 8:12pm PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com> http://www.csastamps.com
 


 

Prometheous and all the others -- Thank you very much for your kind words. I know that I sometimes tend toward verbosity when I am talking about my favorite subject, Confederate Philately. I will confine future posts to specific topics under discussion or answers to specific questions.

 

Brain R -- I am glad to hear that my little postings have spurred your interest in Confederate collecting. I do remember seeing the item to which you refer, but it has been some time ago. I am not absolutely certain, but I believe that it was taken indirectly from the Columbus Block as were so many similar items of years past. By "taken indirectly" I mean using a photographic reproduction of the impressions rather than taking a printing directly from the plate itself. The technique was undoubtedly somewhat cumbersome and of variable quality, but they were doing such things well before home computers. I do know Kevin Baker as he is the current Secrectary of the Confederate Stamp Alliance.

 

John L. Kimbrough


 

June 19, 2003 Now Chris manos-the-hands-of-fate.com
 


Evening all.
Still working on Colombia.
After that still a mess of albums to do inventory on.

Chris - remember Carcossa


 

June 19, 2003 20:04 Jim Watson


David B.,
That information on Tripoli de Barbarie mail passing through Malta is intriguing. I'll try to search the net for the info. If you have the link, I'd appreciate it. TIA.

Coverwiz
I'm sure you're right about the power of search. It's amazing the effort some people apply in ferreting out misplaced and misspelled items.


 

June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Anyone familiar with THIS?


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


John Kimbrough

Fascinating little piece of history.
Much appreciate your time and effort in presenting it.


 

June 19, 2003 06:18 PM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>


John
I really enjoy those kind of posts. Wish I had the time to do some about Indiana Precancels.

Jim L.


 

June 19, 2003 coverwiz

Hamper lot in Postal History
The power of search -- brand name....


 

June 19, 2003 Brian R

altered plates
Fascinating! I never knew the full scope of the story around those plates. I've always assumed the impressions on the sheets of twenty five were comming from and origional section of the plate. Only now, do I know, that they are duplicate impressions of the same position. Proof positive, that people have been doing this sort of thing, long before the clown in Florida discovered computers, color copiers, and a stock of A4 paper!

I'm interestesed enough, I may get a couple of the Dietz 2c, for reference, even if it violates my "no fakes" personal vow. I hope it doesn't lead to a full blown case of CSA fakes/reprints/bogus issues collecting madness. Mr. Kimbrough, I thinkyou should be the one to explain to Kevin Baker what happened if I start bidding against him. LOL

Seriously, I thank you, for your posts. They've been quite informative for me, and I suspect several others here, who have some CSA interest. Right now I'm going to find an old glassine, that I have, with some of the 10c blocks in it, for a closer look. I assume that if from the constructed section they will exibit a sameness in plate flaws, a difference, if they came from one of the blocks of nine. Uh-oh...I think I'm slipping already.

Brian

P.S. I sometimes see a rather humorous block of 9, printed in the 30's, by a philatelic group, to resemble a mock Farly souvenir sheet. Some of the wording is to the effect of "the post office department of the deficit" Did those images origionate from a section of the altered plate? I've always been tempted to get one of those just for the shtick value alone.


 

June 19, 2003 17:43 Jim Watson


Noip
Can anyone explain why this target=blank>one is doing so well in Stamps:Other World:Postal History?

John K.,
Thanks for the informative posts.


 

June 19, 2003 David Benson


I found this on the web, from an old Harmers London 2000 catalogue,
Libya, Italian Post Offices. 1880 envelope to Livorno franked Italy 1879 20c., cancelled Malta "A25" duplex in transit, arrival datestamp on reverse, fine. Also envelope to Paris franked France Sage 15c. cancelled Malta "A25" barred oval in transit, both originating from Tripoli de Barbarie estimated £250

I don't know the realisation but the French Sage cover is most probably from a similar origin.

David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Paolo B:
Re: "Annuntio vobis magnum gaudium"
My question is: Habemus Papam?
Ciao!
Mauro


 

June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>

June 15 letter
Thank you both Jims and David It took be several visits but it finally became clear that I was doing a bit of mental addition. Indeed I was making the left leg of the ‘N’ from the right upstroke of the ‘U’ and then making something that may or may not be there into the connecting stroke of the ‘N’. I had just concluded that the ‘1' and ‘5' were misaligned when David indicated this. It was nice to get confirmation. It was nice to see someone’s idea of the value of cover. I did notice that he had not found anyone who agreed enough with him to take it off his hands.
 


 

June 19, 2003 Prometheus

John L. Kimbrough = Thanks
Please post any Info as detailed as your previous posts
as a person Fairly new to Stamp Collecting and the owner of a couple of CSA stamps, 2 covers and a set of the Facsimiles .
I think your info is fantastic The Knowledge available here on this Board astouds me every day.


 

June 19, 2003 16:32:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
Hmm, yet the purple is the most expensive one... If it's genuine, that might make it almost worth keeping the lot. I'd have two different reference fakes and the toughest one to find genuine covered.


 

June 19, 2003 Prometheus

John Gordon = Thanks
Thanks for the valuation listing Now Does anyone know whats in the book Knowledge wise. ??


 

June 19, 2003 David Benson


Bill, had to rush my post as I was leaving to take my daughter to school, of course I meant the 2 on right are bad (Red and Green), the Purple looks OK.
David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 4:15pm PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com> http://www.csastamps.com
 

CSA 10c Altered Plate
For Brian R and anyone else who might be interested, here is the story of the CSA 10c Altered Plate.

 

Last night I posted the outline story of the CSA 2c Altered Plate. In response to several requests, I will focus today on the 10c Altered Plate as the story of this plate is far different and much more complex.

 

It was at first universally accepted that the alterations for the 10c Altered Plate were performed by Archer & Daly in Richmond, Va. It was not until the discovery intact of the 2c Altered Plate by August Dietz in 1926 that the full story of these plates became known, and it was proven that both the altered plates were constructed by De La Rue in London.

 

The 10c Altered Plate was shipped from London to the Confederacy through the blockade arriving in Richmond probably sometime in early 1863. It is not recorded exactly when the 10c Altered Plate reached Richmond, but we do know that the construction of both plates was completed by November 1862. But the 10c Altered Plate was never used by the CSA. There is no evidence that the CSA ever printed any stamps from this plate. August Dietz did state in 1929 that he had a proof sheet of 100 from the 10c Altered Plate. It is unclear if this proof sheet was taken in London or in Richmond but he implied that it was taken in Richmond. In any case, the proof sheet listed by Dietz in 1929 has disappeared. As to why the plate was never used, we can only speculate that the CSA Postmaster General, John H. Reagan, shelved the plate because the CSA engraved stamps were already in production by the Spring of 1863. PG Reagan was committed to the use of engraved stamps and very probably did not want to print and release any further stamps that were not engraved. The 10c Altered Plate is a typograph plate and is not engraved.

 

With the Fall of Richmond in early April 1865, the 10c Altered Plate was looted by Union soldiers and cut into sections. The story is told that a Hospital Steward named Richard Glenn of the 95th Ohio Regt came into possession of the plate. It is not clear if Glenn had the entire plate or only one section of the plate as the full original plate was 400 subjects divided into 4 panes of 100. In any case, Glenn apparently cut up one Pane of 100 into two
Blocks of 9, and a Block of 70. The remaining 12 stamps from the pane were either left as a block or further cut into smaller blocks or singles and have been lost.

 

One Block of 9 found its way to Glenn’s sister, a Mrs. Anthony, in Baltimore, Md. This block has come to be known as the “Baltimore” Block. This particular block has been used for some private printings in the past, but not many. I do not know where the block is today but can only assume that it still exits and remains in private hands.

 

The second Block of 9 is very well known and is designated the “Columbus” Block as it currently resides at the Ohio State Museum in Columbus, Ohio. The block has been used numerous times for private printings and souvenir sheets often associated through the years with various philatelic events in the area. I have not as yet been to Columbus, but I am told that the printing block is on display for all to see.

 

The large Block of 70 first came to light in 1888 when a sheet in blue printed from this block surfaced with an advertisement for an Atlanta bookseller on the back. Since then it has been known as the “Atlanta” Block. This block has been used numerous times for either direct or indirect private printings. One of the more famous is the Diamont Printing in 1896 when one W. H. Diamont ran off 500 sheets from this block in red, blue, and green. The initial impressions for the construction of the notorious New York Counterfeit printing plate were taken from the Atlanta Block. (As an aside, the New York Counterfeit has been attributed to Scott and it is widely believed that Scott was behind this 19th Century Scheme to defraud collectors into buying what they thought were genuine CSA stamps. However, in all fairness there is no concrete evidence to either confirm or refute Scott's participation in this sorry episode.) Again, I do not know where the Atlanta Printing Block is today but can only assume that it still exists in private hands.

 

A contrived Block of 25 was constructed from a single impression from the original plate. So any Sheetlets of 25 of the 10c Altered Plate stamp that are seen come from this contrived printing block.

 

Very recently, Leonard Hartmann of Louisville, Ky with some astounding philatelic detective work which he published in the journal of the US Philatelic Classics Society in 2001 was able to track down two additional large segments (both full panes of 100) from the original 10c Altered Plate. Both are in Chicago -- one with the Chicago Historical Society and the other owned by a private printing firm. Very few impressions were made from these two newly discovered segments of the original plate, and according to Mr. Hartmann none of the impressions are in collector's hands. That still leaves one segment (a Pane of 100) from the original plate that is unaccounted for and may yet one day be discovered.

 

That again in a nutshell is the story of the CSA 10c Altered Plate. There are numerous examples of the 10c altered stamp in a myriad of colors in existence related to the Columbus Block, the Atlanta Block, and the contrived Block of 25. Some of these printings are very well done, others are very crude. There are also numerous reproductions of the 10c Altered Plate as well. All of these examples today only really have a token value as a reference item. Since these printing segments are still in existence and in private hands, it is theoretically possible that more printings can be done at any time. Many times you will see these 10c and 2c altered stamps listed as Trial Colors, Proofs, Essays, Unissued CSA Stamps etc. That is pure poppycock as they are nothing of the sort. And such terms are very misleading. But it is probably done out of ignorance in not knowing the history of the items. My own feeling is that they are very simply best termed "Private Printings" and left at that.

 

This story also begs the question of what happened to the original plate that Archer & Daly used to print the 5c Blue Richmond Print (CSA #7) and the 1c Yellow-Orange (CSA #14) plate shipped by De La Rue to the CSA. The answer is that there is no record of the fate of these two plates. Most likely they were melted down after the war in order to reclaim the metal.

 

Columbus Block in Black 10c Altered Plate.

 

Cropped Block in black of the 2c Altered Plate from a full sheet of 100 from the 1926 Dietz Printing

 

Pair in Emerald Green of the 2c Altered Plate from the 1926 Dietz Printing

 

Again a very long post. But I hope that the board readers have found it to be of value.

 

John L. Kimbrough


 

June 19, 2003 16:12:10 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
David, I did a little quick image manipulation [5K] and am in complete agreement with your assessment. I've left an email to the seller...


 

June 19, 2003 dbenson


Bll, I am 97 1/2 % sure the 2 on the left are fake, and 99% sure the one on the right is OK. Extremely difficult stamps to verify. If Chris Ceremuga turns up he may have a better idea.

David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 15:51:40 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 

YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
These [50K] are examples of some of the overprints added to Bosnia & Herzegovina printed matter stamps for use as regular postage stamps by the new kingdom of S.H.S. in 1920. They are reasonably tough to get, so I tend to look at them closely. The middle stamp has a distinctly different shape to the '2' than the outer two. It also looks as if the leftmost one has the '2' slightly taller than the '2' on the rightmost one. Since the right side is cheap, and the other two expensive, I thought I'd ask if anyone know whether these are normal variations, or if the two expensive ones are forgeries. I can't find any references in my current library to tell me...


 

June 19, 2003 15.25 PDT John Gordon <johnr@castlemoyle.com> http://www.marianstamps.com
 

Old book about stamps
prometheus
I just checked Bookfinder for your book and it comes up ranging in price from US$13 to US$49.95. If my link above doesn't take you to the listing of the book, just go to bookfinder.com and search on Sigmund Rothschild. He appears to have written several other stamp books.

John


 

June 19, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Annuntio vobis magnum gaudium that I'm outta here
:-Þ Paolo


 

June 19, 2003 1511 Prometheus

Old book about stamps ??? NOIP
Is any one Famaliar with the Book by Sigmund Rothschild , Hard Back printed in 1930 "Stories Postage Stamps Tell, what we can learn from them "
One of my trading partners has a copy and wants to trade for some postcards I have. He has no scanner and limited English From what I gather it's by the originator of the learning game Philo and full of pictures and examples knowledge about stamps in 1930 .
Any comments would be thankfully recieved
He also wants to send me a like mint copy of scotts 1939 Catalog
The trade would be about 25 bucks from my end does this sound fair???


 

June 19, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia <bagaglia@wanadoo.nl>

Various
Knud-Erik
please, see your e-mail.
 

Paolo
 


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David
No one I know has ever condemned that seller for being cheap. :-Þ


Thanks for correction.
Good job I didn't mistakingly put it in Eddy 8.


 

June 19, 2003 David Benson


Jim, it is a normal duplex cancel, just the date slugs are slightly out of alignment. Interesting cover (but way, way overpriced). Looks like he is aiming for a Malta collector who is looking for unusual material and has deep pockets. There was a special box at the Port to handle incoming mail from ships and these received a boxed MB Malta marking, they are scarce and this one is most probably from a ship and cancelled when it got to the GPO.

David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 02:39 David Yaakola Or stampalbum123


Is stamp with the zorich cancel worth anything different? Someone wants to buy it from me. Just checking. Here.

David


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo
Jui is french for Juin, June.
But I'll defer to David.
However, there is an article entitled "the growth of the Malta Post office 1802-1886" implying something happened that year.


 

June 19, 2003 David Benson

How do you make a Maltese Cross
All Maltese postmarks used English spellings not French abbreviations. it is definitely June 15.

David Benson


 

June 19, 2003 14:20 Jim Watson


Io,
Nice find! If it's JUI as in French for July, how come the London Receiver is JU 21 and not JY 21?


 

June 19, 2003 14:15 Jim Watson


Io,
Here is a cover which has both the English (JY) and the French Version (JUIL) of July when used in postmarks. I checked a number of cover jpgs and JY was consistently used for July on British Empire covers and JUIL was used on French covers.


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo
Looking at the original, I'm pretty sure it's Jui 5.


 

June 19, 2003 12:56 Bob in WA

precognition
Ha, got ‘im by a NICKEL!


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Jimbo
Maybe the datestamp is Jui 5!!
I've forgotten french month abbreviations.


 

June 19, 2003 12:50 Bob in WA

Rat lot
Aside from the fact that the sum of the feedbacks for the three bids is zero, I see 2000 stamps for $50,000, which is $25 a stamp! I only looked at the beginning of the first pic as it started to load, and saw kiloware! Am I correct in assuming some more substantial stamps are depicted somewhere? Almost looks like pranksters having fun on eBay, the whole thing is so surreal.


 

June 19, 2003 the one and only triangle- Maarten Willems

Y-chromosome palindromes
David D - Thanks for the Y-chromosome story related to palindromes. Haven't heard it before. Certainly interesting from a scientific point of view, not sure about the philatelic opportunities. But you'll never know...........


 

June 19, 2003 12:32 Jim Watson


David D.,
Here is the least compressed version I have. It looks like JU 15 to me but it certainly won't be the first time I've been wrong (and not likely, the last!). One might get a JU 13 out of it. The CDS on the back of the cover has to share the left riser on the N with the right riser on the U to make it JUN 5. I think the confusion is just a paper discoloration or dirt.


 

June 19, 2003 12.07 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
 

A Rat and a Report?
Bill Claghorn

So what is this “Report” button for? Are you trying to start a trend, or is it an invitation? What would the eBay fees be for that huge lot from Turkey, and surely the listing fees would not be refunded if the lot was ended early, would they?

Colin


 

June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

a rat
Bill, Greg - Come on guys, you're too suspicious. I'm sure it's all on the up'n up.


 

June 19, 2003 Brian R

you say catalogue, I say catalog
Bill C. Your post makes perfect sense to me. Since I've started wandering, in the ebay european listings, I've discovered a personal demand for Michel.


 

June 19, 2003 10:47 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

A rat
Greg Maybe the high bidder will retract at the last minute and the seller will be stuck with high listing and final value fees.


 

June 19, 2003 10:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

A rat
Greg You know very well that eBay is based on trust in the community and that everyone is essentially honest! That is why someome from Turkey is selling a blind collection in Australian Dollars and the low bidder has (0) feedback and is from Turkey too. We all know that shilling is illegal in Turkey too.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 19, 2003 10.31 Greg Ioannou

A rat
Hmmm! I smell a RAT!


 

June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


Bob, hiya! - Glad you could use them. Thanks also to you for the neat commemoratives.


 

June 19, 2003 Bob Gioia <Crazystampbob@aol.com>


SPAIN: Glad I found you here, just wanted to thank you for those Barcelona Issues.


 

June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)


I can't believe people actually bid on THIS JUNK! What's amazing is that last week, 7 out of 7 items (Spanish "cinderellas") eneded without bids. He relists them and VOILA!, 4 out of 7 now have bids. I can't believe in that span of time 7 clueless people just happen to jump on board, or even that 1 clueless person with $$ to burn finds them. If his feedback wasn't private, and his bidders unlisted, me thinks you'd find some shenanigans going on. No other way to explain the 100% positive unless a related id is padding his feedback record.


 

June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>

Back to the June 15 cover
First, thank you to both Jims for your answers. I had thought of the Malta postmark as a transfer point to a British vessel. But in which case the Maltese postal officials had some problem with keeping their cancellers up-to-date or Jim Watson seems to have made a mistake in the June 15 posting date. The Malta date is clearly "June 5". I can not make out the dates on the French stamps. Do they settle the problem?


 

June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>

Maarten, start your search for a y chomosome on stamps
Have you seen the announcement that the Y chomosome is made up of many palindromes? It was thought that the Y chomosome was mainly filled with junk genes as they had no backup. It has been found that they have their own built in backup. The directions are written in, then repeated only backward. One gene is made up of over 30 million letters (that is in one direction).

Does that mean that males have a genetic liking for palindromes?


 

June 19, 2003 08:58 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Catalogs
IOmoon I just got the newsletter from the Western Philatelic Library. They had an article where there is a demand for Scott Catalogs from European stamp clubs (deciphering ebay listings of course). THey did an exchange where a member brought Scott catalogs to Europe and brought back European books. Maybe, when BillSey or someone goes to Europe they could do an exchange.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark <jlwstark6@aol.com>


David
Yes, I found it yesterday evening, my wife has a habit of placing things where I can't find them.
Unfortunately it only got the "vo" of volcano but the picture side established the provenance.

If anyone has a Michel South America (not too old, ie. post - 1990) they want to let go of reasonably cheaply, email me.


 

June 19, 2003 David D'


Jim W-S,
did my postcard from Vulcano ever make it to you? Did it receive a Vulcano postmark?


June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Paul

Nice pictures.

John

Interesting post, stamp postal history, as opposed to cover postal history, doesn't get much coverage.


 

June 19, 2003 04:46 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>


 

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all
 


Jim L.


 

June 19, 2003 04:06 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item are two more cards from Germany flown during the Air Mail Post Card Week in 1912.


 

June 19, 2003 sveiki!


See you all later, wont be on-line for at least 12 hours. {:o)


 

June 19, 2003 12.51am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>

Sugarmomma
Bill Weiss I bought two books from sugarmomma in February this year. They were slow getting to Australia but this was Snail Mail's fault rather than the seller's.
 

Paul


 

June 19, 2003 sveiki!


Dave Well, such adolescent behaviour is not going to scare me away. I'm 100% behind this project since I support and encourage any privately run initiatives supporting our little community of stamps chat regulars. {:o)


 

June 19, 2003 sveiki! <philaweb@yahoo.dk>

Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Back under my own nickname. {:o)

This new digital camera I've got is really a good investment. No waiting for paper prints. No excessive costs for photos not worth the paper they're printed on. Just click, click and upload.... {:o)

Here's the latest photoshoot. That's how our local community "centre" looks like. It's actually a shopping mall in connection to the local S-train station (suburban commuter trains).
The "centre" was planned, initiated during the 1960's (the station was opened 1965) and was at that point a grandious plan of creating an open air shopping mall. Actually, there are not many of those around due to our climate, weather.


 

June 19, 2003 23:16 Dave ("philatarium")


John:: Thanks very much for that great post. And a post is never too long if it's about learning. Please feel welcome and please comment anytime.

Sveiki! & others:I understand your concern. And to everyone, let's face it, this site requires some trust and maturity on the part of all participants. It's a shame that some people see anything that operates on the honor system as an opportunity to take advantage.

I've deliberately not deleted the frivolous posts, yet. That doesn't mean they won't get deleted. However, I felt the most provocative thing I could do would be to delete a scurrilous post close to the time that it was originally posted, because the poster is likely seeking some kind of response. For the most part, we have ignored these stealth posters, and they've gone away or at least receded into the background. But I do have the ultimate ability to just make the posts go away, and will use it if necessary. Let me say no more on this now, but, believe, I do understand.


 

June 19, 2003 Brian R

Welcome!
Hello John Since we're admitting to lurking, I'll have to fess up to frequently lurking through your website. I'm pleased to have this chance to say thanks for what is obviously a labor of love. I'm sure you don't mind that when people have specific questions I can't answer with a degree of accuracy(the Dietz die question here is a good example), I frequently direct them to your site.

I, for one, am quite interested in your post, as I now know the factual story behind the 2c altered plate. I got some of the highlights right, but boy did I screw up the dates, and prinicpals!

Anyhow, nice to see your post, and I hope they'll be more of them.

P.S. If you go back in the board archives a few days, a few, including myself, had some interesting rants about the pathetic fakes of the CSA #10 often found ebay. The links should be good for a few snickers.

Brian Reeves


 

June 18, 2003 22:24 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Fresno Society
Marius Here is the link to the Fresno Philatelic Society . They are very friendly and will be able to give your sister the info you need. Who knows, maybe they will help her to be a stamp collector too.

Forgery Identification Site


 

June 18, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)

sugarmomma
I too have purchased from them at least once that I know of. I can't recall exactly what I bought, but I also can't remember having any problems either, so...


 

June 18, 2003 9:00pm John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com> http://www.csastamps.com
 

CSA 2c Altered Plate
 

I do from time to time check the various boards to see what is happening, but I rarely post. I suppose you could call me simply a true lurker. But I noticed some posts about the Confederate 2c Altered Plate and the fact that there appears to be some confusion about the history of this plate. Perhaps I can clear things up a bit as the story of this plate and the stamps that were subsequently printed from this plate is truely fascinating but also extremely involved.

 

Thomas De La Rue and Co of London, England in early 1862 produced for the CSA government the 5c plates and the 1c plates (known today as Scott CSA #6 and CSA #14)when the CSA government requested plates in new 10c and 2c denominations. Time was of the essence, so De La Rue simply altered the value tablets of these two stamps and constructed new plates in the requested new denominations. The alteration was most likely done on an intermediate die which was then used to construct the new plates. The two new altered plates were finshed and ready by NOV 1862. The 10c Altered Plate was shipped to the Confedeacy but was never used. For the purpose of this posting I will only concentrate on the 2c Altered Plate and can post the story of the 10c altered plate later if anyone is interested. The 2c Altered Plate, however, never made it to Richmond and simply disappeared. No one really knows exactly what happened to it for all those intervening years until it was discovered entirely intact by August Dietz in Louisiana in 1926. Dietz surmised from his investigation that the plate instead of going through the blockade to Richmond was most likely taken off the ship somewhere at an intermediate point (most likely the Bahamas) and then somwhow made its way to Louisiana where it was ultimately found. Dietz managed to secure the plate at that time and immediately printed from the plate approximately 500 full sheets (4 panes of 100 per sheet) in a deep
emerald green color on a cream vellum paper. There is also a much smaller printing in black with an almost prooflike impression also done by Dietz at about the same time. The Emerald Green 2c Dietz Private Printings as they are so designated today are very
common. They can easily be found today as singles, blocks, gutter blocks and even full panes. So far as we know, these 1926 Dietz printings were the first stamps ever printed from the 2c Altered Plate. They really have only a small token retail value of about $2.00 per stamp at the present time. Dietz did another printing from the plate in 1955 in conjuction with the APS 1955 StampShow held that year in Norfolk, Va. The 1955 printings are in green, brown and orange. The green from the 1955 printing is distinctly different and of a much lower quality than the 1926 printing. Stamps from the 1955 printing are also very common.

Dietz retained ownership of the plate until his death in 1963. At that time, the plate passed from the Dietz estate to William G. Bogg, a noted Confederate collector and dealer and one of the publishers of the 1986 Dietz Catalog. It was Bill Bogg who had the plate set into a coffee table. Bill Bogg died in 1987. At his death, it passed from his estate into the hands of the current owner. I know the current owner of the plate and confirmed these details with him only fairly recently. The owner is a collector and has since removed the plate from the coffee table setting and it is mounted in his home as a hanging display even though the plate weighs approximately 90 pounds. The plate also currently has a crack in it. It is unlikely that it will ever be used again to print any further stamps at least not as long as the current owner retains possession.

 

That is a rather thumbnail sketch of the history of the 2c Altered Plate. I know the post is long, but I thought some of the board readers might like to know the story.

I do not often post on chat boards and this is my first posting here, but this is such a good board that I will lurk from time to time and would be most happy to answer any questions that may arise about Confederate Philately.

 

John L. Kimbrough


 

June 18, 2003 Marius http://www.boomspeed.com/stampmad/main_page.htm
 


Does anyone know of any dealers in the Frezno area. My sister and her family have moved there for 2 years and I have drummed her up on what to look for in regards to my collecting area.


 

June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

Dietz Catalog
Bill...Thanks, I'll order it from Jim. I've bought from him in the past. I just checked his latest catalog and he has the 1986 for $95.00. I may check the library, and make sure I'm serious about this first! ;-) Ken


 

June 18, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss

Dietz Catalog
KEN;
The newest Dietz catalog was published in 1986 and it does have a 14-page section titled "Fakes and Counterfeits". I don't think the 1959 Dietz had such a section but I may be wrong. The 1986 version should be available from any good literature dealer - I highly recommend Jim Lee in Illinois, but Bansner and Hartmann should also be able to help too.


 

June 18, 2003 anne


Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of volcanic images, Confederate philately, and a sunny day tomorrow (here in NJ I know that's only a dream) Anne


 

June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

CSA Facsimiles
Brian R...No problem, I knew the posts were for me. Thanks again. I think I may try my hand at putting together a small collection of those, and seeing how much I can learn in the process. There seem to be a lot of resources, including Kevin's site. And it looks like something I can, at least initially, afford. I always liked that period in American history so this would be fun as well. To get me started, I picked up this lot, since it appears to have more than just the Springfields.


Would you mind a couple more questions. I see Phil Bansner has a Dietz catalog up on eBay, but it's dated 1959. Is there a newer version? And do any of the versions discuss forgeries / facsimiles? I'm not really interested in the prices, so if the 1959 version contains the same basic info, I may try and pick that up. Thanks again for all the help. Ken


 

June 18, 2003 20:06 Dave ("philatarium") <dfrick@pacificanalytics.com>


Just another drive-by post to make sure everything is working here. I saw a message about someone not being able to bring up the board for a little while, and I had the same problem at that time, although it was a momentary problem. I also heard in an email from someone that a post they made took a while to show up. Has anyone else had problems recently?

On a slightly different note, what Bill Seymour referred to below was a suggestion he had made that a couple of you proved to be correct. Bill suggested that I insert some code at the beginning of each post that closes the bold , in case it's still open from the post ahead of it. I also did the same thing with the link tag . Today, we had proof that both worked, so congratulations, Bill! Great idea! (And I'll also take care of the italic and underline, too!)

It's been a much busier week than I was expecting, so I'll finish up on some of the other moderating duties a bit later. And I still owe a couple of you email replies.

Post on!


 

June 18, 2003 5:20 pm Bob in WA


Claghorn -- I've bought a few covers from Larry Mueller over the years, on eBay and at bourses. Nice covers and prices; I've been quite pleased. He seems a bit gruff in person. I'm never in a hurry and pay no attention to delivery times, (unless it's getting close to the 90-day deadline to post feedback :-) I think he had something to do with a big bruhaha at some Portland auction house, either Heinrich or McBride, some years back. I don't know any details, but know who to ask.


 

June 18, 2003 Richard Frajola


Brian A complete sheet of the "NY fakes" of CSA 5c can be seen here. It is believed that they were produced by JW Scott.


 

June 18, 2003 Brian R

KEN MICHAELIS
KEN My bad! My prior two posts (about the Dietz stamps) were ment for you.

Sorry, Prometheus.


 

June 18, 2003 16:20:17 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net> http://www.seymourfamily.com
 


Hey Dave! It worked. :-) [See Richard Matta post below] Now add the italics and underline, just in case...


 

June 18, 2003 David Benson


Prometheus, presumably posted on board a British ship and cancelled at the Naples Port PO., it is a Paquebot item without the usual handstamp.

David Benson


 

June 18, 2003 Brian R


BTW--prometheus--The part about "washed up on the shore" sounds like pure fantasy to me. The story I've heard, was the plate was found long after the war, in a dusty warehouse, somewhere. Certainly, more plusable than a gift from the sea.

Perhaps someone else here knows more details. Either way, the history involving the altered plates, sure is interesting though!


 

June 18, 2003 Prometheus

Napoli Cancel = DBenson + Paolo
Sorry posted that scan as I was leaving and didn't see that I failed to insert other scan of whole card My questions were raised By the Place it was going to USA So the question is Is it unusual for a Postcard Franked with a GB 1 penny Mailed from Porto Napoli to USA Boston reciver on Picture of Napoli.
Scan Of Card HERECARD
My Bad sorry


 

June 18, 2003 Brian R

Dietz die proof
Prometheus Your Dietz die stamp is know as one of the "altered plate" printings. When the war ended the plates for the CSA #6-7 and the unissued #14(1 cent calhoun) were found with the denominations changed to 10c and 2c respectively. Apparently, this was in anticipation of a rate change. The collaspe of the confederate armies on the battlefield, occured before any of the new stamps/rates occured. No actual stamps were ever printed by the CSA from them. At some time, the 2c Calhoun plate came into the possesion of August Dietz. In the late twenties he produced those stamps in the green shade for sale to CSA buffs. The act was not looked on favorablely by many CSA collectors and he stopped doing it. Lots of them were produced, but they still hold some value for colectors. Supposedly, the 2c plate was converted to a coffee table in the Dietz home!

The saga of the 10c plate is less admirable. It's been broken up into many sections and is what produces the many, varied color, "10c trial color proofs" you see all over ebay. Unfortunately, someone converted the denomination back, on a section, to 5 cents, and turned out truckloads of fake CSA #6-7 issues (known as the NY counterfits).

So that is the long version.

Your stamp is not an actual CSA issue, but was produced, by A. Dietz, from the origional (unused) confederate plates.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Good night!
Paolo
 


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill C
You forgot canals.
Sorry no lock gates close by.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Jim
4. P.O. Box # of Volcano Gallery (183)
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 14:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 


IO Because of the tie in with Bridges, Volcanoes and Triangles ?


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Jim
Three guessess from here:
1. volcanic thematic (Vulcan);
2. volcano country city (Morton);
3. Raton-Clayton volcano (Clayton).
Paolo
 


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Three guesses as to why this got photographed.

No prizes!!!


 

June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

Sugarmomma
I have also purchased many lots from this seller. I also echo the "not the fastest..." comment, but nothing bad enough to prevent me from buying again. Ken


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bob in WA
There is a sculpture of a test-tube baby on the March 1999 UK millenium issue, if that counts.


 

June 18, 2003 2PM Dennis Robertson

SugarMomma
I recently purhcased this cheap cover from Mr. Muller with satisfactory results.

DWyomingMenace


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Bill
Bought several from sugarmomma, no problem.


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Meverden <meverden@att.net>

Sugarmomma
Bill - I have bought many (20+) cheap advertising covers from this seller and never had any problems. Not the fastest, but not the slowest either. Hope that helps.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


sick by stamps (aka stamp killer???):
Is that supposed to have a meaning (maybe between the lines?)?
Smettila, per favore. Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Sugarmomma
I purchased two items from Lawrence Muller's eBay auctions (one on last January and one on Nov-07-99). In my limited experience I did not encounter any impediment.
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 1:30PM Bill Weiss

SUGARMOMMA
Has any member of this board had any trouble with this seller? He sells primarily cheap US covers. His real name is Lawrence Muller and he is based in Oregon. Any info will be appreciated. I will wait a day or so to tell you what happened to me after I see if any info from this board is forthcoming.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Question on Usage NOIP
Prometheus
sorry, I think you already knew what Porto stood for, in that cancel. I see the intent of your question, but I cannot make up the date cancel in that postmark (is that 1904?).
I do not know if by that time the practise of consigning the corrispondence directly on the hands of the Captain of the postal or commercial steamer was still valid and if this postal convention ever applied to anything that wasn't correspondence between Italy (Genova, Livorno, Civitavecchia, Napoli) and France (Nice, Marseille).

Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Auctions
Knud-Erik I am glad I just resulted the winning bidder for one of your auctions!
Nothing really special with the item, the departure CDS is superbly impressed (and I don't have that one)!
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Question on Usage NOIP
Prometheus
in that squared circle postmark: PORTO = Harbor (of Naples).
Probably the postage stamp had remained uncancelled and so they provided to obliterate it in transit or at arrival.
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 12:42 Bob in WA


Maarten -- Gee, maybe they could issue a stamp of a sonogram, for the youngest person to ever appear on a stamp! (or has that been done already?)


 

June 18, 2003 Richard Matta


Not a "type I", more than a "small" tear (on the left side), and, by the way, there is a big piece missing (at least he can't hide it).


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org> http://album.dweeb.org
 

FDC 26 June - Santa Clara
nomad, I've been thinking about this issue a bit. I'm probably going to miss the First Day stuff, although I'll be there that weekend, and I'll probably try to get that issue if it's available. I collect both setenants and singles of multiple issue releases like these, but the problem is that you never know which one Scott will designate as "first". So I plan on buying a strip of 20. That way, I'm guaranteed to be able to pull a properly-ordered strip of 10 out of it somewhere and be left with 10 singles one way or the other.

 

It seems odd for the USPS to issue multiple designs for a rate other than normal first class. They usually don't do that. I'm just worried about how long the strip of 10 will be and whether I'm going to have to do some goofy angled orientation on my album page to handle it. We'll see.

 

Jim


 

June 18, 2003 David Benson


Prometheus, arrival cancel at the at the Port of Naples Post Office.

David Benson


 

June 18, 2003 Maarten Willems


io Jim - Thanks for putting up the pics. That brought back good memories.

BTW: This evening there was an official announcement that our Princess Maxima is pregnant and she together with her husband the Royal Price of the Netherlands Willem-Alexander will expect their firstborn in mid-January. (This will eventually turn out to be a philatelic posting, because the kid will someday appear on a stamp for sure.)


 

June 18, 2003 1210 Prometheus

Question on Usage NOIP + Paolo
Was this Use of the GB stamp acceptible in Italy Because it was a PORTO Cancel NapoliportoGB
is this fairly common or an Oddity for my Odd box???

Jim Watson Thanks just the wrong pile OK I have a bunch like that


 

June 18, 2003 12:05 Bob in WA

Today's date
Today’s date -- June 18 -- (Also posted on eBay chat) From 1997, just 6 years ago, HERE is another of the covers I arranged for at Pacific 97. This one definitely returned to Torshavn, where it was posted, 10 days after the show ended, to the Seychelles. I received it back with others inside a larger envelope from Seychelles, so I know it got there. Unfortunately no receiver was applied. According to the people at the Faroes booth, it is the correct postage. A contrived but legitimate bridge cover, and how many Faroes to Seychelles covers have you ever seen before?

Bob in WA


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Goof of the day
Disclaimer: Maybe seller lives in another dimension and refers to Sassone catalog Issue of 2222 A.D. (unit of measure of valuta is therrfore expanded in betelgeuse's dollars).

 


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

Goof of the day
Goof of the day. Seller evidently revised item, corrected denomination 20c. instead of 5c., colour still wrong and, fortunately, "a picture tells a thousands words".
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 MiekieMuis


Iomoon, Jim, thanks for showing the picture! We should have actually asked the (your) waiter to make one of the four of us...

Kind regards, Michelle (Paolo's daugther :-)
p.s. Sorry for multiple posting, I could not get the message in here before.


 

June 18, 2003 10:12 Jim Watson


David D.,
I believe the cover was prepared on a ship bound from a French port (I suggested Marseilles), had French stamps applied, and was given to the purser. The purser took the on board letters on arrival in Malta and delivered them to the Malta Post Office (common practice for 'ship letters'). There they were treated as prepaid similarly to what would become the UPU 'Paquebot' procedure. I think the letter proceeded to England via an English vessel.

Prometheus,
Interesting postal card which got put in the wrong bundle.


 

June 18, 2003 09:45 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

CSA Facsimiles
Brian R...Thanks much for the info. I've added your comments to my album since I seem to forget things more easily these days. ;-)


I also have another CSA item I've never understood here. I purchased it many years ago from one of the higher priced approval services that seemed to cater to the novice or youth collector (Littleton maybe?) Anyway, the description that went with it was "Dietz 9A - Ordered by the South from England during the Civil War, the plate for a John C. Calhoun issue was lost in 1862 when the blockade runner carrying it sunk off the Louisiana coast. This printing was made when the plate was discovered washed up on shore during the 1920's."


My question, is this considered a real CSA stamp, a reprint, a facsimile, or just what is it? Thanks again. Off to work but will check back later. Ken


 

June 18, 2003 9:32 ajmax37

Square Trade Rip Off
More info on lap top rip off.Notice E BAY required some sellers to participate in rip off. "All eBay Travel sellers are encouraged to participate, and members selling airline tickets, cruises, lodging, and vacation packages will be required to participate in the program by June 3, 2002. SquareTrade will verify sellers listing in these categories to ensure they have the necessary qualifications to sell travel. eBay said the program reflects the highly regulated nature of the travel industry at both the state and federal level."


 

June 18, 2003 nomad55

FDC 26 June - Santa Clara
Anyone wanting an uncacheted FDC of the 25-cent coil to be issued in Santa Clara on June 26th, pay pal me 37 cents and 'e' me your address.


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


I'm on a roll.
Just added some more Tahiti to my web site.
Very pretty stamps.
Looks like they had trouble registering the second color on the overprinted stamps.
Notice the gap between face value and central image and top of mountain and top of cameo.


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Paolo

Funny you should feature that seller.
I was looking at their "stamp albums" yesterday.
No indication of what was in them other than the general topic.
No idea as to who chose stamps and whether it was entirely comprehensive.
The ones I looked at, in spite of being diverse topics, all seemed to be 16 pages long. Remarkable coincidence!
Mentions album in PDF format.
Do you get a disk and have to print your own pages?


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


David D
Its outside my timeframe and I didn't read responses so just guessing.
Malta had incoming and outgoing for local and overseas mail(like London). So mailed at Malta PO (on the dock?), received front cancels.
Transferred to overseas mail, received backcancel.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo B.

Goof of the day
Goof of the day
Paolo


 

June 18, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>

Jim Watson's Cover of June 15
Somebody help me on this. I can follow everything except why is there the Malta backstamp. If the letter was mailed in Malta why wouldn't if have Maltese postage. If it was posted directly to or on the French vessel (or other vessel going to Marseilles, how did it pick up the Malta backstamp?


 

June 18, 2003 0545 Prometheus

today's postcard jun18-19-20
This postcard left Gladwyne Pa June 18 1907
Went to Ardmore Pa for some reason getting there Jun19 at 8am
at 8 PM it was in Troudsburg Pa and on Jun 20 Arrives where it was originally sent in Tannersville PA
POSTCARD3CDS


 

June 18, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>


First post on this site but I have been lurking and reading as often as I could. Started when the end of the line was the beginning of page 7 (don't want to know where the end is now). Got stuck for a while on pages 3 and 4 and then slowly progressed. Only took 2 tries to complete the task.



But that indicates just one way that this site that Dave has created is superior to Ebay's chat. With my irregular visiting I would find that where I had left off had scrolled off the board. Now it is still here - just may have to back up a few more pages.



If we are still counting - chronlogical. On a threaded board my form of visiting would require me to find out in each thread where I had left off. Doing it once is enough time rather spend it reading.



Io I notice that your pub doesn't miss a trick in trying for your money from morning coffee on.


 

June 18, 2003 04:54 Jim Watson


Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a card from Germany flown in 1912 by a 'Yellow Dog!'


 

June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Gód dæg eall.

From a wet Scarsdale.

Colin
I think once you use a digital camera you will never return to the non-digital, unless you are a professional photographer.
There is still need for improvement in the macro department such as the ability to photograph stamps, but they are great for people and landscapes. Also a little slow, so you need a steady hand.


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


David B. Thanks for your reply. I agree. What's worries me, apart from the high start price, is that I think the seller is perfectly aware he's selleing a rather badly executed forgery (image of genuine from the great website http://www.antichistati.com, of Lorgil -- used only for comparison purposes and because my scanner is not working alright).
Main differences:
1. The 'fleur de lis' and the 'crown' are asymmetric (respectively right and left portions too small),
2. the colour of the paper is wrong (in the orginal it is violet, coloured at the pulp)
3. the wording with denomination below shows different font sizes. In particular, the "C" of "CENTES" is not high enough.

I have two of those forgeries, for two different denominations, and I will add that the paper is also too thick in the forgeries.
Paolo
 


 

June 18, 2003 David Benson


Paolo, at $49.99 for an $18,000 stamp he might find a buyer (sucker) who thought it may be real. 49c. is a more realistic valuation.

David Benson


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia

PARMA BIG RARITY
Bill C., David B. or anyone else:
What do you think of this one?

Gotta run -- will catch up later.
Paolo
 


 

June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Bob in WA :-) Greetings and thanks for the kind comments to you and Bill C. from my daughter.
I ed you both! :-)
Mauro ho la testa dura anch'io :-)
Success with your sales!

Jim (IO) -- in any case -- 1180 or 1240 -- looks like they started early to drink in company in a public house!

Paolo

 


 

June 18, 2003 00.20 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 


 

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.


 

K.E.   


 


 

June 18, 2003 Brian R

springfields
Hello Ken

Welcome! I just happened to swing by the board before bed. I'll rehash for you what I know about the Spingfields. The stamps are actually reproductions of the origional hand drawings of August Dietz. Dietz is the same guy who wrote the definative catalog of CSA, and whose books often pop up in that section of ebay. Supposedly, Dietz "freaked out" when he heard that the Tatham Stamp Co. was reproducing his drawings without permission. Ultimately, the lawyers got involved. The origional facsimiles don't have any such markings on the back, and, as Richard F pointed out, are on inferior paper. What ever the final resolution was, it didn't stop further printings, but included the addition of the facsimile wording. Obviously, your copies are the later type. Since then, numerous people have reproduced the images in either block or full sheet format. The misspelled "facsimilie" indicates that yours are origional to one of the actual booklets.

Richard F, or others, please correct me if I got any of this wrong.


 

June 18, 2003 11.21 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk> http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
 

Lot descriptions and refunds
Mauro

I always put in my description that I will accept returns for any reason whatever, and I return the price and the postage so that a buyer is never out of pocket. I think this gives buyers confidence and in 3 years I have only had one lot returned.
I put in my description that items by regular mail lost in the post are at the buyers risk, but on the one occasion this happened I refunded the money – a sort of self insurance, and my charges of 50p UK/Europe and £1 Rest of the World reflect a small contribution each time to that self insurance. I feel this again gives buyers confidence in you. But if the same buyer reported two different lots lost in the post I might start to get suspicious!

It is annoying when you get bad feedback from a newbie when it is not your fault – my one returned lot was because he could not see a half perforation was not there, but he had not asked about it or requested a more detailed scan and he left a neutral that “the scan could have been better but he would buy again!” (He won’t though, I blocked him!)

Iomoon

OK, so it’s New York not Texas. But aren’t all your stamps etc in Texas? Or do you have 2 lots? Have a good vacation anyway! Your picture of my garden has brought back to me that I really ought to get a digital camera, so I will ask my kids to install it for me when I have had the courage to get one! Closing the pub just for the battle? Sigh, those were the good old days when killing was authorised during set hours! Nowadays we never know when it will happen.

Colin


 

June 17, 2003 22:46 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)

Springfields
Hi. I have one of the Tasco booklets of CSA facsimiles discussed earlier. On the backs, about half are marked with a (misspelled) "Facsimilie", oriented either horizontally or vertically. The other half are marked "Facsimile / No. xxx" where 'xxx' is a number that corresponds to a number in the booklet. Here is an example. Was there more than one printing of these, and is this a way to tell them apart? Thanks. Ken


 

June 17, 2003 anne


Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of wonderful photographs, requests for reprints (probably more common in pre-xerox days) and beutiful views from windows. Anne


 

June 17, 2003 Brian R


FREE shipping though, that's a plus.


 

June 17, 2003 Brian R

anyone interested?
Dang! I was all ready to line up a snipe, when I noticed, that this item had a crease.


 

June 17, 2003 David Benson


Mauro, even though it may annoy you I still think that a refund of the postage and packing costs is in order if the item is not up to the description. I don't believe a refund is due if the buyer claims that the item was never recieved as it can be easily abused, that is what insurance is for.

David Benson


 

June 17, 2003 7:49 PM Dan (ddaannv on ebay)

Mauro's bad experience
Mauro, My belief is that, if the stamp was sent within the USA (I am making the wild assumption that you are in the USA) then it was delivered to the buyer. I have sent literally thousands of items (ebay buyers, APS, what-was-that-early-stamp-auction-company?, and others). Not one has gone astray. Only two have been damaged in the mail - both by water. I also believe that all or virtually all of the "lost in the mail" APS sales books are actually stolen by one of the APS circuit members.

As for USA to foreign countries, probably only about 1/1,000 go permanently astray. I do agree that, for mail outside the USA, adding nice commemorative stamps can be a red flag that something even nicer might be found inside the envelope.

What is the experience of others?

Dan


 

June 17, 2003 David Benson


Mauro, give my kind regards to Cesar, I know he has been having health problems for a few years and hope that he recovers OK.

David Benson


 

June 17, 2003 Prometheus

Jim WS and Dave P = Thanks
Thanks for the info on that Parcel Stamp, as it's not issued by Postoffice Guess that Steamer Trunk is Not the Largest Cover in the collection.
NOIP Route Question Was Ragoon thru Bombay Via Italy to Philly pa usa normal route. 1890


 

June 17, 2003 Prometheus

Mauro-= Your Terms of service
Clear and concise to me.

 


 

June 17, 2003 17:03 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
 

Miekiemuis
Miekiemuis Thanks for taking the pictures of the bunch. We all appreciate them very much.


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


bob
:-Þ
A few days they had to close early for battles.
This accounts for why British pubs used to close in the mid-afternoon and re-open after the battle was over at around 5pm.

Actually, there appears to be some disparity.
The pub sign states 1180.
A web search gives 1240.
Whereas this states

" The original inn was built in the 1400s and it still has a medieval underground chamber. The pub is famous for its association with smugglers who used its underground passageways, which were linked to the nearby parsonage. The Lamb Inn also hosted a ball for the Sussex Regiment before it set off for the Battle of Waterloo. But when the soldiers arrived, the battle was already over - so they returned to The Lamb for another ball to celebrate not firing a single shot! "
 


 

June 17, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz


Jim W-S: Thanks, added your corrections to the terms. And you're right i know i can not expect to satisfy every buyer desires and needs nor to recive positive feedback on every transaction.... but i would like to.

Brian R: As an example, im charging U$ 3 for REGISTERED Air Mail with online tracing to ANYWHERE in the world for an up to 20 grs. letter. (from Uruguay, South America)

David B: To give you an idea of what happened, a 1st time customer bought a nice GB stamp at eBay, and the stamp never arrived (per what he said)
About refunding shipping charges on returned items, what if a customer buys from you at eBay a nice, good looking stamp and then suddenly when he recives it he decides he doesn't want to keep it, you paid insertion fees, then final value fees, PayPal fees, and a long etc. of other fees and expenses and you also have to cover the Shipping expenses? Maybe i should credit shipping value in future purchases and stick to my Bid Only refund policy, do you think this will be satisfactory for the regular eBay Joe?

Sveiki!: I have noticed that courtesy is a scarce comodity nowadays but doesnt means that im going to forget about it! ;-)

Paolo: I refuse to use Metered covers or ugly stamps, what can i do! im in love with philately! (Grazie a me ed alla mia testa dura ... in a calabrese way)

Thanks to all of you.
Regards

Mauro

P.S. David B. Think our friend Cesar J. is having some health issues, will try to call him and get some fresh news. Will keep you posted.


 

June 17, 2003 4:05 pm Bob in WA

pics
Io -- Many thanks for sharing the pics. I especially like the one of Maarten with Paolo and his lovely daughter. Has that pub been in continuous operation since the 12th century?


 

June 17, 2003 1545 Prometheus

Bob Wa = My Smith cards
Bob they have already found a home Back where they started at Rutgers University
As I now know nothing extra special in the markings and I have scanned to disk for my reference use These and whatever others the dealer has when I return tomorrow will be sent per the request of L.B.B. Professor & Chair
Department of Entomology
Rutgers University

To join in the History and Museum of Entomology there.
Another Nice Letter to put With the others in my Archives on things that got donated back to where they should have been anyway,
My generosity is only limited by my meager wallet besides whats 30-40 dollars compared to the Ability to Brag to the Goobersmoochers I know who always freak out when I say hey if you get to the Museum be sure to check out some of the Items I donated.
Besides a local clown I vie with all the time at auctions always brags about his latest Big find and how much he made. I can't wait till friday when I get to say You went to Dartmouth Right, I just donated some stuff to Rutgers.

 


 

June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Jim W-S

Great pictures! Thank you for sharing. I only saved the one with the trio, even though I preferred Colin's garden and the Lamb Pub A.D. 1180 (!!!) on Ocklynge road.
Paolo
 


 

June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Ciao Mauro!
Nice terms.

"- We will not be responsible for ANY lot lost in the mail when sent by Regular Air Mail, and we will not refund any amount if you did not accept our registry/insurance options."

"- Return of items: We will accept returned items only if not as described, the returned amount will be your final eBay bid, shipping charges are NOT refundable in any case and the refund will be issued only after the item is received in the same condition AS SENT."


"- Strong packaging and interesting postage stamps will be used (no meters)."
Careful, because sometimes the mail gets stolen because of the nice looking franking. I would suggest professional sellers to use definitive postage stamps or meter stamps.

Just my half cent , of course.




Bill C. I examined the Gov. of Tuscany stamp and it is my opinion the seller is dishonest.

Paolo
 


 

June 17, 2003 sveiki!


Mauro "What we Expect from YOU" would sound much more inviting like this: "What we would appreciate". In my opinion you cannot expect anyone to leave feedback - feedbacks are meant as a courtesy. Courtesy is hard to be expected. {:o)


 

June 17, 2003 David Benson


Mauro, I would also refund the postage as well, may help future sales. Sounds like an interesting story behind it, do you want to tell.

David Benson


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Mauro

Though it is always nice to receive it, positive feedback might not always be forthcoming.
There may be buyers who dislike what they receive.

You need a comma or semi-colon after included.
Remove first "after" before 1 to 2 shipping days.
Otherwise, looks good.


 

June 17, 2003 Brian R

terms
MarioI see nothing in your terms that would stop me from bidding. Looks clear. I do notice that your won't refund shipping if an item is not as described. Nothing wrong with that if its detailed, and you are actually charging real shipping costs. I'm thinking of a particular seller who charges $4.95 domestic U.S. shipping, so as he'll make money, selling the same crappy stamp over and over.

Come to think of it, there are several of those on ebay.


 

June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia


Bob in WA I don't suppose you go to the Trasimeno lake shore with a stamp album, unless you want to soak something :-)
Paolo


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Try again.

Colin's garden
 


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


OK maarten
Some images.

Paolo, Michelle, and Maarten

Oldish Pub

a href=http://users.overland.net/~jlwstark/colingarden2.jpg target=_blank>Colin's garden


 

June 17, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz

Ebay Terms
Hi, after a bad selling experience with a not so gentle buyer i decided to change my eBay selling terms, do you guys think they're correct enough? i will appreciate any feedback about them.
Regards

Mauro


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Sorry Dave, I should have read a little further before replying.


 

June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark http://www.iomoon.com
 


Prometheus
Your 5lb is a 5/- for the London, Midland and Scottish Railway.
Greenock was a ferry point, probably to the Isle of Arran.


 

June 17, 2003 Brian R


Richard B--On the bright side, they missed fifty cents worth of postage, that you can now soak off, and reuse. :o)

Bill C.--ROTFLMAO (your "report" button)


June 17, 2003 Dave P

Parcel Stamp
Prometheus
Your stamp is a Five shilling Railway Stamp. Not sure of exact age but it is "post-grouping", that is after all the little companies were swept up into a few big ones, but pre-nationalisation so I would guess 1930's, but may be wrong as not my field. Many companies issued stamps in the same general design, and as they were stamped for each station the variety is almost endless. As a parcel it came outside the GPO monopoly and would not have required an additional Royal Mail stamp as railway letters did.


 

June 17, 2003 12.40 Knud-Erik (knuden) http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
 

I need some help. :O)
 

The Dutch speaking friends on the board - Can any of you translate this handwritten text on the back of this wrapper for me. It's a very interesting wrapper, which had an envelope inside, which was against the regulation and was then charged as a letter and a due marking was added and in Netherland a due stamp was added for the reciever to pay. The handwritten text on front reads: "Contains a closed letter, Esbjerg Post Office14/12-(18)90, signed the postmaster (name).


 

K.E.  

 


 


 

June 17, 2003 12:05 Bob in WA


Bill -- Sorry, late start today. Much obliged, but I already have those, an extra set, in fact. Some day I'll have to do an inventory, but a rough guess is that I have close to 2000 bridge stamps, so ones I am missing are not as plentiful. I have already many times experienced finding I had purchased ones I already had. I could put together a large and quite good bridge collection from duplicates.

Prometheus -- I would think the accumulation might be of interest to a collector of entomology on stamps. It would help if Professor Smith had himself been on a stamp! Academia takes a back seat to politics, entertainment, and sports when we define "famous", alas. But every area has its "fans"