StampChat Archives
Archive:
June
16 - 30, 2003
June 30, 2003 22:10 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>
Tips on scanning, expecially stamps
Anyone new to scanning or anyone that needs some tips or correct some common
misconceptions should check out
Tips
on Scanning by Peter Aitken This is an A+++ site on everything from
selecting a scanner to using the scanner & is particularly aimed at scanning
philatelic materials
David
June 30, 2003 John
By the way,the bidder in question has note paid over 5 dollars for any of the
last 100+ lots and is now bidding on some higher priced stuff.
June 30, 2003 magnolia stamps
would some one care to explain this one away?Question! How does a single bidder
rack 2851 fb's and only has a 148 rating.Could it be that this person is to many
multiple lots from the same dealers,or
caan it be something else?here!Now
here's something to think about besides a new overpriced scanner or 1 to many
posts about soaking modern stamps.
Bob in Stl Photo shop can be picked up at Sams club for around 90
bucks and quite often it will have a 40 dollar rebate,Many programs that Sher
has installed here have been virtually free,and some times the rebate was more
than the program cost.BTW got any revs.you want to trade or sell?
john
June 30, 2003 Prometheus
Victor = Reply on soaking
Have you tried the method of just trapping the envelope,piece with the stamp in
a humid container
no soaking
normally after a couple of hours the Stamp will slide right off and retain some
of it's gum, if you want all gum gone you let the stamp sit in Humidity bath and
then normally all glue goes too on to suface you left it on.
I use the Poaching bowl that came with my Microwave oven ,with a sponge in
bottom to hold the small plate i lay my items on .works real well for me don't
let them stay for longer than a day as old stamps seem to have lots of Mold /
mildew spores they have sucked up over the years.
June 30, 2003 David Benson
Victor, which ones did you have the problems with, the only ones I can think of
are the British 1883 Lilacs and Greens which were printed with a doubly fugitive
ink. I presume these were washed off with the stamp carefully left floating
upwards.
David Benson
June 30, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>
general
NOIP: Just a general question about all of those early QV British Commonwealth
used stamps that fade when they are soaked (I have done it to several nice
stamps to my financial detriment.) How were they originally soaked off the
envelopes/covers without the same severe fading? How can they be bright colorful
USED stamps, but fade to a washed out example after the 'second' soaking?
June 30, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Image Editing
Where do you get Photoshop for $99? I have version 4 and would not mind
upgrading, but I didn't register it since I got it from a friend who got a
teacher's price on it and we didn't know if that was "legal" or not. Have had it
long enough that no way to find any purchase information, and still would not
register it for same reason.
June 30, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Image Software
I'm a big fan of photoshop. But my sister's best friend works for Adobe, which
lets me get any of their software for $40, so it's easy for me to be a fan...
One of the nicest features of photoshop is their batch processing routines - you
can "record" a series of actions and then indicate to "play" those actions on a
bunch of files. I recently discovered the metadata aspect of image files, and I
decided to add copyright information to all of my stamp images, just in case
they show up somewhere unexpected. So I recorded one "set copyright information"
series of steps, then played it back on all 4700 of my image files. It took less
than an hour for PhotoShop to open the 4700 files one-by-one, add the metadata,
and save them out.
Jim
June 30, 2003 Bjorn Langoren
Fancy image editing software
If you're not ready to plunk down $99 for Photoshop, or your scanner came with a
watered down version (mine came with adobe photodeluxe, which is a worthless
POS), you can try out WinGimp.
WinGimp has pretty much all the features of Photoshop, is abslutely free (Gnu
Public Licence), and is constantly being improved by volunteer developers. To
download for free, just go to www.wingimp.org.
I know there are some budget minded collectors here. I use gimp myself on both
linux and win98, and no hassles so far.
June 30, 2003 15:00 Dave ("philatarium")
Photoshop
Bill: Thanks very much for sharing your procedures and experience. I
really appreciate it, and, once I have things worth showing, I will.
June 30, 2003 COVERWIZ
Darrell
Consider it a beauty mark! From an old Dolley Madison Club member...
June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
Shucks!!
June 30, 2003 13:17 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") I just use the default in PhotoShop as that seems
good enough. I use Image:Scale and look at the width. I then enter a number
double that or whatever I know I need to make all the images the same size. My
default is Bicubic but I did not try others.
Usually I scan at the size I want. Then I scale down to 100 or 77 or 125 DPI
for the mapped composite image of a set. Then the web user can click on a thumb
nail in the set and bring up a page with the full size image and the forgeries.
Here is an example
Uruguay
June 30, 2003 13:08 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") Here is my fire drill. I use PhotoShop Import
function to import an image from the scanner. I usually scan at 600 DPI for
decent images and 400 DPI for web images. Anything less than 400 DPI (unscaled)
is not enough to see detail for forgeries. 600DPI is better.
Then I use PhotoShop to crop the image and scale it if necessary.
If I am making a composite image I copy from PhotoShop and paste into
Microsoft Paint (free program). Paint will then let me move the image easily to
its final location. One composite image using HTML mapping loads much faster
from the web and more reliably than a lot of thumb nails. I use the free
HappyLad Image Mapper for mapping.
If I am saving in PhotoShop I same as JPEG quality 3 or 4. Then I use
JPEGwizard to compress to the desired file size. JPEG wizard has a nice batch
compression feature. If I need a fast load web image I use Adobe ImageReady to
make a small GIF. ImageReady comes with PhotoShop. You could probably get away
with a cheaper program than PhotoShop.
June 30, 2003 13:01 Dave ("philatarium")
Photoshop
I should add that I bit the bullet and got the upgrade to Photoshop 7, which is
what is used in the classes. It also sort-of integrates ImageReady into it. I
figure that once I get more comfortable with it, it should be at least as
effective as IrfanView (which I have used in the past).
June 30, 2003 13:00 Dave ("philatarium")
sampling algorithms
Bill Claghorn: I'm just beginning to get more comfortable with Photoshop.
I was doing a little bit on my own, and then discovered some classes being
taught nearby that emphasis its use for photographers (as opposed to graphic
designers), so my skills are improving day by day. (An interesting aspect to the
discussions in class are the best ways to scan a photograph or other highly
detailed image (I'm thinking "stamp" here), and really beginning to work with
the color and image manipulation capabilities.)
But the question I was starting out to ask is: which resampling did you use: "bicubic",
"bilinear", or "nearest neighbor"? Do you understand which would be the best to
use under which circumstances? (My classes haven't gotten this far along yet...)
June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
Bill C
Yep, the quiz image I showed yesterday for some reason came out at 50 kb. I put
it through irfanview (all I have at the moment) and it was reduced to 7 kb.
Doing nothing other than opening it and saving it.
June 30, 2003 12:41 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
high-resolution images
Dave ("philatarium") I used PhotoShop to blow up the image I posted the
link to doubling the size and it looked like Knud's image. Some images have the
detail and are compressed well so they blow up well. PhotoShop has a good
algorythm (of course) so it works well, especially for integer doubling. It all
depends on the quality of compression in the first place. I use JPEGwizard for
compression because it has less artifacts than photoshop. IOmoon also like
IRfranView (sic).
Forgery
Identification Site
June 30, 2003 11:45 Dave ("philatarium")
Oops
Knud-Erik: Oops. Second paragraph of my last post was directed to you...
June 30, 2003 11:35 Dave ("philatarium")
high-resolution images
Yea! Back on line from home (home office)! Phone company came out today
(scheduled to come out on Wednesday and need access to house) while I wasn't
here and without access to house and fixed the line. It's good to be connected
again!
: What kind of software did you use to enlarge the image? Didn't
you have to use a resampling algorithm to accomplish this? I also thought
resampling algorithms didn't work very well, and should only be used as a last
resort. But at first glance, the image you created looks pretty good! What did
you do?
June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bjorn
It brings "a breath of fresh air" to stamp collecting!!
June 30, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Undersea post office
How do they cancel the stamps before they soak off?
June 30, 2003 10:41 Bob in WA
Undersea post office
Bjorn -- They must sell a lot of bubble wrap.
June 30, 2003 Bjorn Langoren
Oops, my name is not Undersea Post Office. Noting wrong with that, mind you, but
my name is Bjorn.
June 30, 2003 Undersea post office
Under water post office
This article(Sorr it's
in Norwegian) reports a new unsdersea post office opened in Vanatu. Divers can
get their waterproof postcards stamped with waterproof postmarks.
June 30, 2003 Darrell Ertzberger <mteton@aol.com>
Sigh, I suppose it was inevitable. Got first negative today. From a guy in
Germany that never responded to five emails from me, both sent direclty to his
email and through the ebay mail system. No reposnse for him at all. I was
concerned, but I was not going to call Germany over a less than $5 lot. Well, 1
out of 532 unique feedbacks is not too bad.
June 30, 2003 09.27 Knud-Erik (knuden)
High resolution image
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
Dave - What about
this size
then? It's Bill's picture but resized! :O)
K.E.
June 30, 2003 9:12 Dave ("philatarium")
request for hi-res images
Bill Claghorn: Yours was an excellent suggestion, by looking at auction
sites. For almost any purpose, the image size of the link that you posted would
work very well. However, I'm not sure if the image size will be large enough for
the exercise we'll be doing in class tomorrow, although it might. (But you have
given me some excellent ideas for the future.)
Thus, I will still keep open my request, per my post of last night at 23:13.
Many thanks!
-- Dave
June 30, 2003 Bob Hohertz
INDYPEX
Howdy! Back from INDYPEX. The show seemed to be well attended, and several
dealers mentioned they were having a good show. Two others (dealers?) were
overheard in the washroom saying the show was dying. Take your choice.
It was the annual convention of the American Revenue Association, and it was
great to get together with old friends and make some new ones. So far as revenue
dealers at the show, there were no more there than at the Saint Louis show in
March, if as many. The ones there had plenty of good things to buy - in fact,
way too many. The ARA meeting session was also well attended. I gave a talk
shortly after lunch Saturday, and put almost everyone in the room to sleep for
some period of it.
My exhibit was well received, far beyond my hopes.
A good show. Long may it prosper.
June 30, 2003 Prometheus
Jim Watson = Reply
The letter has a few hard to read words, But from what I now understand I was
right on the first part when I posted it was coming back from war.
Can not get a decent scan to post I do not wnat to Force Flat paper folded for
156 years.
Passage about troops reads" Tomorrow or next day the Second Reg. Indiana
Volunteers are expected at New Albany and they say there will be very tall
doings in giving them a becoming welcome.
But poor fellows there is many a Noble Spirit remains Behind.
Felled by disease,or cannon ball ,or sword. "
June 30, 2003 Richard Warren
Santa Clara & Mexico
Jim G - Thanks, Jim. That's very helpful. Appreciated.
Prometheus - Your sender could have been one of these: http://company.military-historians.org/plates/images/US.htm#mexican
Scroll down to plate 357 and click on the number for a pop-up picture.
June 30, 2003 7:44 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Italy 1889 5L used
Hi, I wonder if anyone can give me any comments as to whether the cancellation
on the stamp in the scan below is genuine.
Thanks in advance.
Mark.
Italy 1889
5L
June 30, 2003 07:30 Jim Watson
Prometheus,
Here are 5000
soldiers to look through! :-)
June 30, 2003 07:22 Jim Watson
Prometheus,
Interesting historical item. I note that Jim's listing of the 2nd regiment shows
a great mustering out in New Orleans on June 23, 1847. Could one get from
New Orleans to New Albany, Indiana, in 7 days in 1847? Perhaps it was from
another unit.
June 30, 2003 Prometheus
IO =Reply
Haven't found sender= G.K.Erwin of Newalbany Ind, or the receiver = Joesph Cox
of Bloomington
I'll keep looking though
June 30, 2003 Prometheus
Brian McI = Faked Seal tied on Postcard
Do you see many MADE UP Xmas seal covers/cards
I have one dealer I buy from that after i told him what I liked
He found
THISONE
and then while I my say OKay the pencil Cancel is a maybe
I know ( at least I think I do) that this
Stamp
wasn't cancelled on it he just didn't understand the term Tied he just thought
the seal and stamp needed to touch can't wait for his next Find.
June 30, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
prometheus
Your sender was probably
one of
these
June 30, 2003 Prometheus
Correction = they were heading to War
Sorry they were not coming back they were all getting ready to Go to Mexico.
June 30, 2003 0549 Prometheus
Day late Today Mail
Got busy and missed it
Here is a nice Stampless 1847
Letter
Where would the Second Regimant Indiania Volunteers have been coming from in the
Summer of 1847 ?
June 30, 2003 05:31 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a postal card from
Portuguese India
to Bombay in 1889.
Knud-Erik,
Thanks for the comment on the cirled 22. I'll wait and see if anyone else can
make it certain for Belgium.
June 30, 2003 04:34 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
request for hi-res images
Dave ('philatarium') A quick searech for France C15 turns up
http://www.apfelbauminc.com/images4/41120a.jpg THIS . Hope that helps.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 30, 2003 23:13 Dave ('philatarium')
<dfrick@pacificanalytics.com>
request for hi-res images
Hi -- Sorry I haven't been around much this weekend, as I had thought I would.
My phone lines goes out intermittently, and so I can't check on very much.
(Phone company can't come out till Wednesday. Grrr...)
But, I have a request. As I mentioned before, I'm taking a couple of Photoshop
classes right now, and, for one class, I have some stamps in mind that I would
like to use for a project. The only problem is, I don't own the stamps.
I am, in particular, looking for:
-- that amazing early French airmail with the wonderful engraving (although many
would qualify as that). I believe it's Scott C15, and I'm afraid I don't have my
Scotts handy to know the year. However, here is an image of it I cropped off of
Mitchell's website:
http://www.pacificanalytics.com/stampchat/images/france_c15.jpg
The other one(s) I'm particularly interested in are the first Greek airmails,
from 1926, Scott C1 - C4. Here's an image I borrowed from elsewhere:
http://www.pacificanalytics.com/stampchat/images/Greece_c1c4.jpg
For the Greek set, I would be interested in any one or all four images, scanned
separately.
If any of you has any of these stamps, here's what I need:
-- stamp should be a nice copy, fresh-looking, unused (i.e., no cancel),
hopefully well-centered. (Happily, gum doesn't matter for once!)
-- scan at 300 dpi or somewhat higher (although the prior discussion about 2400
dpi would probably cause the lights to dim here!)
-- either .jpg, but uncompressed, or .psd (Photoshop format)
I would expect the file size to be big, say 300 - 600k.
You could either email it to me at my email address above, or else upload to the
web, from which I could download it.
And as if I wasn't asking for the world already, I really need to get this image
tomorrow (Monday), say by 11:00pm (23:00) Pacific time.
Can anybody help out with this?
Many, many thanks in advance,
-- Dave
June 29, 2003 20:46 Lavar Taylor
Good evening/day to all. Today's featured item of postal history focuses on mail
from the US to Germany during WWI.
This is a
2c postal envelope, uprated with a 3c Washington stamp to pay the 5c UPU rate to
Germany. The cancel on the stamp reads San Francisco, Jan. 30, 1917, less than 3
months before the US entered WWI against Germany. But the letter did not
originate in San Francisco. The return address is H. Hackfeld & Co., PO Box 248,
Honolulu. There is a circular marking in light blue which reads "Matson Nav. Co.
S.S. Wilhelmina, Jan. 24, 1917. Thus the card appears to have been placed aboard
the SS Wilhelmina in Hawaii. The cover was addressed to Dresden, Germany, but it
never made it there. On the
reverse
there is a Washington DC postmark dated June 27, 1917. I believe that the cover
was held there, where it was opened by the PO.
The PO then marked the cover "Mail service suspended to country addressed"
and added the "return to writer" pointing finger. The PO also added the
"officially sealed" labels at the top (which are still intact as the letter was
opened on the side). The opening of the letter appears to be an unofficial form
of censoring. While looking at the contents the PO wrote in blue crayon on the
front "Schofield Barracks Oahu." Schofield Barracks is where a number of German
sailors were kept after their ships, which had docked in Honolulu at the outset
of WWI (then a neutral port), were seized by the US. The contents of this cover
very likely were written by a German sailor held at Schofield Barracks to his
wife or mother in Germany. Most mail to Germany from the US was returned as
undeliverable starting in early January, 1917. I will be showing other mail
going from the US to Germany during WWI in the near future.
June 29, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Richard, I looked for them yesterday, but they weren't in their assigned
place - someone selling supplies was spanning their booth and two others. But I
went back today and I happened to see them there in a different booth. There was
one balding gentleman there, and he had one customer. I wouldn't recognize an
illegal if I saw it, so I have no idea what they were offering.
Jim
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Brian
In most cases they are data programs where, in effect, what you are paying for
is the time and effort that someone has put into collating material pertaining
to a specific topic.
It can be, as in my case, a catalog, where I have incorporated my modest
knowledge of volcanology with a topical theme.
In other cases it may be a program written by a person with an extensive
computer knowledge who has applied that knowledge to enable you to manipulate
images of your stamps or to compose album pages based on the information that
you input.
There are numerous other permutations.
June 29, 2003 Brian R
stamp software
noipI keep seeing more and more auctions for software that will "manage"
your stamp collection. Does anyone use this stuff? What's the gain? I organize
my collection, in a revolutionary new product, known as an album.
Am I just a young guy with old fashioned tendencies? What am I missing out
on?
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dang Brian,
That was too quick!!
Though "commemorative" is the correct spelling :-Þ
The prize is self-esteem!
June 29, 2003 2:39 pm Steve Taylor (aka philcomp)
http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
A Curiosity
I received the cover (an envelope) this past week. The 2 cent Franklin is a cut
corner of a postal card indica PERFORATED YET! And the perforations look pretty
good.
The sender is a stamp dealer. The frightening thing is 'What else might he be
doing with the perforator?'
June 29, 2003 Brian R
stamp quiz
Jim It's the 1965 US commemerative "Settlement of Florida", SC #1271.
What's my prize? :o)
June 29, 2003 Prometheus
Philcomp = your corner cut
I don't have any that new with the 37 cent rate but have some older ones where
the postage was cut off postcards and applied to tourist type postcards, and a
couple on covers.
From the fifties and I have seen a few of those at the postcard shows.
I just wish I knew how they made the perfs.
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Quiz time.
Name this
stamp.
Scott # does not count!
Clue: Claire was there! At least, down the road.
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
Overpriced for a postcard which is only 21¢????
June 29, 2003 1:59 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp)
http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
A Curiosity
What is wrong with this
picture?
June 29, 2003 sveiki!
Delcampe website
knuden Way to go! {:o) Just went through the list of offerings you have
listed at the Delcampe site. Then began to calculate eBay losses on your 30 days
non-grata period at eBay. Made me quite happy, even though eBay doesn't give a
hoot. I hope eBay and it's shareholders will get some heavier losses, they
deserve a reminder of real life.
June 29, 2003 11.43 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Choo - Choo!! (revised)
Ratts!
Anyone collecting locomotive on stamps? - Look here:
- at these
beutyfull engraved Belgium Railway stamps from my year of birth - 1949 :O)They
are not mine - found them at the net. :O)
K.E.
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
knud-Erik
your link
Futfut????
Pretty stamps!
June 29, 2003 11.38 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Choo - Choo!!
Anyone collecting locomotive on stamps? - Look here:
- at these
beutyfull engraved Belgium Railway stamps from my year of birth - 1949 :O)They
are not mine - found them at the net. :O)
K.E.
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Nick
Correct!!
Zaire would also have worked.
June 29, 2003 Prometheus
Bjorn = Charles = Thanks
Thanks for the info on those Hitler coil stamps , Guess I'll have to bite the
bullet and pay a lot more than I wanted too for the boxes of material.
The seller felt they were worth 400 US just the coil
To get the stuff I have to own from those boxes guess I'll also own an unopened
coil of 8pf Stamps.
June 29, 2003 Dave P
Biafra
Can anyone tell me if the set of four Butterflies issued by Biafra in 1968 are
listed in Scott (or any other cat.), and if so a recent cat value? They used to
be listed by Gibbons under Nos. 27 - 30 but are now relegated to a foot-note.
June 29, 2003 Alec McGrattan
useful link for non German French etc speakers
I hope the members here will find this link useful.
http://www.philaguide.com/philawords/index.htm
Very easy to use and it can be of some help especially if searching through
European auctions. Any comments are welcome.
June 29, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
cut squares
Was it a popular collecting style back in the 40'/50's to cut envelopes and
postcards down so that the stamp and cancel were collected together? I've seen
this in collections before and today I bought a large collection (about 80
notebooks) of them, all placed on notebook paper with old photo mounting
corners. There isn't much of interest in them as far as stamps go, but would
there be any cancel interest today, even though they are no longer full cards or
envelopes? The notebooks are arranged by state that the cancels are from.
June 29, 2003 Charles L. Williams <cwilliam@joplin.com>
Hitler Coil
Prometheus... MICHEL lists strips of 11 at DM 20. Theoretically then, an
unopened coil would have a catalog value of approximately DM 900- or about $
450. Routinely, the whole is not worth more than the sum on these things. I
would think $ 100 would be a worthy offer.
June 29, 2003 Nick <kathmoon@aol.com>
Crossword Answer ??
Jim: Patrice (Lumumba) = CONGO
June 29, 2003 09:52 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Hitler head coil
Michel Spezial doesn't list complete coils, the closest they have is "Elferstreifen"
(strips of 11). A strip of the 8pf is priced at 10DM in Michel '96 ($4.50), but
I don't think you can multiply that by 45, it's probably far less. I'm no expert
though...
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
If so,
todays crossword clue.
Patrice was its leader (5) (either way!)
June 29, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Are all eBay chatboards dead?
June 29, 2003 Prometheus
Help = Hitler Head Coil of 500 unopened
Hello all
Can anyone tell me if an unopened Coil of 8pf red ( Scotts 511 i think) has any
value the coil is 500 stamps and has a band sealing the outside and some
initials and a date in pen.
This has been offered up to me in an estate lot i might buy and the seller
thinks they have Great Value Do They.
Thanks if you can help.
I want the other items but must buy all 5 boxes of stuff and these satmps are
the sticky point.
June 29, 2003 08.14 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Delcampe
Guillaume - Thank you for your offer to help me. :O)
I find Delcampe a very good alternative to PoohBay and, as you said, they are
more friendly than many other sites. They even have a feature which allow you to
automately restart an unsold auction for up to 999 times and you pay only for
what you sell (0.01 to 249.99 Euros/month : 4.0 %)!! They have a good forum and
there is articles too.
I hope really that this auction site will be THE stamp auction site instead of
PoohBay!
K.E.
June 29, 2003 Richard Warren
ASADA Santa Clara
Jim Griffith _ sorry to hassle, Jim. Just wondered if you'd noticed
Stampdile selling at the show?
June 29, 2003 Guillaume
One more thing about Delcampe: When you do a search for "all items from a
particular seller" you get a nice list with the different categories. No need to
wade your way through two million listings, you can go immediately to the area
you collect!
June 29, 2003 Guillaume
Knud-Erik Nice to see you are already getting bids on Delcampe.
A few pointers: List the items close to the price you want to obtain, there is
less trafic than on eBay and starting items at one buck might hurt you (and for
the moment you seem to have very little competition). Be patient, Delcampe is
much more relaxed and friendly than eBay (you can even email Seb Delcampe
himself and get an answer!). Belgians are very particular about shipping
charges, always be fair. There are a lot of French people on Delcampe, which is
nice, but take extra care when sending lots to France. The postal system there
is not always too reliable (I have lost very few items in the mail so far, those
that I lost disappeared mainly en route to France). If you need any help, just
ask me. Your decision to stay is very good, Delcampe is growing rapidly. They
will be charging some fees as of July, though. But I believe that is normal,
they have to pay to keep the site running. Good luck!
June 29, 2003 06:38 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
EUSC Site Maintenance
Laura The EUSC site is maintained by President Roger and
graciously hosted by BillSey. When they come on line they can fulfill your
request.
June 29, 2003 06.26 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Re: Today's dated postal history item
Jimbo - Hi Jim. Nice card - it reminds me of Mombassa, Kenya where I
stayed for a year way back.
The "22" in a circle could it be the Belgium mailman's cancel, like they have in
Netherland?
K.E.
June 29, 2003 05:42 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a picture postcard from
Portuguese Congo
to Belgium in 1910.
June 29, 2003 LaurelA (laura598)
Ebay Stamp Club: Not sure who to contact
I want to have my email address removed from the Ebay Stamp club members list,
as it comes up on a 2 second Google search, of my name. I am having some
security problems and would appreciate the removal of it. I tried to contact the
webmaster on that page, the email was returned to me as undeliverable. Thanks in
advance, Laura
June 29, 2003 David Benson
Knud, glad that Delcampe is OK for you. They have some advantages over Ebay
especially for European material.
Mauro, I cannot ID the Transvaal as the paper could be either thin or coarse
which is impossible with a scan. there are so many variants as well as forgeries
and reprints but the easiest test is the raid D in EENDRAGT which appears to be
OK.
Bjorn, it was 21 here too which is not bad seeing that it is mid winter.
David Benson
June 29, 2003 03:35 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Ebay Suspension
Knuden: I guess esnipe is just confused about the error message it gets
from eBay. Just like PayPal claims my credit card has been "denied by the credit
card issuer" when in fact they just have problems connecting to their server.
Got me scared the first time. I wouldn't worry.
Now that you're suspended from eBay, who not just take a month off? I guess July
isn't the most profitable month to sell anyway, since potential bidders may be
on vacation.
22C at noon - this is gonna be a hot day!
June 29, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Australia watermarks
David & Marius: Thank you both for your help, the early Australian watermarks
look all the same for me!
Regards
Mauro
June 29, 2003 01.09 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY.
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
Thank you for all the kind words which have been written about my suspendion.
Yesterday I got a mail from Esnipe (I had forgot I had a bid waiting there.)
which got me puzzled. This is part of the mail: "The Results of your bid:
eBay says resolve complaints - eSnipe was able to snipe the bid in the time
specified. However, eBay will not allow you to bid, they say you need to resolve
complaints sellers have made against you." My question is: Which complaints
and for what?? I haven't heard a word from Ebay about these complaints but
"only" that I voilated their rules listening "verboten" material. Does sellers
now turn others in? If so - I will ask those sellers to come out in the open and
not cowardly hide behind the skirts of Ebay.
I have now moveed all my auctions to
Delcampe.com and I might, if it goes well, stay there or use the site some
more.
Would someone be so kind to sent my greetings at the Ebay chat board? :O)
K.E.
June 29, 2003 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>
5/ Roo
Marius.. Glad you dropped in. You are, of course, correct.
David
June 29, 2003 John@magnolia stamps
more from the attic
Attic treasures my foot!this dealer is still trying to sell the same bogus lots
from last year!All are as is and be sure to check oyt the fake phillipine
overprints. what
a joke
June 29, 2003 Marius
http://www.boomspeed.com/stampmad/main_page.htm
5/- Roo
Mauro........I wll beg to differ with David. The watermark shown is the narrow
crown which makes your roo Scott#54
June 29, 2003 Brian R
John I'm afraid that I have near zero knowledge, to help or appreciate,
CSA currency notes. I'll bet they've held their value better that the US dollar
recently!
June 29, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
soaking
I too have not had any problems soaking self-adhesive stamps with plain old
water. I usually make it a tad bit warmer than usual though.
June 29, 2003 John@Magnolia
Brian
A few weeks ago I found a couple of nice souther bank notes 1 from Ala and 1
from Ga.both on local banks late 1850s and whats great is there both in good
cond.also found 1 from Chatanooga tn.
June 29, 2003 John
Brian......Ahhhhhh your so right!!!!!
June 28, 2003 Brian R
winshild fluid soaking
Chris Have you tried that methanol method on any of the non-paper poly
stamps? I would be fearful that might actually effect the printing.
June 28, 2003 Still Later Now Chris
Soaking
John, I found that I had sticky residue if I used warm water
and something the stamp disintigrated trying to get the adhesive off.
This procedure leaves the stamp clean and non-sticky.
Chris - a zillion defns to sort in a few months
June 28, 2003 Later Now Chris
Dinner this evening
I have Ben & Jerry's for dessert tonight.
It was a couple of mile walk to get it, but worth it.
A large scoop in a waffle cone was 4 something, but I was
paying downtown prices.
Chris - bought some nice rose incense too
June 28, 2003 Brian R
yipes!
JohnLOL., Your linked stamps make me ponder again, just what my cohorts
are up to, in collecting such sludge. My bet, but not my comprehension, is that
someone WILL bid on that.
Then again, there are guys in this world, who will pay good money, to have a
dominatrix beat them.
June 28, 2003 John
Soaking
chris
I have no problem with soaking the new stamps off paper.Warm water works fine
around here.Just let soak for 10 to 15 min an they come right off,been doing it
since they came out!I wonder why everyone has so much trouble with them?As a
mtter of fact I just soaked some off of my latest Sam Houston mail bid cover
that came today.Darn I like getting mail..
.Anyone interested in some Graf Zep.Poste Kartes and some Hindenburg zep
cards I still have a few to get rid of!
June 28, 2003 Now Chris
Yow!
Soaking self stick stamps
As some of you may remember, I have been working on the problem of
soaking self stick stamps off paper. After consultation with a world
class organic chemist (The infamous Uncle Al of sci.physics fame)
and many experiments, I have found a very satisfactory method.
The secret is blue windshield washer fluid, the kind with methanol in it.
The procedure is quite simple. Put stamps on paper into a large jar.
Mason jars are ideal. Cover the stamps with windsheild washer fluid and
cover for 24 hours. At the end of the 24 hours, pour the fluid back
into the bottle, (It may be re-used several time, do NOT put it into
your car after use.) Put the stamps into cold water and soak for a
few minutes. The stamps should pop off easily leaving all the adhesive
stuck to the paper. Rinse the stamps several times and dry as you
normally would. Be careful about red and yellow papers, they bleed and
will dye other stamps.
This procedure has been tested on US, GB and Australian self sticks.
On US and GB it works very well. It doesn't work as well on the
Austrailian stamps, but nothing else does on them either.
Chris - don't drink the washer fluid
June 28, 2003 stamphick
ASDA Santa Clara
Jim G.. The main problem with the location of the show is that the only
place to get a cold brew within walking distance is a hotel lobby bar where a
draft beer goes for something like $13. It does come with a nice silver bowl of
pretzels though.
David
June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Bill, believe it or not, I've never even tasted Ben & Jerry's, of any
flavor. Notwithstanding, my second most chocolatey ice cream would be Double
Rainbow Ultra Chocolate, which may be available only in the San Francisco Bay
Area. Third is probably Haagen Dazs chocolate chocolate chip. As chocolate goes,
it's a pale imitation of the first two (although it doesn't claim to be "dark").
But it's better than most.
Hmmm. Ice cream on stamps? Anyone ever seen any?
Off to make dinner. Pan-fried tilapia, mashed potatoes, corn on the cob, and
green beans. Followed by Godiva, of course. I love Saturdays... :-)
Jim
June 28, 2003 22:08 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>
stamp info
Mauro.. Pretty sure that 5/ Roo is Scott 12.
David
June 28, 2003 john
Brian
this should be rite up your alley,http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2937756673&category=683
now tell me are these not a pair fit for sore eyes,or do they make your eyes
sore looking at them!
June 28, 2003 john
Ok so the 1st one was bad enough,but check this one out.
Here\'s another.......Shame on you Riney
June 28, 2003 John @ Magnolia stamps
Lets try againtry
it again
June 28, 2003 John@ Magnolia stamps
here is another example of what a thief trys to get away with!what
a rippoff Simply cut the perfs off and make up a price!
June 28, 2003 21:37:04 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Jim G., I agree with the Godiva Belgian Dark Chocolate, we had them on
sale here a few weeks ago at 2/$5.00... :-)
Bruce, the only places I'd expect that you would ever use the 2400 DPI
resolution would be in blowups of a specific area on the stamp. Scan the stamp
at 2400, then crop out the portion you need. It would allow you to pretty
exactly point out differences between a genuine and forged stamp, for example.
Here's an example of where I scanned at 600 DPI (maximum optical for my
scanner), then cut the appropriate portions out for inclusion on my album page.
The two flanking pages to this one are more examples.
June 28, 2003 John@Magnolia Stamps/ not whitford
stark
Joy in N.H.
We don't have an A&P here but we do have Food World and Big Star and of
course Wal Mart and thats about what the price is everywhere around here.2 pints
for 4 bucks. So pack up and come on down!we can always use another yankee down
here!
John
June 28, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>
New high res scanner, 2400dpi
Have my new Canon working, the one that has 2400 optical (and was not very
expensive, really). It generally works fine, and has a bunch of nice software.
*However*, as for the high-res: I tried a 2400 scan of a 2.5x4" dealer card with
some stamps in it, and guess what? a 33MB file resulted (but my, what detail!
And it didn't really take long to scan with USB2 - I believe USB2 is faster even
than SCSI, which I use at work).
I checked the documentation, and here's what the estimated file sizes are for
low & high res, before any compression, on a fairly busy letter-size doc:
100dpi: 2.8MBs. 2400dpi: 1.6GBs (yes, that is gigabytes). It's an expontential
file-size increase for each doubling of the res, the doc even says so. Not
exactly the kind of res for web usage, even with a lot of compression. Maybe
useful for super-detailed analysis, I suppose...
June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Back from the ASDA Santa Clara show.
The biggest news out of the show is that next year's WESTPEX is moving. This
is apparently a result of a number of factors, the largest being that the
Cathedral Hill Hotel has reportedly been sold and will be torn down to make room
for a hospital or some such. But there've been a lot of problems in recent
years, with the show getting crowded and the hotel and the fire marshall giving
them grief. It's also moving to a week later. The new location is further down
the peninsula, south of the airport (the Marriott, I think).
I didn't have a lot of luck at the show, although I did pick up
this NH 420 with a clean PF cert.
Ice cream
My latest passion is Godiva Belgian Dark Chocolate. I guarantee that ice
cream doesn't come any chocolatier than this stuff. Just amazing.
john@magnolia stamps - yeah, my collection is pretty sparse before
1900. But I'm 37, and I've got a good 30 years of collecting in front of me, so
I can take my time and collect exactly what I want.
Jim
June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Joy
Almost all of the early Central American stamps were also issued as officials.
Here are some
"official volcanoes.
I love Cherry Garcia, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
June 28, 2003 Brian McInturff <turff49@aol.com>
Prometheus:
Are you a member of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society?
June 28, 2003 6:15 p.m. Joy Tilton <joylark@earthlink.net>
Ice Cream
John Witford Stark: Where? Ben and Jerry's 2pts. for $4.00? What State - I'm
moving! It's more like $3.49 per pt. here in NH at best store price, the unless
there's a special running! Alas, no A&P! My favorite - Coffee Heath Bar Crunch,
2nd - Cherries Garcia. I think I'll run out and get some. Shame on all of you
talking ice cream, some of us want to keep our fetching figures. Hard to stick
to good eating habits when Ben and Jerry's comes to mind! I'll just put my nose
back in my stamp album again so I can forget quickly. (I'm finding stamp study
can be addictive, too!)
Just kidding about ice cream. I need no help to think about or desire it. Just
have to keep the will power intact! I'll probably dream of Ben and Jerry's Ice
Cream tonight! That will do less harm than eating it!
Joy %:')
June 28, 2003 5:51 p.m. Joy Tilton <joynest1@earthlink.net>
Volcano Stamps/Nicaragua
John----Stark:(Iomoon) I saw your remarks and pics of Nicaragua volcanoes. Went
to my old 1800s album. I have close to 100 stamps from Nicaragua. One comment:
That site after your 5 stamps...I've never seen such a terrible display and the
colors were horridly washed out. I like to check stamps out on sites and the
asking prices. At his prices, if only at his quality, ten of my stamps would be
worth more than $600 and mine, though hinged are beautifully colored, sharp and
clean and very few are cancelled (lightly). I feel lucky and grateful that issue
came up on the Chat. It really does help to educate me! How can a professional
(I say it lightly, but assume) have the nerve to present such huge numbers of
washed out blurry stamps from so many nations? Or are some scanners that poor? I
should get one, and if they are, I wouldn't want the brand he has, or is there a
trick to getting good scans? (I went further and checked out a few other
countries while at the site) Most of those stamps also look as though they've
been through the "laundry". I doubt I'll waste my time again on that site. Does
he really sell those poor quality stamps? Another question: Are "Franqued
Oficial" (Nicaragua) stamps worth much, or anything? I have numbers of those,
too. Thanks for your help.
Joy
June 28, 2003 Prometheus
Brian McIn = Reply
I too collect tied Christmas seals mostly on Postcards,
June 28, 2003 john@magnoia stamps
io
Yummmmmmmm!
June 28, 2003 Brian McInturff <turff49@aol.com>
New to board
Thought I'd introduce myself. I don't frequent the ebay chat board but have
frequented Richard Frajola's board so a lot of the posters should recognize me.
I collect classics and Christmas seals(odd combination ain't it) One of my
exhibits is Christmas Seals tied on covers. Just wanted to introduce myself. :)
Lavar, I can sympathize with you on the age thing. Sorry to here about the
cousin.
June 28, 2003 16:36 Lavar Taylor
Greetings to all. Sorry I have been a stranger, but work and the death of the
son of a cousin to whom I am close have kept me off of the internet recently.
Looks like I missed most of the discussion on the eBay board regarding scanning
of watermarks. I hope someone has saved those comments.
Today I played organized softball-- only the second time (last week was the
first time) since the mid-80's. Managed a couple of hits, couple of walks, an
RBI and a bruised leg. That will teach me to indulge in hobbies other than
stamps. I have no doubt that (at age 45) I was the oldest one on the field, but
had fun anyway.
Knud-Erik, sorry to learn about your suspension. I have already said lots of
bad things about that particular ebay policy, so I will bite my tongue now.
June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Currently, two 1 pint tubs of Cherry Garcia are $4.00 at A&P.
June 28, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Stamp ID ... help needed
Hello, need some help to correctly ID this stamps.
1 - Australia 5/- Roo
FRONT
and
WATERMARK, Scott # for this one is?
2 - Can anyone confirm if this one is
TRANSVAAL #47 (at least looks like to me but don't have any other reference
exemplar)
Regards
Mauro
June 28, 2003 john
Chris
I don't what ice cream cost where your at but down here in Ms. it will cost
anywhere from .50 cents to $1.75.I do know a place in Ala.on hwy 72 where a
large cone with 3 scoops is a paultry $1.25 u.s. I think its odd how the prices
will vary from place to place,here a medium D.Q. is $1.25 and in Fla on I-10 its
$2.50...Kind of like cigerettes here are $1.95 to $2.65 for major brands and as
low as .85 cents for the off brands,where as in N.Y.C. they are $7.50 per pack
...Talk about a differance!
June 28, 2003 sveiki!
Chris Often you don't get those options in smaller towns. The prices
shown are pretty normal. For a medium soft serve you could find prices about a
third lower than shown - but you really need to be on the outlook for them.
Langelinie is a very popular place with lots of tourists - hence the prices.
Retail prices in Denmark are always with VAT (Value Added Tax) included. To get
the price without VAT you need to decrease the price with 20% (VAT is 25% on all
goods - ALL goods). {:o)
June 28, 2003 Now Chris
Sveiki!'s photos
I was looking at them and got curious about what the ice cream cost in US
dollars.
Fortunately the web provides numerous currency converters.
A few conversions showed that the ice cream is pretty expensive by my standards.
A medium soft serve is $3, which is nearly double what I would expect to pay.
A two scoop "Mexicaner" is over $4.
How do these prices compare with ice cream in smaller towns?
Chris - guess what I'm having for dinner tonight.
June 28, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
ebay feedback deadline
It as IO said: a matter of one's skills at ebay. If you work off your "My
Ebay" page it is 30 days. If you go to the leave feedback page from your own
feedback page you can access about 120 days worth of items.
But if you enter the item number in search, it is frequently possible to find an
item older than 120 days and to leave feed back for it.
The only way a buyer can be sure to avoid a retaliatory negative feedback from a
seller is if the seller has already left his feedback (which he should have
done).
June 28, 2003 Bill Weiss
Mounts
I am back for awhile then will be away for 4-5 hours. I was suprised at the
amount of comments on the subject of mounts. I guess I opened up Pandora's box!
I don't particulary advocate Hawid mounts specifically, but rather the
open-on-3-sides concept as against the slit-in-the-middle concept. (Can you
imagine if a non-philatelist was reading this crap, what they would think of our
minds!!). Anyway, there's no question that the stamps are easier to handle and
examine in a Hawid-like mount, but that's not why I care. I care because I've
seen a goodly number of GOOD mint stamps devalued by the slit, which is very sad
to see. It first happened to...you guessed it...ME. I had placed my set of Zepps
(Cost $300. many years ago) in Showguards, on a black card, in a bank safety
deposit box with other good material, and years later the damn slits had left
marks on the gum. After that I saw it many times as a dealer/auction house, so
my only concern with any mount is what affect it could have on a stamp.
June 28, 2003 sveiki!
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Today, we went on a sightseeing through the town of Copenhagen.
On the last part of our sightseeing tour I took
this photo shoot. For
the pleasure of ice cone lovers reading this board, I took a photo of the price
list at the pier kiosk situated at the end of Langelinie (Long Line). The
Langelinie is where cruise ships are to be found during the summer period, which
can be seen on the 12 photos. The grey ship is from the Irish Navy. {:o)
June 28, 2003 john@Magnolia stamps
Jim Griffith
I looked through your album that you posted,It looked kind of naked in the
early years,I could loan you a few if you would like!
June 28, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
mounts and pages
Jim - Tightwad is such an ugly word, I prefer monetarily challenged.
For those who can't print out wide album pages (like me, because I only buy
the cheapest printers) you can print them out on standard sheets of paper and
then photocopy those onto blank album pages. With a little practice you can even
get them fairly well centered within the album page border. Most copiers I've
seen, including small desk models, can handle the wide paper. I use G&K blank
pages......because they're cheaper than Scott.....natch.
June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Unofficial Royal Mail update
June 28, 2003 7:03:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Jim, your volcanoes are mint, the one offered in that auction is
described as postally used. Scott doesn't list it in used, but SG and Michel
both do. My catalogs are old, so I don't know if his pricing matches anything...
And I can't see the cancel on his crummy scan.
June 28, 2003 6:52:24 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Mounts etc.
Jim Griffith, I thought about laser printers when I was looking for a
printer as well, but I've had problems in the past with laser printed pages
sticking to a binder. When the paper gets too warm (such as sitting in a non-air
conditioner house) the toner softens. The HP ink doesn't seem to run when moist
like the Canon or Epson inks do. (Just checked a cover page that had something
spilled on it, very minimal blurring in the splash)
June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Paul
Too complicated for Addie!!
June 28, 2003 6.41am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim W-S you did miss some "volacanoes" (sic). I can't comment on price.
Paul
June 28, 2003 6.37am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Are these more of Addies' wares, this time not referred to as fakes:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2937576671&category=703
Paul
June 28, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Did I miss something?
Apart from the
usual pathetic ipix picture did the value
of these
really increase that much?
June 28, 2003 6.03am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim from that 1921 issue onwards, all French Post Offices in Egypt
(Alexandria and Port Said) issues were denominated in piastres and milliemes.
All previous issues were denominated in francs and centimes. The reason for
adopting the local currency at that time was probably significant exchange rate
problems, as you mentioned. Indo China stamps changed from francs and centimes
to piastres and cents in 1919 for similar reasons.
Paul
June 28, 2003 Alec McGrattan
Italian Query
Thanks David. Very much appreciated.
June 28, 2003 05:45 Jim Watson
Stampass,
Try this.
Paul,
The local (Egyptian) currency was milliemes and piasters at the time. Stamps of
foreign Post Offices were most often denominated in currency of the home
country. For France this was centimes and francs. The issue which was in use in
French POs in Egypt before this surcharge to change the currency was in c. and
f. I don't think the change was just to accommodate the local currency although
there might have been some local pressure to do so. I think it does have
something to do with currency speculation schemes but I haven't anything
specific to cite.
June 28, 2003 5.16am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim Watson I presume the reason for the overprints is that the currency
changed from francs and centimes to piastres and milliemes in 1921.
Paul
June 28, 2003 stampass
Watson..where's Sherlock?
June 28, 2003 05:02 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a First Day Cover from the
French Post Office
in Alexandria in 1921.
June 28, 2003 David Benson
Paolo should be able to enlighten you on all the marks and rates but the Orange
strait line and the date are from the originating office, the letters in a
scroll and the cicular markings are Neapolitan, as to value, not much,
David Benson
June 28, 2003 David Benson
Alec, it is from LECCE which is on the heel of Italy,
see,
http://www.italyrentals.com/hotels/italy/hotel_finder_lecce.htm
David Benson
June 28, 2003 Alec
Questions Link
Sorry forgot the link.
http://uk.msnusers.com/InflaAlec/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=124
June 28, 2003 Alec
Vorphilatelie Italy ?
Help please in trying to id this pre stamp cover. Italian destination Naples
from November 1836. But as to where it orinated and what the marks all mean no
idea. It's not something I collect but curious as to what it is and if it has
any real value.
June 28, 2003 3.23am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Thanks, Maarten.
June 28, 2003 Maarten Willems
currency
NT$ = New Taiwan dollar
June 28, 2003 2.02am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
For the first time, I have come across a seller, based in Australia, using NT$
in an eBay auction. What currency is NT$?
June 28, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Mounts etc.
Bjorn, I'm nore concerned with presentation than what dealers think, as I
plan on having my collection for 30 years or more, on the web the whole time.
Bill, lessee, I use PageMaker and a HP 5000 laserprinter. I decided to
pay the extra cost for the more expensive printer for two reasons. One, inkjet
printer lines are ever so slightly squiggly. Two, the ink runs when wet (like
when you're applying Showgards). But I started using a Canon bubblejet.
*Technically*, duplicating their borders may be a copyright violation, BTW.
But then my pages have Scott numbers visible, so I'm hardly one to talk...
Richard, don't get me started on non-standard Showgards. Since I nest
my mounts in fixed-width frames on the page, I can see whenever they deviate.
They've got a regular problem with mounts being slightly non-rectangular -
slanted to left or right (particularly the JVs, but also the E's). Very
annoying. Worse for me is that I occasionally buy a package only to find that
the back plastic is thin, making the background grey and slightly opaque. There
was a period of 6 months where I couldn't find a size 66 package anywhere in
northern California that wasn't grey.
David and Bill, I've heard of a couple of other collectors who hinge
their Showgards. It saves money when a page needs to be redone. I can't really
do that because I frame my mounts on the page, and the movement from hinges
makes it look bad. So I pay a *buttload* for Showgards.
Richard - tightwad... :-)
Anyways, off to bed.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Bjorn Langoren
Mounts etc.
Never tried Showgard mounts, as it looked like a labourous process just to get
the stamps in there, and some risk of bending the stamps during insertion. I
expect the precess is the same going out. I think in general dealers don't like
Hawid at all. They're not as bad as the tube mounts, but I expect it takes a lot
more time to inspect a collection in Showgard mounts than Hawid mounts or
hinges. That fact alone might detract from the value of a collection, as the
dealer will inspect fewer items, and discount mint stamps that were not
inspected on both sides. Alternatively, the dealer will inspect them all, and
subtract the cost of the extra time spent from his offer.
June 27, 2003 22:38:50 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Mounts and Pages
I also hinge my mounts to the pages, though I use Scott or Prinz rather than
Showguard because I like the black background better than the blue. I use
Pagemaker to layout my pages and print on the 9¼ x 11¼ paper, though I have a
few thousand sheets of the Specialty size as well for use in priting pages for
friends. I print using an HP 1220C inkjet printer, which easily handles much
wider paper than I'm likely to ever need (13" wide). I have also duplicated the
Scott Specialty border on my pages, as can be seen in the newer countries shown
on my web site. Eventually everything will end up migrated to Scott
International binders with slip cases. I'm evaluating the jumbo vs. regular
sized binders right now, with Turkey going into a jumbo and Argentina going into
a regular... I'm currently leaning toward the regular binders, since I've seen
some issues with the back edge of the page resting against the binder spine with
the Jumbo.
June 27, 2003 22:23 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
Hinges
My favorite
hinge.
June 27, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Oh yeah, another downside to my slitting method is that some sizes of showgards
don't have the back slit at exactly the halfway point, which means you may wind
up with 2 different size mounts. I've gotten pretty good at trimmimg the
oversized ones down with a large paper cutter though.
June 27, 2003 9:27 pm Richard Ballhagen
(spain_1850)
mount damage
Never seen the damage described by showgards, but then I probably don't pay as
much attention to the gum. Whenever a discussion starts up about Showgards vs.
Scott's vs. Hawids, I feel the need to point out that if you are a fan of Hawids,
but are budget minded like me, you can buy Showgard or Scott strips and slit the
clear front covering in the same exact spot as the slit on the black back side,
and effectively double the amount of mounts you have, which is cheaper than
buying the exact size of Hawids in strips. You just need to make sure you
measure properly the stamp size and gauge it at half of the showgard mount size.
The downside is that for some stamp sizes there is not an exact size Showgard
strip that will yield exactly the size you need by slitting them. But, the cost
savings for me outweighs the 1mm or so difference in size.
I know this sounds a bit wacky, so I won't bother to mention that I also cut
stamp hinges in 2 to double the amount of hinges I can use as well....and don't
get me strated on 2-ply toilet paper.
June 27, 2003 21:25 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>
Mounts
I hinge my mounts.
David
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Mounts
Bill, I don't have a lot of experience with Hawid mounts. But they won't
work for a number of issues that I have. Anything diamond-shaped, for instance,
will continually fall out (and for U.S., check out the
folk art,
minerals, and
even the triangular
Pacific '97 issues to see what I'm talking about). I've also got many
full-page issues, and I doubt that Hawid mounts would work (or are even
available?) for those sizes.
I maintain my pages in Scott National binders within slipcases, always
standing upright, and never over-filled. My collection is 600 pages spread over
5 3" and 1 1" binder. There should be no pressure placed on the stamps except
for gravity on the bottom perfs. So I'm not too worried about Showgard lines.
But I wasn't even aware that it's an issue, so I'll keep an eye on them, going
forward.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>
Album page size
Yes, Jim - 8.5x11 should do fine for many or most people. But like you, I also
have quite a lot of "wide" items that 8.5 doesn't cover (especially with
border), and though increasing to only the 9.25 width I use isn't much more, the
little extra space makes all the difference in the world on some larger
multiples, sheets, and covers.
But actually the main reason I got sucked into larger size is that I had about
20 Scott Specialities already (well over 2000 pages), then I bought the full
Scott "Brown" WW pages, also numbering several thousand, in addition to a
minority of assorted other sizes & shapes. I collected that way for awhile, but
was not happy with the assortment of housing. But I was pretty much boxed in to
either Brown Int'l size or the slightly larger Specialty size at that point, if
I wanted to make all my housing uniform, which was my goal. 8.5x11 would've
meant copying all 5000+ pages onto smaller paper, and having some things not fit
after all that. So it was a choice between either the Brown (Int'l) size or the
Specialty size (either choice meant over 2500 pages to be copied), and after
measuring items and testing binders, I found the 9.25x11.25 just barely adequate
in width. For binders, the 2-post Int'ls won hands down. I love 'em. So that was
my lifelong-collection decision, made several years ago, and after about 2 years
of finding a good wholesale paper supplier, a good labeling device for binders,
copying pages ad nauseum, and transfering my entire Specialty collection and
other various page brands (mostly Classic-era stamps, BTW) to the new pages,
also ad nauseum (except the Brown page set, which were the right size as they
were), I'm finally sitting next to a really impressive set of housing in 2
bookcases. It's housing like many people probably dream about...I know I did
before I went through this process (ordeal is a better word, perhaps).
Not necessarily would I recommend this housing to anyone, it cost over $10000
for the kit & kaboodle, and a super-human amount of determination and labor -
but it's simply the best-housed, most attractive collection I've ever seen. I
use Canvas Pro to produce pages, and it can make exact duplicates of the "Scott
Specialized look." And $10000 sounds like a lot, but heck, I've spent that much
on references, nevermind how much I've spent on stamps. And, you gotta be happy
with your housing, I finally decided housing was as important to me as anything
in collecting. I spent years not being particularly happy with my disparate
pages and binders, a real hodgepodge of assorted different pages and binders,
not attractive at all.
Of course this ordeal ate up my stamp budget for some 2 years, and that was
indeed a major drawback, lest anyone be thinking about fantastic housing plans
such as I've done...and it may appear that I'm collecting "housing" more than
collecting stamps, which was quite true for 2 years :-) Only temporarily,
though, I'm back to all-stamps now after that "slight detour." To make a short
story long, as they say...
June 27, 2003 20:36 COVERWIZ
Mount Damage
Yes, I have seen a number of better coleections in Showgard and Scott Mounts
with the damage Mr. Weiss describes. I suspect that the damage also occurs
during mounting when an impatient collector licks and positions the mount with
the stamp already enclosed. Though Crystal Mounts are by far the worse, followed
by the early plastic ones sealed on all sides...
I have used Hawid mounts for years for the same reasons. Personally I've
never had any problems with stamps falling out.
June 27, 2003 8:04PM Bill Weiss
Mounts
JIM; I am not crazy about Showguard mounts or any others that have an open slit
in the middle. I have seen a fair share of mint stamps with gum damage caused by
that slit. I believe it's a combination of pressure + slight moisture in the
air. I am a much bigger fan of Hawid or some other similar mounts where it is
open on 3 sides. I know such as Hawid do not give as much enclosed protection as
a Showguard so one must be careful when turning pages, but I would rather take
my chances with that kind of mount. Are there any other dealers who check this
board? I wonder if anyone else has seen this mount-slit gum damage I'm
describing? If so, please chime in.
June 27, 2003 Brian R
where is my stamp?--update
My bank says he hasn't cashed the check (like you could get very far on that
amount anyway, LOL) So, I'll just sit back and let time work this one out.
Thanks to all for listening and giving advice.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Album questions
Chuck, I get a stamp certified if it has a CV of $100 or higher. I
occasionally buy stamps with a lower CV that already have a cert. And I'll
occasionally get a lower-valued stamp expertized if it's notorious for tampering
(like the Kansas/Nebraskas and the coils from 1908-10.
Don't get too depressed, Chuck. First off, it took me five years to develop
the process, do the work and get everything finished and online, and it cost me
a lot of money to do so (money which I didn't spend on stamps, I'll point out).
Second, I'm very anal about my collection - to the point of pointlessness. It's
hard to build a site like mine without both that much time and that level of
anal-retentiveness, so most people should be *proud* that they don't have a site
like mine...
Bruce, I probably would have used 8½x11" paper if it weren't for the
large number of wide issues that I have. My laserprinter also cost me $1500 (HP
Laserjet 5000), because of the wider format requirement.
Bill, I strictly use Showgards. I use pre-cuts whenever possible, and
I've got literally every size they make on hand for whatever issue I run across.
My latest annoyance is the new American Filmmaking sheet, for which there isn't
a proper size, and the nearest available size is 6mm too large. And they're not
going to issue a new size for it either, dammit. Anyways, I always claim that
I'm responsible for most of the GNP of Liechtenstein (where Showgards are made).
For those who like my stuff, I did the best I could to document what I use
and do, and there's a page on the site describing my tools.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Bill Weiss
Jim's Collection
JIM; I just spent a few moments looking at your album pages. Great job! Tell me,
what kind of mounts are you using?
June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>
Scanners & oversize
Nice site, Jim. I hear you on oversize page difficulties, though with me it's
copiers, since I "borrow" all types of commercial pages I like (and produce a
lot of my own on letter-size paper), and copy them all onto uniform custom-made
9.25 x 11.25 80 lb paper (almost identical to Scott Specialty, it is) to go into
my (current #) 45 Scott Int'l regualr-size binders, the kind I prefer over all
others. I had to spend $1500 for a decent copier for this, and it takes up 1/3
of a room. Darn fast, though.
I agree on 300 dpi, even 100 or 200 is often sufficient for me. I don't know
what 2400dpi will be good for, I can see it's going to be rather slow scanning,
and very large file size...maybe plating or the wmk scanning we were discussing
on the "old" board...
June 27, 2003 Chuck Harm
On-line Album
Jim
Just spent 20 minutes browsing your album. I am depressed now at the pathetic
mounting and display that I do. Do you have a criterium for which stamps you
procure certs for? It looks like you collect vf or nearly vf stamps. Do you
collect hinged or NH? You collection has a lot of overlap with my US collection
so I will be examining some of the stamps more closely as I am currently engaged
in a quality audit of some of the earlier issues and your single images have
enough resolution to see die differences.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Scanners
I have two scanners - an HP of some sort (good quality), and a Mustek A3-sized
scanner for my album pages. Both scan up to 1200. When I scan individual stamps,
I scan at 300 and use the resulting scans as is. When I scan full pages, I scan
at 300 and reduce the scans 50%. There's a decided difference in quality between
my two scanners - the Mustek sucks.
On my site, individual stamp images through Scott #703 were done with the HP.
All individual images after that and all full-page images were done with the
Mustek. I'd *love* to dump the Mustek for something else, but it's quite
literally the only reasonably-priced scanner (flatbed or otherwise) that can
handle a 10½" wide page.
For me, there's no value in scanning larger than 300, because the size of the
resulting images is just too great. As it is, I've got about 420MB of
stamp-related images on my site, with another 50MB of other stuff, with a quota
of 500MB.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell
High res scanner
Okay, sure, Bill - *if* I can upload a 2400 dpi with 56K in a reasonable time
:-) I'm gonna try to get it hooked up and scanning by tomorrow. Some nice
software came with it, too. Man, when I think back what I paid about 8 years ago
for just a really slow 600dpi B&W scanner...
Anyway, my last scanner is 600 with so-called 2400 enhancement, too. That extra
enhanced dpi never seemed to do much for me, not the same as optical - unless I
never used it right or something.
June 27, 2003 17:49 David Moser <stamphick@dospalos.org>
Jim G... True that silliness, ego, and worldwide derision isn't exclusive
to the French but they are certainly the global leaders.
David
June 27, 2003 17:40:28 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Hello, new scanner
Bruce, you're going to have to link us a 2400 DPI scan of something. It
should show pretty darn good detail! I'm not sure what happens when I scan at
2400, I beieve it actually does 600 optical and interpolates the remainder on my
HP.
June 27, 2003 17:38:10 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Negative Feedback
Brian, have you tried a voice call to the seller? That method has worked
wonders for me in the past when emails are getting ignored.
June 27, 2003 Bruce Campbell <cb@classicbruce.com>
http://www.classicbruce.com
Hello, new scanner
Say, this board is getting busy, good. We certainly can use a more "free-speech"
oriented alternate that has a decent following.
UPS just delivered new Canon USB2 scanner, I've been scan-disabled since I went
to new PC & XP: no selling, no posts with scans for opinions, etc., kind of
frustrating. I now have a seemingly preposterous 2400 dpi res (that's optical).
Seems like overkill, though maybe for minute details, it may be useful...kind of
fun, anyway, new toy to play with...
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Brian, silliness, ego, and worldwide derision isn't exclusive to the
French.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Brian R
the french still matter?
Maybe, the French government is leaning on ebay, because its the only entity the
French could find, that even remotely cares what they think anymore.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
France
Ken, it's very odd that eBay didn't launch (and win) an ICANN appeal of
iBazaar's squatting on "ebay.fr". Oh, wait, ".fr" probably doesn't fall in
ICANN's jurisdiction, which is why the French courts ruled (those boneheads).
Jim
June 27, 2003 David Benson
bjorn, I am not taking Ebay's side but Knud got 5 warnings. I think that is fair
and even though I do not agree with Ebay's stance, it is their policy and
sellers should know the rulings and it was 5 strikes and your out for a month.
If any seller keeps on listing after getting 5 warnings about any breaking of
their rules they are lucky to only get one month, it could have been life.
David Benson
June 27, 2003 16:07 Ken Srail
France and eBay
Jim, eBay does have a presence in France and it's been a rather
stormy
relationship so far...
June 27, 2003 15:51 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Suspension and Swastikas
It's odd that Knuden would be suspended after just one item - who tipped eBay
off? This is stupid. I've seen (and bid on too) quite a few Norwegian censor
covers with swastikas on them, and have never seen any of them dissapear. But I
noticed one seller in Argentina who started painting black over the swastika
part of the seals (on the scan, not the actual cover!). Of course, anyone even
slightly familiar with this stuff would know what was there.
Is ebay.de off limits to users registered in France?
June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Actually Jim, I think 90 days is the absolute max from the end of the
auction, not the last transaction. At that point item is removed from ebay data
files.
In either case, its 2 months longer than most people are led to suspect.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
IO - Jim, ah, then it's not actually possible to prevent a retaliatory
negatie - you can just make it a little harder to do, depending on how
knowledgeable the other person is. That sucks, although it makes some sense.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
suspensions etc
Dave P - say that a user tries to register in a "restricted zone". How
does eBay verify that the user *isn't* in France, especially if the user is
perfectly willing to enter false information to gain access? eBay has no way to
verify that someone isn't actually in France, which is why they don't do what
you suggest.
On eBay, you simply click a button which says "I'm 18" to get at adult
material (I just tried it for the first time, to see what's involved). That sort
of thing isn't 'good enough' for the French Nazi law, at least not when Yahoo!
tried dealing with it.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jim
Length of feedback period depends on how good you are at manoeuvering on eBay.
If you do not go beyond "my ebay page" it is 30 days.
If you use "feedback forum" it was (and probably still is) 90 days (its been a
while since I've had a feedback go beyond 30 days).
If one person leaves a feedback about the other, you have up to 90 days from
when that remark was posted (using the link accessible via your feedback
number).
If you look at your own feedback pages and auction numbers are still underlined
in blue (default color), you can still leave feedback.
Just looked at Colin's and his goes back to March 26th.
June 27, 2003 Dave P
suspensions etc
Jim
I think it would be possible to block countries from the Nazi stuff. Simply put
it in a restricted zone that requires special registration, and then deny
registration to anyone in those countries where it is illegal - exactly what
they do with adult material now. As I said, the revenue generated would probably
not justify the hassle from their point of view.
June 27, 2003 Brian R
BTW- Very good idea to check the bank (I can do that electonically) If the check
has been cashed, he's getting a neg, even if it means I get realiation.
If not, I'll even give him another month, to recover or whatever. The only
reasons I'm so patient are: A)I like to think I'm a nice guy, and B)What seller
is going to intentionally risk his perfect feedback over $4?
June 27, 2003 Charles L. Williams <cwilliam@joplin.com>
Prohibited items
Knud-Erik... ebay's Nazi prohibition is totally ridiculous and
discriminatory, but ruthlessly consistent. My condolences. I suggest in the
future you sell this material on ebay.de. I did a little testing last year when
this first came up. I ran some material on ebay.com - they subsequently deleted
it - I re-listed the exact material with no change in description whatsoever on
ebay.de - and lo and behold, it sold with no interruption. Go figure!
June 27, 2003 Brian R
the disappearing seller
Guillaume The seller has nothing currently up and his last feed back was
6/7. It has occured to me that he might be ill (or worse). On the other hand,
he's been a seller since 1999 with only 230 (all good) feedback, so he's not a
prolific lister.
I would hate to neg some poor guy who is recoving from a heart attack or
something :o( It's not much money, and while I still want the stamp, I could
live just as well without it. I'd be happy if I was only contacted to say hold
on awhile longer.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Negative Feedback
Brian, it probably goes without saying, but in case it doesn't, if you
plan on leaving negative feedback, wait until the absolute last minute to do so
(whatever that is - I don't know). It's become a matter of policy for eBay users
to leave retaliatory negatives, even when they're in the wrong. My sister, who
isn't wise in the ways of eBay, didn't know that, left a justified negative long
before the feedback deadline, and was upset when her "10" rating was spoiled by
a retaliatory negative.
Can someone remind me what the feedback period is?
Jim
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
France and eBay
guillaume, well, yes and no. The French can pass any laws they want, but
unless and until you enter their jurisdiction, it doesn't mean much. I believe
eBay actually operates offices in France and maintains some sort of business
presence there, which is why they took it seriously. Ditto Yahoo!, who was
actually taken to court over it. In other words, if a country has the ability to
seize some of your assets, that's when you start respecting their laws.
In another exteme example, there's some French University which operates at
least one satellite campus in the U.S. (Atlanta or some such). Last I heard, the
French government was giving them grief because the satellite campus' web page
was in English only, and French law required it to be in French.
The French are goofy in a couple of ways. First, they've got the whole Nazi
thing (which the Germans also have, although they have different priorities).
Second, the French have a serious fear that their language is going to be
destroyed, and they have de facto language police who do things like hassle
French web sites for not supporting French properly.
Jim
June 27, 2003 2:15 pm Bob in WA
Knuden suspension
Knud-Erik -- Very sorry to hear of your suspension. It just shows how
screwed up eBay is if they suspend someone like you while allowing crooks and
scammers to continue fleecing the gullible with their altered crap. And whoever
turned you in is a real lowlife, in my opinion. Sorry you have to put up with
such nonsense, but you know you have much moral support here.
June 27, 2003 David Benson
Brian, have you checked your bank statement to see if check has been debited,
David Benson
June 27, 2003 Guillaume
Brian: I hate it when that happens. Problem is, do you want to ruin your
own feedback (retaliation) over 4 bucks? Did you check if there is any recent
activity by that seller - so you know he is not ill or something?
June 27, 2003 Brian R
advice?
I won a small ebay lot a little over 4 weeks ago. Payed that day, and so far, no
stamps. 4 e-mails have gone unanswered. Ironically, the seller has perfect
feedback which seems weird for the level disinterest apparent.
I haven't ever left a neg before, but this one, is getting close. I've
decided to send one more e-mail and wait ten days(six weeks exact) then ruin his
perfect record. I don't know what else to do.
Two other things to take into consideration:
This was a check payment, my e-mails have been to the tune of "Did you get this
payment?"
All this worry is over a $4 dollar lot, and of course, the principal involved in
it.
Am I being too harsh?
June 27, 2003 Guillaume
Protecting people against themselves
One more comment regarding the nazi-issue. Since I live in Belgium, I cannot
access adult material and certain Third Reich stuff on eBay (similar laws), I
get a message stating something like "since you live in a country that does not
allow the sale of this material, you are not allowed to view this item". How
come they can block me from running auctions and not the French? Why do they
keep these auctions running in the first place if they do not want the legal
hassle?
June 27, 2003 Richard W
certs
Further to my earlier queries, I have just acquired on Ebay two items
accompanied by photocopies of certificates without illustrations. Impressed?
(Just as well I know the material is good!)
June 27, 2003 Richard W
nazis
Perhaps in France there is still something of an uneasy conscience about the
Vichy period?
June 27, 2003 Richard W
Jim - thanks. I'd be interested to know. Io - Harrow, yes, that's
the one.
June 27, 2003 Guillaume
Point well taken. I just do not understand how the French could have
such jurisdiction over an American based company. So, basically - and concerning
this particular issue - one country is hijacking the whole internet? As soon as
a Frenchman has access to, for instance, a site in Mongolia selling nazi-stuff
they can have it shut down? Ridiculous!
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Stampdile
Richard, I dunno, and I won't be attending the show until tomorrow. I'll
try to remember to see if he's there.
Unfortunately, most of my budget for tomorrow was blown when I won four lots
at the latest Siegel auction (one of which it turns out I already have - and
better than what I just won, too, dammit). So I'm not going to get to do as much
buying as I'd hoped to do.
Jim
June 27, 2003 nomad55
Richard W.....send your concerns to Ed Hines
June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Richard
No that you mention it, I thought name was familiar.
A few years back a young English entrepreneur with an Indian name begining with
"A" (my memory is going) commented with a certain disfavor on a seller in
Harrow.
June 27, 2003 Richard Warren
Stampdile at Santa Clara
Jim Griffith - Thank you, Jim. That confirms what I heard. But I wonder
if he actually took up the stand and traded? Did anyone there notice? Stampdile
sells all kinds of nasty rubbish including Myanmar illegals, trading on Ebay as
"stamps2buy" - hence my interest. He's been banned elsewhere. But then, what
does ASDA care ...
June 27, 2003 David Benson
Bill, I had a look at the buyers history, he has bought a few lots of forgeries,
maybe he is of that ilk. Some people collect strange material.
David Benson
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Bleah.
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Suspensions & Nazi Stuff
Dave P
, I believe that eBay's position on the whole France and Nazi thing is that
even if they detect and block French IP's or domain names, there's nothing that
prevents a Frenchman from getting access to the material through some other
source, like Yahoo! or Hotmail. As such, even if eBay did what you suggest,
they'd still be technically in breach of the decision by that bonehead of a
French judge. It's not technically possible to block "everyone from a country"
as the French require. While I'm not thrilled with the eBay policy, the real
culprit here is the French legal system, which has a very large ego and no
understanding of how the Internet functions.
Jim
June 27, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
ASDA Santa Clara
Richard Warren, I haven't been there, but just by
looking here, Stampdile
is supposed to be there.
Jim
June 27, 2003 11.23 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
Japan lot high price
Bill Claghorn
It would seem to me that the 2 bidders hope(d) for some genuine in that
envelope! Always a chance I suppose, but very remote, a bit like the lottery.
Colin
June 27, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
Suspension
If Ebay had the will, it would be perfectly possible for them to have a section
in stamps for 3rd Reich items which was inaccessible to French subscribers. I
presume they feel the revenue gained is not worth the effort.
I just hate all political interference, the ban on Cuban items also irritates
the hell out of me (not that I wish to buy or sell any!).
Knud Eric I add my commiserations.
June 27, 2003 10:07 Jim Watson
Guillaume,
Unfortunately, the swastika suspensions are an eBay defense against the threat
from the French government to shutdown eBay. The French are very active in this
form of censorship. I don't think that America or Americans, in general, are
really supportive of this kind of restriction; certainly I know of no stamp
collectors who favor it. eBay just doesn't have the backbone to tell them to go
'stuff' it. When this first came up with Yahoo!, eBay was struggling to grow and
didn't want to add this sort of a fight to their problems.
That being said, it is clear that some cowardly curmudgeon has singled out Knud-Erik
for special attention. eBay needs to take special attention to offset this kind
of targeting.
Just my ½¢.
June 27, 2003 1630 BST Ed.B
Suspension
Knud Eric: Also sorry to hear about your suspension. As we English say,
'It's all a load of bollox!'
Ed
June 27, 2003 1625 BST Ed.B
IO or OI for the prof.
iomoon: Jim, Please CYE.Have used 'overland'. Another little IO lady for
you.
Ed
June 27, 2003 Guillaume
"Banning propaganda items from sellers who are blatantly advertizing/celebrating
the underlying ideology is completely different from selling historic items
which happen to bear symbols referring to it."
Grammar is not too good here, sorry.
Should be: Banning sellers who are... different from banning people selling
historic items which...
June 27, 2003 Guillaume
Knud-Erik, I find it utterly disgusting that you were suspended for that reason.
I have Russian items with those markings and I treasure them because of their
historic value. My country, like yours and many others, was occupied once by the
Swastika-people and I have the right to know what happened then. It is strange
that a company based in a country that was never occupied would ban this kind of
material so blindly. Also, many Americans died in WWII for the cause of freedom
as well. Is it not important to remember why? Is it not important to study (or
simply be aware of) propaganda in order to ensure that our freedom will never be
jeopardized again by those tactics? Banning propaganda items from sellers who
are blatantly advertizing/celebrating the underlying ideology is completely
different from selling historic items which happen to bear symbols referring to
it. Is it so hard to see the difference? I know WWII veterans and victimized
minorities are sensitive to the matter and I understand that. But I am part of a
new generation and I want to draw lessons from the past. If eBay insists on
being over-the-top politically correct, it should immediately ban all items
relating to Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Mao, Saddam Hussein, various Latin
American dictators etcetera as well.
By the way, Knud-Erik, I second David's suggestion to check out the Delcampe
site. If you need any information, just send me an email - kiompie(at)skynet.be
Sorry for the rant.
June 27, 2003 06:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Why such a high price??
D2 Can you explain why
this Japan lot went for such a high price?
June 27, 2003 05:09 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Suspension
Knud Eric I agree about the need for privacy. ebay only takes action on
these items if someone reports you. Therefore, someone is out to get you.
Be careful!
June 27, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Suspension
Knuden Sorry to hear of your suspension - hopefully you will do good
business on the other sites mentioned.
Just a word to the wise - I wouldn't use your other ID to post on the Ebay Chat
board as, if someone reports you, you will get that ID suspended as well. You
could also be suspended indefinitely for posting while suspended.
Mark.
(Using the word "suspended" far too many times in 1 post)
June 27, 2003 04:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
eBay DE
Knud Eric What about eBay
2936750417 or
2936751222 or
2935953433 or
2936714794 or ... Ah, the list goes on and on.
Perhaps if eBay had a flood of complaints about all of them they would get so
tired that they would finally decide that they can not re-write history.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 27, 2003 Richard W
Try again.
Out of curiosity, did anyone over there who went to the Santa Clara ASDA show
notice whether a UK dealer called Stampdile had a stand, and was selling?
June 27, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Either
this guy needs a geography lesson or Manchuria was a darn sight larger than
I ever thought.
I suppose we can forgive him since few people have a clue as to where Tannu Tuva
is anyway!!
June 27, 2003 Richard Warren
Santa Clara show
Blast. Why didn't that link?
Out of curiosity, did anyone over there who went to the Santa Clara ASDA show
noticw whther a UK dealer called Stampdile had a stand, and was selling?
June 27, 2003 bryan
you might try selling at www.sellyouritem.com listings free and some huge
sellers of wwll stuff there
June 27, 2003 Richard Warren
scanning watermarks
OK. here's what I posted elsewhere. This -
http://www.bilston73.freeserve.co.uk/farmers/wmk.jpg - (sorry, one day I'll
remember to link without the url) is a scan of a block-sized watermark, elephant
& "TITAGHUR SUPERFINE" on laid paper. No perfs, and an example where the
printing has not shown through to the back to interfere with the image of the
watermark. Scan at a reasonable resolution on a black background (no fluid),
then play about with brightness & contrast controls in image processing
software.
June 27, 2003 04:29 Jim Watson
Oxidation and Hydrogen Peroxide
I've had success in removing oxidation from US 6¢ 1918 MNH orange airmail (Scott
C1) with careful use of a cotton swab (Q-tip). Not exactly a fun procedure but
it did work.
June 27, 2003 04:23 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is an airmail(?) cover from
Germany to
Australia in 1937. Meet the Crosbys!
June 27, 2003 Lars Boettger <alpha2@pt.lu>
Knud-Erik:
Translation Champagne-letter:
"As I will start in the coming autumn to introduce your champagne in my
business/shop, I kindly ask you to tell me how many bottles you could provide
(see the enclosed label), waiting expectandly for you reply, with all due
respects..."
This is no word-to-word translation, as the old German handwriting is difficult
to read but it should come fairly close to the meaning.
As this is the first posting on this board, a few words about my person:
Collecting interest: Letters send to and from F. Huth, London, including their
perfins, some may know me via eBay; member in a local stamp club in Luxembourg
and in the APS.
Best regards,
Lars
June 27, 2003 David Benson
knud, try Delcampe,
http://stamps.delcampe.com/main.php?language=E&PHPSESSID=ea6c6f1dc6c3a0e3653a97dc4f9b6b3f
They have a very big following in France and Belgium, try some there, see what
happens.
David Benson
June 27, 2003 02.56 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
D2 - As far I know there is no problems with this kind of material on
Ebay.de. I had started selling these items at Ebay.de but a single cover with a
swastika slipped through and I was suspended. My fault - but there is nothing I
can do at Ebay but wait the 30 days. I will in the meantime try to sell on
another auction site. Any sugestions?
Knud-Erik.
June 27, 2003 David Benson
knud, looks like 5 strikes and your out (for a month). What is the ruling if you
listed the meterial on Ebay Genrmany.
David Benson
June 27, 2003 01.46 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Re: SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
d2 - Hello David. Here is the wording:"Please understand that enforcement
of our policies is not reflective of seller status or feedback. This action has
been taken only after careful consideration of your account history of offenses
for this violation, in accordance with eBay Policies and the eBay User
Agreement."
My fault is I have had listing ended more times (5) at Ebay and this seems to be
the limit. As I have seen other sellers, of this kind of material, selling it
time after time, without being suspended, I'm sure someone has been turning me
in at Ebay more times. :O(
Knud-Erik
June 27, 2003 David Benson
Knud, sorry to hear about your problem but there is nothing you can do but wait
the 30 days. What was the wording on your warning.
David Benson
June 27, 2003 01.04 Knud-Erik (knuden)
SUSPENDED AT EBAY!
I woke up to a mail from Ebay telling me, I have been suspended from Ebay in 30
days for "engaging in activity expressly prohibited on eBay's site after
receiving prior warning to discontinue such activity, specifically: violating
our Offensive Materials guidelines."
My fault is I have been selling German covers with swatsika on. I still don't
understand why it's allowed to sell stamps with these symbols and not covers.
I now have to find another auction site and inform my buyers about it - i
sometimes wish stampcollectors could agree finding another place than Ebay but I
know it's only wihful thinking.
Now I need some strong coffee and a lot of thinking of what to do now.
Knud-Erik.
June 26, 2003 20:35 FERD W.
NOMAD- UPU Int'l post [&postal] cards Airmail rate from US was .36 from Apr.3
1988 to 2 Feb. 1991 . FW
June 26, 2003 20:22:05 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Watermarking via scanner
With all the good thoughts on this process we've seen over the last day
or so, I thought I'd give it a try with some tough subjects.
These [100K] are some stamps from Western Samoa. They are either watermarked
with a 'star and NZ' or a 'star and multiple NZ' or with an inverted version of
one of those watermarks. I should note that using the expensive watermark fluid
and a good tray I was able to see the watermarks on all but one of these stamps.
This shows the same stamps, turned around on the page and scanned dry in
color and
black&white.
I added some Ronsonol lighter fluid and placed my plastic tray over the stamps:
color and
black&white.
I removed the tray and used a flat sheet of plastic to try and get a tighter
seal:
color and
black&white.
Finally, I doused them all with a lot more fluid...
color and
black&white.
It may just be me, or my technique, but I couldn't make out watermarks in any
of those scans. :-(
June 26, 2003 2017 Clark (reperf) <me@gotsomespam.com>
Oxidation
Regarding oxidation on unused stamps with gum:
I have been informed that putting peroxide on some small pieces of sponge and
placing them near the stamp in a tightly closed small box (a sweat box) is
effective for reversing oxidation without completely destroying the gum. The
recommended initial time was an hour, but it could take longer. Take care to
make sure that the gum is not in contact with anything.
Suggest testing with an inexpensive stamp first.
June 26, 2003 7:45PM Bill Weiss
Oxidation
JOHN; I do not believe removing oxidation with peroxide (or an eraser)
constitutes an alteration, and I see no reason to describe it in a future sale.
I do not know if there is any permanent damage done if it is not literally
rinsed off such as the technique you describe. One fellow who I trust once told
me he was able to remove it on mint stamps by using a fine brush, dipped in the
peroxide, then extra lightly brushed onto the face of the stamp.....but he
warned that any excess peroxide could soak into the stamp and ruin the gum. It
always sounded too dangerous to me, so I've never tried it, and don't plan to
anytime soon!
June 26, 2003 Brian R
just an observation
I'm one of the biggest whiners about the USPS "spaming" the collector market
with way too many commemeratives and high value S/S's.
However, I've got to give them a nod for how far the've come in changing
their outlook. Specifically, I'm thinking of the BEP cards provided to shows,
the Pan-Am invert S/S, and the like. What a long road to travel from destroying
the value of the Hammarskold errors.
June 26, 2003 7:30pm John Cunningham
Oxidized Stamps
Bill & Steve..
Thanks for the responses. The two stamps that I am most concerned about are
certified mnh. I was thinking about a 'dry brush' approach with a mild hydro.
peroxide. solution while the stamp was under a light source that produced
moderate heat to aid in evaporation. If I cannot avoid gum disturbance, then I
guess the details don't really matter. If it is considered 'altering' the stamp,
then I want to make sure that the treatment is declared if the item is sold.
Ultimately, I can just immerse the items in solution and kiss the gum goodbye if
need be, but I would like to avoid that if possible. Would there be any long
term detriment to the paper from exposure to the solution if it were not rinsed
away? Thanks!
June 26, 2003 nomad55
Can someone tell me what was the airmail rate for postcards from US to France in
August 1988?
June 26, 2003 6:55PM Bill Weiss
C3a Scam
I believe that design is also cut from a BEP card and how I remembered it was
that (believe it or not!) I was there when the card was issues! It was at the
1973 NAPEX show, which was my first BIG stamp show, and as rookie luck would
have it, I not only had a great show, but our booth got photographed and the
photo was featured in a pretty big DC article about the show. Talk about being
"young and dumb", I was so concerned about all the cash we took in, that I
twisted the arm of an older dealer to give me a check for the cash! DUH!! Can't
imagine doing anything much dumber than that!
June 26, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>
general
Roger, nice to see you having a good time in Wales. (Hopefully you weren't going
there to do 'humpback' sightings?)
June 26, 2003 1700 Prometheus
Stamp Items for sale = Briguy
Noticed today that one of Paul Harvey's Advertizers is the guy /web site that
sells hugh blowups of cancelled stamps poster size.
Must be doing OK to advert Nation wide on Paul Harvey . ??
June 26, 2003 nomad55
Santa Clara show
IMHO a relatively good show, as I picked up a few nice covers, and some oddball
stuff that looked "interesting".
Post Office had flag booklets and missionary sheets, plus the new 25-cent coils
- either in strips of 10 or you could ask them to unroll as many as you wanted.
June 26, 2003 Brian R
Hmmmm my link failedtry
again
June 26, 2003 Brian R (briguy)
a little fun for the board
Here we go again! According to this seller the stamp is a true BEP issue. All it
would need is a trip through upstate NY (for perfs) to make the illusion
complete.
Does anyone else think that these goofy offers are multiplying, due to the
stupid realizations, we've (and the scammers) have recently noticed?
June 26, 2003 2345 BST Ed.B
Spoof or not spoof
My,my, they have been busy today. Not only did I receive that email from *Paypal
but also received one from Ebay and another from Yahoo all saying much the same
thing.
Ed
June 26, 2003 3:36 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp)
'Oxidized' Stamps
Mint stamps are more of a challange. I've had great success using a very small
and fine artists brush using 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Solution (the kind you get at
a drugstore as an antiseptic...beware of other ingredients tho .001% Phosphoric
Acid as a stabilizer is ok). Dip the tip of the brush into the solution and
'paint' the oxidized ink (being careful NOT TO touch exposed uninked paper).
This works very well if only a small portion of the stamp is 'oxidized' but is
extremely tedious if the entire stamp is 'oxidized'.
I've read about using fumes but haven't tried it. I probably would try it for
a stamp whose ink was completely oxidized.
A risk with used stamps is that soaking might effect the cancellation.
I don't consider the use of hydrogen peroxide to reverse a naturally occuring
process as deceptive or unethical (unlike regumming, reperfing, etc). To my mind
it is no different than soaking a used stamp in water to clean it.
June 26, 2003 sveiki!
spoof or not spoof
It doesn't matter what URL is showed in the mail.
What matters is the URL you actually end up seing of the page in question. You
could be redirected a million times, the e-mail could contain a hidden
redirection.
June 26, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Thanks Knud-Erik, however, I already have a fair number of
Vesuvius postcards
Been working all day on cleaning up my web site.
What with duplication, unlinked files, old ebay auctions etc., managed to remove
over 2 Megs and 80 files.
Also gave me a chance to update
Central America
June 26, 2003 13:39 Ken Srail
Spoof or not spoof
It's a spoof.
Legitimate eBay URL's will begin with
http://cgi3.ebay.com/...
http://pages.ebay.com/...
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
https://scgi.ebay.com/...
https://arribada.ebay.com/...
eBay's
Protecting Your Account Page
June 26, 2003 1:35PM Bill Weiss
Oxidized Stamps
To JOHN; I have removed oxidation from used stamps lots of times over the years.
I just use a simple watermark tray, put the stamp in it, pour over the peroxide
and let it sit for a few minutes, remove it, wash it with cold water, press and
dry. Never had any problems. Have heard that this method may be dangerous by
using pure peroxide, and have heard it suggested you should dilute the peroxide,
so if anyone else wants to clarify this, feel free. I've been told it can also
be removed from mint stamps too by a fume process, with the peroxide in a tray,
a grid-bed above the peroxide and supposedly the fumes from the peroxide will
remove the oxidation. This always seemed too risky to me. Also, sometimes light
oxidation can be removed simply by gently erasing it with a good quality
non-abrasive erasure. Hope this helps.
June 26, 2003 12:40 Dave ("philatarium")
Watermark Scanning
I am reading with great interest the discussion on the eBay chat about scanning
watermarks. I wonder if the people who posted their techniques there (including
Richard W. ("sayasan"), Knud-Erik, "classicbruce", etc.)) would be willing to
repost them here?
First, it would allow them to be permanently kept here. Second, I would like to
pull these together into a "thread" that we could archive separately. Third, I
am a little uncomfortable with copying and pasting eBay-based posts here (or on
a page related to this board), although I did do so for the EUSC meeting.
I would also like to pull together the recent posts about CSA stamps. I'll get
that started over the weekend, hopefully, and then can maybe ask someone to go
back through the old posts to find other relevant CSA material to include with
the recent ones.
Over the weekend, hopefully, I'll also update the archives, and include the
couple of posts pertaining to the EUSC meeting that I did not get included with
the current web version.
One other thing concerning scanning watermarks, and one reason for my limited
time: I'm currently taking 3 (count 'em, 3) Photoshop classes simultaneously, in
an intense little summer session. These classes are geared for photographers, as
opposed to graphic designers, and the scanning issues and image manipulation
topics that will be covered are highly pertinent to our philatelic needs, so I
have great hopes that I'll be able to learn Photoshop well enough to be able to
learn or develop some techniques that would be relevant to us. Keep your fingers
crossed. (I can usually learn software packages pretty quickly, but an earlier
version of Photoshop was definitely my Waterloo! That's why I'm taking these
classes while I can, but it's temporarily taking a lot of time away from other
things right now.)
Anyway, thanks in advance to anybody who reposts.
June 26, 2003 John Cunningham
I have several orange US stamps that need to be 'revived'as they have oxidized.
I have read up on the use of a solution including a few drops of hydrogen
peroxide. Can anyone tell me of their own experiences with this approach? Any
upsides or downsides of which I should be aware? TIA
June 26, 2003 12.26 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Volcano allert
iomoon - look here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2936414682&category=7902
:O)
K.E.
June 26, 2003 12:17 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Spoof or not Spoof
Looks fishy. The text you copied shows an URL within eBay, but the email (if it
was in HTML) may have contained a link which was something completely different.
June 26, 2003 1910 BST Ed.B
Spoof or not Spoof
Received this today. Anyone else had the same.
Ed
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continuing commitment to protect your account and to reduce the instance of
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June 26, 2003 Prometheus
Jim W = Thanks for that link
BOB H = What a great reference site.
I found an Oleo tax stamp in a box once.
Nice to know more about it.
June 26, 2003 9:49 Dave ("philatarium")
Roger: Great that you checked in! We've missed your witty and thoughtful
posts.
Do check in when you can, and we'll be expecting a full report when you get back
home.
June 26, 2003 Roger Heath
Vacation is great
Hello All, I'm just checking in from Machynlleth, Wales. Everything is going
along fine. I'll be looking in again later.
Roger
June 26, 2003 nomad55
Santa Clara show today - in search of interesting expo covers.
June 26, 2003 06:12 Jim Watson
Bob H.,
Your web site got some
favorable mention in the recent issue of the Philatelic Literature Review
(2nd Quarter 2003).
June 26, 2003 Bob Hohertz
INDYPEX
Off to INDYPEX, to get exhibit mounted. Hope to meet a few online friends there.
Have to give a talk Saturday (yawnnnn?) And even may buy a few things.....
June 26, 2003 Jim Lawler
INDYPEX
2003
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
Jim L.
June 26, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Gód dæg eall.
Richard's,
while I was in England this summer, my nephew showed me his card collection,
inherited from my father. It's worth several thousand. In addition to the
cricketers and footballers, one of my favorite topics is that of military
uniforms. Extremely colorful.
June 26, 2003 03:20 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a censored airmail cover from
Norway to
Portuguese East Africa in 1945.
June 26, 2003 sveiki!
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
This is how my
alarm clock of the day looked like. Incredible how many decibels they produce.
{:o)
June 26, 2003 Dave P
Cig Cards
Richard B
Players was (is) one of the big UK cigarette brands, and the cards are very
popular. Cricket & Football cards are two of the most popular themes so you have
a nice set there.
One thing I do notice is that cig card collectors and postcard collectors are
not as obsessive about condition as stampers, better condition does go for a
better price but the differential is much smaller. I have sold a number of
postcards in frankly poor condition, if they had been stamps they would have
gone in the trash.
June 26, 2003 11:32 pm Bob in WA
$5 Columbian block again
I just discovered I own one of those BEP sheets! It's the Compex 1973
sheet--Chicago May 25-7. And I thought Bill was correct about the value tablets
being altered, but we were both wrong. They are exactly the same on the sheet.
He just cut it out and put it on eBay. Those sheets, even though cheap, are
rather pretty art. Seems a shame to cut them up, and an outrage to deceptively
hawk the trimmings.
June 25, 2003 David Benson
Bill Longley, even though Peter Jaffe must be in his 90's or more he is still
very active in philately He is trying to reconstruct the CANCELLED handstamps on
the various colonials. Sounds a daunting task but not really as most have been
photocgraphed and it is just a jigsaw puzzle trying to fit them back where they
were. I think most are in his own collections.
David Benson
June 25, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Richard W - I've seen a lot of the same things in the gum card collecting
field as in the stamp collecting world. Things like Counterfeits, reproductions,
fantasy issues, "doctored" cards have all been arround for a while now. I seem
to recall an add in an old trade paper by a guy who called himself "The card
doctor". He could "fix" or "repair" any faults on cards, and improve their
appearance.
I believe I actually have a nearly complete set of cricket player cig. cards
from 1934 or soemething like that. I believe the name on them is "Player &
Sons". I don't know a thing about cricket or the players on the cards, but they
sure are pretty. I can see why people frame them for display.
June 25, 2003 Bill L.
Chile Cancelled.
David B., Bill S, Mauro M.
I started thread by telling Mauro to post the image here. The "cancelled"
postmark is similar to those used by Perkins Bacon to prepare gift sets to 6
people in 1861. There are about 430 or 450 examples known. The Newfoundland
"Cancelled" stamps are quite rare and have sold for $1000s each. I was curious
to know if the same applied to other countries.
And I have now found the answer to my own question "Did Chile get "Cancelled"
hammers?
Jaffe's book on Perkins Bacon pg 84 says Aug 31 1860, 200 brass "Cancelled
between bars" handstamps were supplied."
June 25, 2003 David Benson
Bill, AFAIK the INUTIL was made locally and just copied the British inscription.
It was the intention of Perkins Bacon that the cancel be used for Specimen
purposes and not for general cancellations. I read an article on them about 25
years ago but no idea which magazine it was in.
David Benson
June 25, 2003 16:30:37 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Chile Classics
Mauro, if you look at the Chile collection on my web site, you'll see
more examples of both the CANCELLED and INUTIL markings, along with a few more
details... Those cancels arrived in Chile from England in 1860.
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
You're comparing the wrong pair.
MS has it for £69.50.
June 25, 2003 nomad55
Richard W....regarding certificates without pictures, a while back the
Confederate Society declared all their certificates issued without photo to be
invalid.
(My CSA certs are all of the newer variety, with pic)
June 25, 2003 15:35 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Generic sheets
IOmoon How can
pedigreestamps sell it for £65.00 with a real bidder when
MS has it
for £34.50?
Sounds like Philatelic Literature where an item on eBay will go for twice
Phil Bansner.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 25, 2003 Dave P
Generic Sheets
The saving grace is, I think, that they were not produced for stamp collectors,
but for football fans, who will keep them with their signed photographs,
programs and nineteen versions of the away strip. I think any future market for
them will be the football memorabilia one. Nice little earner for RM though.
The Boots sheets and the later variations on the theme are catalogued by
Gibbons.
June 25, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Santa Clara ASDA show
Bleah. I just got back from the philatelic window in San Jose. It seems they're
not going to the ASDA show - it's going to be the Santa Clara USPS people
attending. So if you were planning on going there to stock up on stuff you've
been missing, you'll be out of luck - they'll probably only have the newer
stuff. You'll be better off driving to the San Jose office on Saturday, when the
philatelic window is open.
I went there to pick up the new Old Glory booklet, which you won't receive if
you're in the USPS subscription program. Now I have to figure out how totake
them apart and how to mount them. The booklet has two blocks of 10, with the two
having different backings. I'm worried that Scott may differentiate between the
backings at some point in time. Also, the pages aren't perforated (the way the
submarine booklets were), and they're glued, not stapled. So extracting them may
be tough.
Jim
June 25, 2003 01.04 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
Generic sheets
Bill & Jim Io
Generic Sheets For stamps to be catalogued by Gibbons they have to be
freely available. It is pushing this a bit to list Prestige Booklets, but they
are available from the Philatelic Bureau at face value , and, for all I
know, some other major philatelic outlets. On the other hand, generic sheets
will, I have heard, only be getting a footnote as to their existence.
These football sheets will no doubt find a ready market with their teams
supporters as football memorabilia, but they were never available at cost
so will probably never gain more than a footnote in the catalogue, if that.
The other commercially produced stamps for Companies were the Readers Digest
m/v strips and the Boots 1st miniature sheet. Both of these were freely
available from the Philatelic Bureau at face value and the m/v strips are
catalogued. I’m not sure about the Boots 1st miniature sheet.
But with Royal Mail making a hefty loss each year I expect we will see more
of these commercially inspired sheets with increasing regularity. It will be up
to collectors whether to jump on the band wagon or to ignore them. Colin
June 25, 2003 Richard Warren
bubblegum & certificates
Richard B - Thanks for the (A)CW bubblegum card info. $787 for one
bubblegum card with cheesey civil war artwork? My God. And I thought stamp
collectors were barking mad .. One thing I have noticed here in the UK is that
framed sets of cigarette and trade cards for the popular market have now been
replaced by framed sets of reproductions (forgeries, I guess) of
cig/trade cards. But rarely is this pointed out either on the reverse of the
frame or by the seller. Only the ridiculously fresh appearance (and a certain
weakness/blurriness in the printing) gives the game away. Quite a good profit
for a set of photocopies/scans! Has this sort of thing invaded the US bubblegum
card market? Have been hunting for the bubblegum repro Confederate notes I
thought I had, but no luck so far. Maybe I trashed them years ago ... Apologies
likewise to all for continued no-stamp posting.
As no one responded, I'll repeat the (doubtless naive) question I posted a
while ago - if a certificate has no image of the item, how does anyone know that
it hasn't been switched to a "wrong" item of the same description? Is the answer
to this blindingly obvious? Have I missed something?
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
Bill C
Considering face value of stamps on sheets is £3.70, and I don't see Royal Mail
copyright on sheets, I don't think so.
June 25, 2003 12:00 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Royal Mail Site
IOmoon I knew you would get a chuckle from those. Are you going to add
them to your Royal Mail site?
Forgery
Identification Site
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
I found
the culprit
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
According to about 30 web sites, the Royal Mail withdrew Manchester United
stamps because users did not know which side to spit on!
I think its some sort of in-joke!!
June 25, 2003 10:19 Jim Watson
Knud-Erik,
That's an interesting cover. Hope someone can translate it for us. I think
you're on the right track. Note also the Julian-Gregorian dates.
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
????????????????????
Occasions sheet was produced by Royal Mail where you could use your own images.
Border was not made to order though.
I have no idea what that is or who produced it.
June 25, 2003 Prometheus
K.E. = Great Letter
Thanks for sharing.
June 25, 2003 06:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
IOmoon
????
Forgery
Identification Site
June 25, 2003 06.23 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Jimbo & all - Hi Jim. nice cover but I'm sorry I cant help you on the
route. :O)
Your "Today's dated postal
history item" gives me the opportunity to show a folded letter from a collection
I have of covers with Prague cancellations.
This folded letter
was sent from Prague (at that time Austria - now Czech Republic) May 26 - 1854
to Reims in France. The "19" is the rate 19 kreuzer. On the front it has a
French border cancel "D'Autrice" from Valnes May 28 and on
back a transit
cancel from Paris May 28 and a reciever from Reims May 29.
But the most interesting is
the contents,
which are (I belive) a request for some bottles of Champagne and to avoid
misunderstandment the
original label
was enclosed!!
The Champagne was from the
winemaker L. Roederer, which still are making wine. I found on
this page
this interesting story: " In the 1850’s only the British had developed a taste
for dry champagnes and many manufacturers used to add sugar dissolved in brandy
to their wines. The amount of sugar depended on the market. The Imperial Russian
court liked sweet Champagne, and L. Roederer was favoured by Tsar Alexander II,
who used to send his sommelier to L Roederer every year to select the best for
the Tsar. To appropriately impress the Tsar Roederer bottled his best in a
crystal bottle. It became the standard Champagne of the Russian aristocracy up
to 1917."
I belive the letter is written in
German and is any able to translate it?
Now I'm getting thirsty and I
think I will get me a .......cup of coffee! :O)
K.E.
June 25, 2003 0609 Prometheus
Question = NOIP
Any one ever heard of "DATZ Philatelic Index "
IF YOU do can you tell me how many years he produced these.
Thanks
June 25, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Chile
David B: Thanks!
June 25, 2003 Marius
D2 and Io I think I'll go and commit silverside somewhere. Can't take a
sporting trick this week. Never mind :-)
Besides I didn't think Qld had a hope of winning so I resigned myself to the
loss early.
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Nice job with the centering Jim :-Þ
June 25, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
I thought the entirety of Australia was in mourning.
Rugby and tennis haven't been doing too well lately!!
June 25, 2003 Jim Lawler
June 25, 2003 Jim Lawler
INDYPEX
2003
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
June 25, 2003 David Benson
Marius, I hear that Queensland is in mourning, has tomorrow been declared a
public holiday for the wake,
p.s. it's not finished yet but I think I know the outcome,
David Benson
June 25, 2003 04:02 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a cover with a hotel corner card from
Luxembourg to
France in 1887.
June 25, 2003 David Benson
Mauro, I found this INUTIL on the web, difficult on cover,
INUTIL
David Benson
June 25, 2003 David Benson
Mauro, they are a normal cancel, they were shipped by Perkins Bacon with the
1st. issue. There is a local variant inscribed INUTIL which is scarcer.
David Benson
June 25, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Chile
Bill S: Have you ever seen any 5cts brown/reddish columbus with a postmark that
reads in english "CANCELLED"? have just got a couple in a collection i got and
was wondering what they are.
If anyone is interested a full set of images (3.5 mb zip) is
HERE
(this particular stamp is on img #53)
Regards
Mauro
June 25, 2003 Roo
knuden
No hidden cards here , but then I have also used Signoscope and fluid for many
years . When the subject of identifying watermarks using scans came up on Ebay
board I jumped in with the info , the rules on that board preclude anything that
could be considered promotional , even if it IS providing the latest information
on THE SUBJECT open for discussion . I cut and paste to this board without
enough thought to the impression that could be drawn (out of context), apologies
if it came across as blatant promotion , though I do find using our computers to
identify stamps a fascinating prospect and am engrossed . :>)
Roo
June 25, 2003 00.08 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
Roo - Why don't you play with open cards and tell us it's you, who are
selling the software at Ebay?? :O)
K.E.
June 25, 2003 Marius
Brisbane cancel
Coverwiz Although the cancel is out of my collecting period I would agree
with David that DELIVERY COUNTER is correct.
June 24, 2003 David Benson
coverwiz, Marius (stampmad) is into Brisbane GPO markings. I would presume
Delivery Counter but I am only guessing, doubt of any significant value.
David Benson
June 24, 2003 22:31:58 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Chile Classics
Mauro, I collect Chile, and have representative samples of many of the
Colon heads. I am far from an advanced collection, however...
June 24, 2003 Roo <sueco@iinet.net.au>
http://www.iinet.net.au/~sueco/
Watermarks
NOIP
Over from the other board , thought i'd post it here too in case anyone is
interested.
Have you seen the software where you can have stencils saved that you select and
can put over the scan of the watermark in actual size??.You can have a whole
library of watermarks saved digitally , scan the stamp (suggested is 200DPI 100%
greyscale) , select the watermark and slide it all over the back of the stamp to
match exactly.Obviously sideways , inverted , reversed and even variations can
all be included .New stuff Eh , it's up on Ebay .
Roo
June 24, 2003 COVERWIZ
SORRY
One more time
Brisbane DELIVERY ?
June 24, 2003 COVERWIZ
Whoops
HERE - I hope! :Brisbane
DELIVERY ? cancel
June 24, 2003 20:21 COVERWIZ
Brisbane cancel
D2 or other Aussie experts Can anyone tell me what the full cancel would
read:
Brisbane DELIVERY ? cancel
Thanks in advance
June 24, 2003 7:50PM Bill Weiss
$5.00 Columbian Block
This block was cut from a 1970s B(ureau) of E(ngraving) and P(rinting) card.
However, as I recall, the area that had the numerals of value were blank, and
this has some sort of "private" overprints in block obliterating that area!
Anyway, it's crap, and the bidder who paid $15+ got raped, as the card is cheap
and can be bought for under $5.00.
June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Auction Shams
Oh, by the way, you can get the final value fees back - report the scammer as a
non-paying bidder and follow through after first notice. Then block them from
bidding and relist.
June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Auction shams
Michael
Go to an eBay page and up to Site Map. There are links on the left side for
things like Buyer's Guide - choose that and search on negative feedback - you
can probably get those removed as having nothing to do with the auction and
retaliatory. And there is a place to report shill bidding on Safe Harbor - or go
up to Help at the top of an eBay page and select the link to Contact Us. Give
them your information. They may or may not do something.
June 24, 2003 7:31 Michael Mathews <diggerprof@msn.com>
Auction Shams
A bidder (leeann4@aol.com) won one of my auctions. The next day I was sent an
e-mail stating that they did not like my S and H charge; I wrote back that it
was clearly stated and an auction win was a contract and if they didn't follow
through, I would report them to ebay. I received an e-mail stating that they did
not like being threatened. After no payment, I posted negative feedback, and of
course so did they. After a week a check arrived and I sent the stamps.
About a week later, I had bids on nine of my auctions by piddler0_5, a brand new
bidder to ebay......they bid more than I thought the stamps were worth, so I
contacted the bidder and asked for name and address for mailing, to which I was
asked to wait until the last auction they were bidding on was over, and I
consented. After all nine auctions were over, I sent an invoice (and heard
nothing).
Three days after the last auction was over, piddler left NINE negative feedbacks
stating they had not received their stamps, to which I replyed that they had not
paid.
I found out that piddler0_5 was another e-mail address for leeann4, AND piddler
was also bidding (shill bidding) on his or her own auctions to drive up the
price. They (leeann4 and piddler0_5) also have a website at georgesstamps.com. I
have their names if anyone is interested.
I have reported this to ebay and requested a rebate on my auction charges. I
have heard NOTHING from them. Any suggestions what I should do?
diggerprof@msn.com
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Chuck
I gave up on the zero second snipes, eBay isn't as stable as it used to be. I
think at the last count I had twelve, but that was several years ago.
George
email on the way.
June 24, 2003 George K
What's BEP?
June 24, 2003 Chuck Harm
Jim,
3 seconds - was that a manual snipe? If so quite impressive.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Oh boy, a
for real snipe
June 24, 2003 6:29 pm Bob in WA
$5 Columbian block
George -- I'm pretty sure that's from a BEP card.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Boy, seems
I lost my touch.
One down!
Sorry, its not a stamp, neither is the next one, but it is stamp-related.
June 24, 2003 Richard Frajola
George K I don't know what it is, but I know what it ISN"T. It isn't
anything produced any time near when the Columbians were made. I would look to
some souvenir sheet for a stamp club, a cinderella, or BEP card or something
along those lines. I am not up on all that stuff produced in the 20th Century.
June 24, 2003 George K
2936447294
Bill W, Richard F, anybody: Can anyone tell me what this is? It looks like a
block of 4 of $5 Columbian essays as the face value is missing, but it wasn't in
my Scott's Specialized. There doesn't seem to be much interest in it, and the
seller (whom I have noted occasionally (and unfavorably) in my strolls down the
venue) has it on private auction. Am I missing something?
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark <jlwstark6@aol.com>
george
email me, above.
May take a while to answer, due to snipes.
June 24, 2003 4:55 Jim (jaywild) <jfdire@earthlink.net>
Hi Bob in WA... I have dealt with hillsstamps without a problem.
From my perspective I'd doubt they were involved in any shill business. Sounds
like the bidders were flakes is all.
That Al Yankovic "I bought it on eBay" is hilarious. I especially like this
'discovery'-- "...a kleenex used by Dr. Dre."
June 24, 2003 David Benson
Chris, partly my fault as I try to list items from memory without using a
catalogue and then double check the catalogue and correct mistakes. Usually only
the dates are out slightly but takes a bit of the boring work out listing.
Missed the spelling mistake.
Back in about 5 hours,
David Benson
June 24, 2003 David Benson
Bob, presume the seller put in for a refund of fees and will relist, see what
happens the 2nd. time around,
David Benson
June 24, 2003 16:45 stamphick <stamphick@dospalos.org>
changing email addy
Dave.. I recently installed broadband & changed my email address on eBay
& PayPal, both without a hitch. Maybe the only change I have made on either site
that wasn't a reall hassle.
David
June 24, 2003 George K
bid-uperer.......
Jim: I'm afraid you've got me on this one. Other than being a collector of
off-beat BOB, I don't see anything suspicious in his buying habits. Can you
enlighten me on what you've spotted?
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
bob in WA
I have bought several items from hillstamps, and, though a little slow and
apparently muddleheaded, is honest.
If he feels the high bidders have been screwing with him, he has the
opportunity, I believe, to offer it as a second chance auction.
June 24, 2003 Ed.B
ebay new look
It looks like the UK site is one step ahead of the .com site. All our listing
pages have changed to the new format.
Ed
June 24, 2003 Bill Longley
Ebay song by Weird Al Yankovic
Here is a sample of the Weird Al song about ebay. Quite funny!!. A certain
regular sent me a link to it. I didn't dare post it on ebay chat board.
June 24, 2003 4:25 pm Bob in WA
Big shill revisited
If you recall
THIS
lot, the Egypt to Lebanon postage due cover that was bid to almost $800 at the
end by two zero-feedback bidders from Belgium, one of whom registered on eBay
the day of auction end, there is a bit more now.
I sent this note to the high bidder a week ago:
Greetings inaagat--
I have a question as an interested bystander in the dramatic bid history of lot
2933547566, the Egypt to Lebanon cover with the postage dues. I collect bridges
and found it on a search on "bridge" for the Dog Bridge due stamp, but it
quickly ran up to $102, out of my league. Needless to say I was totally
surprised at the ending.
I am very curious what gives this cover such exceptional value, and I'd greatly
appreciate your comments, just for my own education.
Thank you for your time to read this. Any enlightenment you might provide would
be much appreciated.
Kindest regards, Bob Lodge
I received no response, so today I sent this modification to the “underbidder”:
Hello Olguita--
I have a question as an interested bystander in the dramatic bid history of lot
2933547566, the Egypt to Lebanon cover with the postage dues. I collect bridges
and found it on a search on "bridge" for the Dog Bridge due stamp, but it
quickly ran up to $102, out of my league. Needless to say I was totally
surprised at the ending. You must have been very surprised and disappointed to
lose with such a high bid.
I am very curious what gives this cover such exceptional value, and I'd greatly
appreciate your comments, just for my own education. I sent this same message to
the winner a week ago, but he never answered me. I hope that you are more kind.
Thank you for your time to read this. Any enlightenment you might provide would
be much appreciated.
Kindest regards, Bob Lodge
I was fully aware, of course, that it was undoubtedly the same person reading
it as the previous message. Quite promptly I received this reply:
Hello rcl,
Be sure you are right and you evaluate correctly this item! Even more than I do,
as I intended to offer 82.50$ on this item, from an EGYPT collector point of
view.
Due to coding problems for my bid- using of commas or points before the cents-
on the Ebay sites in USA and EUROPE, I got nervous and finally registered a
782.50$ bid. I intended to put a demand for annulation for this bid, which was
finally and luckily superseded .I suppose the vendor must be very happy!
Regards from Belgium,
OLGUITA.
This response is patently false on a number of points. The minimum bid had sat
at $102 all week, long before Olguita even registered on eBay, so he never could
have contemplated an $82.50 bid. Although he was underbidder, he was the LAST
bidder, therefore he would have received a “you have been outbid!” as soon as he
made his bid. So what’s this about intending to annul his bid, which he states
was “finally superseded”? And finally, he said not one word about what was
supposed to make it so valuable!
Note that recently the “high bidder” has received a neg from the seller, for
non-communication. The seller, Hillsstamps, indicated displeasure with the high
bidder. Do you think this is just an act, to cover a shill, or are the two high
bidders acting on their own to thwart a sale, unbidden by the seller. Does
anybody know this seller? I wonder what response the LEGITIMATE underbidder,
Yasser, would get if he approached the seller in an attempt to buy the cover.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Oh boy, got some snipes lined up for tonight.
First time in a long while.
I wonder if I've forgotten how to do it? :-Þ
In the meanwhile, seeing as desks seem to be in fashion,
my (when
its not raining) outdoor desk.
June 24, 2003 David Benson
Chris, thanks, spelling corrected,
David Benson
June 24, 2003 Now Chris
Typo?
D2 I think you have a minor typo in the title of your
Egypt 1923 auction. I think the King's name is "Fuad".
Chris - Fuad was a tough SOB, but his son Farouk was a weeny head
guess which one was overthrown.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
George
The bid-uperer has an interesting bidding history, to say the least.
June 24, 2003 3:25PM Bill Weiss
EBAY/APS
Just had some time to read some postings and have seen what's been written about
the Linn's story about APS/Ebay. It will be interesting to see what comes of
this, if anything. For my part, I just filed a complaint with APS against the
guy who blocked my bidding and would not give a reason despite 3 separate emails
asking him why. I will now be curious to see if and how APS handles this as the
guy is a longtime APS member, thus must subscribe and abide by the APS Code of
Ethics. Obviously, to abide by a code of ethic that requires honesty and fair
play is not anything that ebay involves itself with, their primary objective
being to merely collect fees for acting as a venue for buyers/sellers, but if
APS has the guts to start ruling against members who do not conduct themselves
in a fair and proper way on ebay, then we might get somewhere.
June 24, 2003 George K
inverted jenny
And for my last comments for now on this issue, I would like to say that this is
exactly the same technique that all the crooks on eBay use, and probably the
same one used since fraud was invented, oh, say, about the time that one
proto-humanoid australopithecus convinced another one that the brown banana was
actually a rare food with medicinal qualities, and charged 5 yellow bananas for
it.
pcheltenham/schuylerac/32gyt78, dm, riny, addie - they all hold out the
possibility that just maybe you could perhaps almost be getting a bargain,
because the sellers aren't sure (hogwash). Call it greed, or the thrill of
finding treasure, or hoping against hope, but the buyers are exhibiting what
appears to be a fundamental attribute of the human condition. I blame this on
the CROOKS, not on the buyers. They are taking advantage of this situation the
same way that snake oil salesmen hold out their worthless product as the way to
save a dying family member, or gypsies will take all your money to get you in
touch with the family member AFTER the snake oil fails. The huckster is the one
at fault because THEY lack a sense of honor or conscience.
That's my moralizing for today.
June 24, 2003 Brian R
C3a?
O.K., you guys are starting to obsess over that thing, whatever it may be. IMHO,
anyone stupid enough to bid above a couple of bucks for that as a novelty, has
crossed the line into deserving to lose their money. How about focusing this
boards collective ability, to annoy a seller, on those who are attemping to
swindle people who haven't had a lobotomy?
June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>
inverted jenny
George K.:Sorry, didn't see that. (Or just didn't sink in, as I read it
earlier). Right, must just be a total flake. I was just looking at some of the
stuff he buys and sells. I guess I need to cover my trash container to ensure
some of my trash doesn't show up for sale.
June 24, 2003 George K
inverted jenny
Victor: Please read my post just below yours. It is one thing to say that this
seller may not have a clue, but I gave him a BIG clue;"...if genuine would be
worth approximately $100,000". That was TWO DAYS AGO and he let the auction
proceed to its $82 conclusion anyway. It seems quite evident that this seller,
if clueless, must also be brainless. If not clueless, then ethicsless at best.
June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>
inverted jenny
I'm not sure on the seller of that stamp. If you look at his/her past purchases,
it leaves more questions than answers. In one lot, he (?) suggests he only
collects US stamps, but in the jenny lot, he sounds as if he is foreign to stamp
collecting altogether. I suspect the only one to blame for the sale is the
buyer. Looking at all of the junk he buys and sells, that particular seller may
actually not have a clue. It wouldn't surprise me if the items for sale come out
of a dumpster somewhere.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Its simple, potential buyers are either the dumbest suckers ever born or are
shilling.
June 24, 2003 George K
Inverted Jenny
Bill C, Bob, Spain:
The questions I asked him yesterday were:
"This stamp if genuine would be worth approximately $100,000. Now why in the
world would you take a chance of selling it like this - why not get it
expertized, sell it at a real auction, and spend the next year in Tahiti?
Or do you have some reason to suspect it might not be real? Like, since yours
is red and GREEN, and the real one is red and BLUE?
Funny how your digital camera broke down just in time for this one, isn't
it?"
Strange. If I knew very little about an object, and someone told me it might
be worth 100K, I would RUN down to the local expert and find out for sure, not
offer it with a starting price of a buck.
June 24, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Chile Classics
Any one around is interested/collects Chile classic stamps/postal history?
Regards
Mauro
June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Bob - I think if I asked a question it would be "If this is a sample picture,
does this mean you have more than one of these, are you making them?"
June 24, 2003 11:49 Bob in WA
inverted jenny
I sent the seller this message yesterday. Haven't heard back from him yet.
I don't understand what you mean by "picture is a sample picture". Where did
you get the sample image? Is the stamp you are offering the same centering with
even margins all around? Does it have gum on the back? Has it been hinged? Are
there any faults such as small thins or creases? Is it on stamp paper, as
opposed to a heavier card stock? Is it the same size as an issued stamp, rather
than oversize as many of these reproductions are? Does it appear to be an
engraved printing, as opposed to some photo process? (Can you see tiny dots or
halftones with a magnifying glass?) Sorry to hit you with such a barrage of
questions, but you left them out of the description.
June 24, 2003 11:22 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
"Inverted Jenny"
Colin It takes two, as the song goes.
June 24, 2003 11.15 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
"Inverted Jenny"
That
“Inverted Jenny”
Now nearly $75! And what a bid history!
Do they think it is real I wonder?
Colin
June 24, 2003 11:03 Jim Watson
Guillame,
Thanks so much for the complete translation! I've updated the page again along
with adding a link to Nørby's site and cleaning up my discussion of the date
differences. I also added some notes on the geometric killers based on your
information.
BTW, it's raining cats, dogs, assorted wildfowl, and occasional alligator here.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
Looks like an out of focus bulldog with a piece of paper stuck to its nose,
hiding behind a ventilation duct!!
June 24, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
NOIP
Have finally decided to join the 21st century and connect to bradband - should
be about 7th of next month. In theory (and for the tax man) it is for my
business, but it will certainly improve the Ebay experience. As the result of
this, and getting a new business domain etc I shall be changing my email addy
for both Ebay and Paypal. Can those who have had experience of this tell me if I
am likely to run into any problems with either of them?
June 24, 2003 9:40AM Bill Weiss <wrw43@rcn.com>
I'M BACK!
After a few days off we now have a new server for our computer and my access
speed has increased 100-fold. It used to take me 3 minutes to confirm an ebay
bid and it's now 3 seconds! Anyway, I haven't read anything on our boards for a
few days and won't until later this evening, but I just wanted to check in.
June 24, 2003 08:54 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p) (350)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Scan of the day
IOmoon
Why Bother?
June 24, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
NIP ( Nothing in particular)
Morning all, from an already hot, sunny Baltimore.
Jim - the booklet arrived safely today. Many thanks !!
Mark.
June 24, 2003 8:12 Jim Gaul (hungaryjim)
<terrynjim@enter.net>
APS/eBay
Hi All: Just finished catching up with the board and want to thank nomad55
for sharing the Linns article referred to in last nights post. I will try and
find out more information when I attend the general meeting of APS at StampShow
in August! I'll also be receiving a certificate for being a 25 year member and
I'm proud of it! Jimbo2
June 24, 2003 Guillaume
IO: Thank you for the nice compliment. I am indeed more than six hours
ahead of you, but I am barely conscious (slept two hours last night) and spent
fifteen minutes editing my post. So, like in sports, do not despair. You can
always beat a pro when he has an off-day!
June 24, 2003 Guillaume
Jimbo Now that I have some spare time though, not enough :-), I can add
that the geometric cancels served a very particular purpose. Even if the number
in the middle of the cancel was unreadable, you would still know the town post
sub-office by looking at the distinct shape within the oval. These shapes can be
a big square touching the outer circle (sub-office nr 1), a smaller rounded
square (2), a triangle touching the circle (3), a cross (4), a star of David
(5), a diamond with curved lines (6), etc... up to number 9 and the additional
numbers 13 and 14. Then you have the same principle but with Roman style
numbers: XI, XV, XVI, XVII, XXXI (two types).
June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
A little more on the CW gum cards
Richard - I've noticed here on ebay, lot's of these cars listed, but none
of the notes. I also notice that there are quite a few sellers in the UK selling
them. The UK sellers are advertising them as A&BC gum, and the US sellers
advertise them as Topps. Same set, but I suspect A&BC Gum is the British
counterpart of Topps. Sort of like O-Pee-Chee is the Canadian counterpart. So
you were right, it's just that my catalog only lists U.S. cards.
HERE is an example of how values have seem to have gotten out of hand on
them. It's also a good example why sellers like to sell professionally "graded"
cards. At those prices, just think how much an 88 card set would cost.
All - Sorry for the continued non-stamp post.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
My excuses - Kiompie is a pro & he's been awake at least six hours longer
than me!!! :-Þ
June 24, 2003 Guillaume van Turnhout (kiompie)
Jimbo: I have just posted a summary of your Russian card on the eBay
board. We do not know what the case is about, the French word "votre honorée" in
the first line after "
Monsieur" is just a very polite way of saying "your letter". So, to add to Io's
translation:
Sir, in answer to your letter of June 25th (note: Julian Calendar) concerning
the Napiersky case, I have the honor to inform you that Mr Nedzwedzky, lawyer,
who is conducting this case,is not in Saint Petersburg for the moment. He will
be back within one week and will then answer your letter. Please, Sir, accept
the assurance of my distinguished consideration. D. Blagovetchensky" (last
sentence is a literal translation, just fill in the standard formal English
equivalent).
June 24, 2003 Jim Watson
Gads! Turn off the bold, jimbo.</b>
June 24, 2003 07:35 Jim Watson
Io,
Yeah, I thought his translation seemed a little closer so I've updated the page
again reflecting a somewhat majority vote on the content. (Kiompie and I
comprised a majority vote! :-) )
June 24, 2003 Chuck Harm
Jim,
I probably should have mentioned that I had a bootleg copy from the Hong Kong
software malls. Probably cost me about $6US and I overpaid because I am a
Westerner.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
Kiompie's is better.
June 24, 2003 Brian R
selling at multiples of catalog
Bob H.I suppose I shouldn't point this out (might give some of the
sellers here some ideas, thus increasing my buying costs), but that seller has
over 3000 feedback! I looked at some of his other auctions, and was just as
astonished (no, shocked!!) at what kind of prices he's asking. I can't believe
that he's found that many suckers willing to pay multiples of catalog for
common items. At those rates, I figure he will only need to sell one out of
every fifty items, to cover the listing fees. If it wasn't for the common items
involved, I'd speculate this was an attempt by some auction house, to buy cheap
publicity (i.e. if the item actually sold---all the better, a.k.a the Mystic
Stamp Co. method)
Maybe, instead of deriding him, we sould present him a plaque, or something,
for good marketing.
June 24, 2003 07:04 Jim Watson
Io,
Thanks for the quickie translation. I've paraphrased the essence and updated the
page. I think the habit of 'stiffing' bills from tradesmen and professional has
long standing with some of the aristocracy. Locally, a prominent developer who
does things like chairing the Jeb Bush campaign finance committee and being
co-chair of the George Bush inagural party regularly delays payments to local
service providers by 90 days or more. There's little they can do as he is one of
the biggest games in town.
June 24, 2003 Victor Horadam <horadam1@airmail.net>
General
Good
Morning
All, from sunny, hot Dallas.
Thanks to all who mmade suggestions for dealers/shops in NYC. It was
productive at Champion Stamps and Stampazine.
June 24, 2003 0652 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>
My 23 june
A nice clear dark
FLAG on this Railroad Advert Postcard June 23rd 1909 Bloomington, Ill.
Here is Other side
WhirlPoolRapids
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Chuck
Did a quick google search for "twinbridge". Seems they want about $300 for it.
Think I'll stick with the old fashioned way for the moment.
June 24, 2003 06:37 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
The annoying small stamps of Colombia
Chris What about the
Giant Cover Sized stamps
of Colombia?
Forgery
Identification Site
June 24, 2003 Now Chris
My toes hurt
Last night I kicked an 8lb hand weight with my bare foot.
The toes involved are still quite unhappy.
Doesn't feel like anything broke (lotsa experience with broken toes and fingers)
but good and bruised.
Next incarnation I am going to be Iron Man.
Chris - I am Iiiiiiiiiiiurrrrrrrrrrrn Maaaaaan (Black Sabbath)
June 24, 2003 Now Chris
abplanalp.com
The annoying small stamps of Colombia
I find myself confronted with a pile of those annoying small stamps of Colombia.
(For those unfamiliar with them, they are about 1cm high by 2cms wide.)
These are my least favorite Colombian stamps to catalog and I am contemplating
just putting them in my nickel sales envelope. Would that be wrong?
Chris
June 24, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Hmmmmm
Brian,
Case in point -
2936892715. This "match and medicine" stamp catalogs $10 unless it doubled
in catalog value in the last year. Our marketer starts it at $20.
June 24, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
I'm missing some key words, but the gist is this:
"Messieur, in respect of your fees of June 25th concerning the affairs of
Napierlay, I have the honor to let you know that she (has appointed an) advocate
(Attorney-at-law) who is looking after this affair. It is not to (at
St.Petersburg ?) for the moment.It will be of ******* and we will respond to
your letter. ***** messieur, the assurance of your distinguished consideration."
D. Blagovetshensky
In english, "tough luck bud, you'll have to wait for your money."
June 24, 2003 Richard Warren
expensive bubblegum
Richard B - Blimey!!! I'd better see if I really do still have any tucked
away. "TCG" sounds right enough to me - I'm sure we're talking about the same
thing.
June 24, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)
Goodmorning! The sun is out in Massachusetts!!!
I want to retract my comment on the APS/ebay. I really don't know enough about
anything to be commenting. I made the judgement on seeing so many of you good
people narued or silenced by the big E. I have a general mistrust of their
motives .
June 24, 2003 04:33 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Indypex
INDYPEX
2003
is coming.
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
June 24, 2003 04:16 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a postal card from
Russia to
France in 1898. It seems to have some confusion over the date - Gregorian and
Julian.
BTW, Here is a cover from the
target=blank>last Trans-Atlantic flight of the DO-X from Newfoundland to
Germany as noted yesterday.
June 24, 2003 00.02 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
K.E.
June 24, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen Sandafayre selling an
obvious forgery as genuine, at least in Spanish stamps.
June 23, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Civil War gum cards
Richard S. - I saw a couple posts regarding these and thought I'd check
in my Non-Sports Card catalog to see if there's anything on them. I don't see
anything listed for an ABC gum company. I'm wondering if what you thought was
ABC was actually T.C.G? This was what the Topps Chewing Gum Co. use to
put on the backs of their cards, where the copyright info was.
I did find a set called Civil War News, from 1962. The set contained
88 cards and there were 17 different Confederate notes you could get. Are they
collectible? In short, yes. The cards are valued between $4-5 a piece, depending
on condition, and between $420-525 for the set. The currency is valued at $5-6
each and $110-135 for the set of 17. But, here's the real kicker. The
wrappers by themselves are valued at $200-250 each, depending on if
it was a 1 cent or 5 cent wrapper. And the empty display box is valued at $400.
Now mind you, my catalog is a bit outdated, from 1992, so no telling what 11
years has done t othe value. Sorry though, the gum would still be worthless
today.
June 23, 2003 Brian R
aps/ebay
Richard I'll wait to see just what, if anything, results before I'll
start damning either party. If the APS only performs the duty of informing ebay,
who the rotten sellers are (presumablely for free publicity?), to give ebay a
reason to justify their banishment,(so the pinheads can keep claiming "just a
venue") it'll be an great leap forward. There's a couple still operating that
are so blatent (we all know who they are here), that they deserve an instant
NARU. As for liability insurance, do you really think those sellers want
their activities displayed inside a court of law? I'd think they'd just slink
away.
June 23, 2003 Brian R
The new eku for a US #26
Bob HThank you! I almost added a question to my post, about just what in
the world, makes the seller think that cover, is worth anything near $35. I
didn't 'cause I was afraid of sounding stupid( i.e. maybe he just mistyped 1857
and there is some other reason). Turns out, with that auction, that there is
a degree of stupidity involved. LOL
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
Brian Everything was tentative when I last heard - and said that I didn't
want to sign their confidentiality agreement or participate. I think that the
general idea was that ebay would forward complains received from their "neighbourhood
watchers" along to APS. Then, APS was supposed to determine if the sellers were
in fact "bad apples" and, if so, would somehow try to get them to mend their
evil ways. It is presumed that after some point, after APS wrist slapping proved
ineffectual, that ebay might take some action against seller.
As far as I am concerned, the idea sounds like a way for ebay to pass along
blame and ineffective "management" of the problem onto APS shoulders. Should
make great press.
PS - I never heard anything about money actually being paid out by ebay to
anybody. The watchers were expected to do it for nothing. Maybe ebay will pay
the APS liability insurance premium that they will need ...
June 23, 2003 19:43:24 Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Here's another...
One that brings up questions...
These show three different inking stages (I probably should rescan at a
higher resolution) on the common 1 piaster of 1908. The rightmost example is
typical, with a completely solid background behind the numerals. The leftmost
one has distinct horizontal stripes behind the numerals. The middle one is an
intermediate. Was it common to use a striped pattern, then overink to get a
solid background? Or was the background recut after a while when overinking
showed up as a problem? It might make a good 1 page exhibit, no way could I
stretch it to a whole frame. :-)
June 23, 2003 19:42 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Stamp Category Changes on eBay
Did anyone see the proposed new stamp catagories here:
http://pages.ebay.com/catpreview/stamps.html
I posted this on the threaded board but put it here for all stamp chat people
to see.
I was searching eBay Germany and say many interesting and useful
categories. They also have many more layers of categories. Why can't the US
stamp categories be as useful as eBay Germany?
Here are a few examples
http://listings.ebay.de/aw/plistings/list/category7826/index.html?from=R4
Notice the subcategories
http://listings.ebay.de/pool2/plistings/list/all/category40358/index.html?from=R4
and more sub categories.
http://listings.ebay.de/pool2/plistings/list/all/category35263/index.html?from=R4
Why can't the US categories match the other eBay sites and have such deep
usefulness?
I see that eBay Germany is finally taking off.
The richness and depth of categories helps.
What is more important in an international community is that searches find
all the items. This is not possible if the categories are very different between
the sites. eBay must merge the categories so searches produce worldwide results
from worldwide sellers.
eBay US should talk to the people who organized the eBay Germany stamp
categories and apply that inspiration to the US site.
June 23, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Hmmmmm
briguy,
I hope that seller never has anything I want. He has no clue about condition
and starts over catalog for anything not visibly damaged. Posts a lot of lots
and never seems to have many bids - wonder why not? (sour grapes post)
June 23, 2003 19:36:58 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Good deals
David, if the overprints are forged, they're easily the best I've ever
seen. The 5 piaster is cataloged by Burak, but only in blue. This color is
scarcer than either blue or gray, but only because I believe it was an
intermediate printed when they switched colors. I have one of the regular stamps
in the color too...
On the 25 piaster, I don't know if the perf varieties on these issues were
dependent on a specific print run or whether they just had multiple perforating
machines, and one or two were setup differently than the others. If dependent
ona print run, then these would be very, very rare, because you'd have to have
ended up with surplus from more than just the last printing. If scattered
throughout the printings, then it shouldn't be all that unusual, it's just that
people don't typically check perfs... I've asked some questions, trying to get a
handle on how the perf varieties were created, which might give me better info
on how rare this puppy really is. Again, it's overprint is awfully good if
forged; surprising as well, since the stamp has such low catalog.
June 23, 2003 Brian R
aps/ebay
Richard Can you elaborate? Could it result in someone with a lick of
philatelic knowledge being given some power to enforce some standards in
the catagories?
Awwww, what am I thinking!? Even the most blatent fraud, means more final
value fees, and ebay sold its soul a long time ago.
June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
About the only power that I can see APS having regarding eBay auctions would be
to reprimand any members who were caught doing untoward business.
It would seem, however, that the majority of the flagrant offenders are not APS
members.
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
Ebay + APS
I think several of the board participants here were approached by eBay in
regards to their "Neighbourhood Watch" initiative. I declined to participate and
believe a couple others did as well. My reason to decline was primarily because
I saw it as an ebay marketing scheme that transfers responsibility and
enforcement for stamp fraud on ebay to APS without any real power to do
anything.
I do hope APS can assist but think it is a no win situation for the APS.
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
Laurel Thank you for clarification. I have examples of whirling logs on
Navajo weavings including the rug
here. I just never
heard of them associated with Hopi.
Someplace around here I have an old booklet (ca. 1900) on symbols found on
ancient coins and artifacts. The swastika and its variant sun symbols, do show
up frequently well into BC period.
June 23, 2003 Jim Lawler
INDYPEX
2003
is coming.
:8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
June 23, 2003 19:04 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Tunis
D2 Gee. They even reach
Tunis
Forgery
Identification Site
June 23, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)
Jim Gaul The article says " APS & Ebay are discussing a partnership....designed
to boost publicity for and increase membership in the APS " and to hobble any
integrity the APS might have for ebay
June 23, 2003 nomad55
A&S....quoted directly from Linns June 30th issue, page 3.
The American Philatelic Society and the internet auction house ebay are holding
preliminary discussions that could result in a partnership designed to boost
publicity for and increase membership in the APS, Linns learned in mid-June from
a retail dealer. Janet Klug, chairman of the APS board and president-elect of
the APS, confirmed for Linns that the APS board of directors learned of the
negotiations in early May. Klug did not provide Linns with any specifics
regarding how a potential agreement between the two organizations might benefit
ebay. “This proposal is very interesting and exciting but I can’t discuss
specifics until the legal implications and financial arrangements have been
settled”, Klug said.
-------------------------------------------------
So, are we to expect APS pop up ads whenever we look at a listing?
"financial arrangements' - sounds scary. APS members, watch your pocketbooks.
ebay does nothing for free.
So here it is almost the end of June, and the APS board has known since early
May. The rest of the world finds out via a piece in Linns. Why be so secretive?
June 23, 2003 Brian R (briguy)
Hmmmmmm
Here's a seller whose "estimate" is juuuuust
a little off
June 23, 2003 Laurel A (laura598)
Richard Frajola Would you settle for Navajo ?
called twirling logs there were more obvious examples of it in this book,
but I lost my place and patience. If you flip around in the book there are lots
of nice examples of weaving without it too. Also this book = The Swastika Symbol
in Navajo Textiles by Dennis J. Aigner. DAI Press, Laguna Beach, California,
2000. I wanted to say I love your site. Been lurking in there very regularly for
3? mths. ahh I confessed!
June 23, 2003 David Benson
Bill, can't see the 25pi., the other looks OK but I can't explain the perf.
variation. Most probably OK and not a Turkey, (pardon the pun) but would have to
be certified if you want it to get listed (but I have a feeling that it will
come back as a fake overprint).
David Benson
June 23, 2003 George K
Almost Pregnant
Bill C: No, it's more like "almost unaltered", or "only somewhat reperfed", or
"more-or-less original gum", and my favorite, "perhaps maybe could possibly be
genuine (mostly)".
June 23, 2003 17:34 Jim Gaul <(hungaryjim)>
nomad55 I let my online subscription to Linns lapse. Care to share what
you read about the APS? Jimbo2
June 23, 2003 17:26 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Inverted Jenny
George These
Inverted Jennys never go away. The frame is inverted on this one.
June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Papier mache???
June 23, 2003 17:07 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Worht Soaking?
IOmoon What would I be left with if I
Soaked THESE? ;-)
June 23, 2003 16:42:25 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Good deals
It looks as if I've come out better than expected in some trading I did
earlier in the year...
This is an example of the 1917 PTT overprint on the 1869 perf 13½ 5 piastre
blue, unlisted in any catalog I've been able to find, and with the scarcer yet
grayish blue color. The full blue version is listed in Burak at 1,000,000 Lira
(1974 values), about 33,000 times the price of the base stamp. I have only seen
one other, and it was the full blue instead of grayish.
This is an example of the 1916 overprint on the 25 piastre of 1908. It's not
too awful expensive (Scott catalog is $15.00), but it's only know perf 12. This
one has compound perfs at 13½x12. It's not shown in any catalogs, and my best
source for Turkey answers pretty much just said "Will you trade it with me?".
:-)
June 23, 2003 16:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Almost Pregnant
George Is
Almost Imperforate Between like being Almost Pregnant?
Forgery
Identification Site
June 23, 2003 Prometheus
Bill Clad = Thanks
Tremendous Link there thanks for sharing that great link.
Thanks
June 23, 2003 nomad55
Anyone else see the blurb on the bottom of page 3 of the recent Linns? Just
reinforces my decision many years ago to never join APS.
June 23, 2003 15:26 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Penguins
Linux is only my second choice, but Solaris (Sun) isn't really something for the
consumer market so getting a scanner or digicam connected would be hard at best.
No, I haven't started collecting penguins on stamps...
June 23, 2003 Brian R
seconds
Laurel & George K You may both rest easy. There is no shortage of damaged
seconds out there. If fact, my US classics album, could accurately be labeled a
philatelic freak show!
I'm doing my best to preserve one sorry example of each for posterity.
June 23, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
just too tired
Sorry but last post was TO bjorn but instead of my name used his ... SORRY!
June 23, 2003 Bjorn Munch
Penguins
Dear Bjorn, Micro$oft free means only TUX (and or other flavours)around your
computers?
Regards
Mauro (Sorry too for non philatelic post)
June 23, 2003 200 Michael Morkin <hobbes9324@aol.com>
old swastikas
On this previously mentioned topic, my wife and I just got back from a cruise
and in a small but interesting museum in Santorini, there were dozens of pots
and amphora dug up from (I believe) Thera, each with multiple swastikas in the
decoration design - so its been around for a looooooooooooooooong time...
June 23, 2003 Bob Hohertz
Tobacco Tinfoil Taxpaid Collection
Tinfoils are attractive and 'exotic' things to collect, but a bear to store and
mount for exhibition (have seen it done once, so it obviously can be done..) I
had a bunch but sold most of them a few years back. There are paper counterparts
as well from 1878, the source of the Spanish American War imprints for revenue
stamped paper. These are NOT common.
June 23, 2003 13:25 Bjorn Munch
Micro$oft, not Miscro$oft (sorry I've just had a few beers...)
June 23, 2003 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Messy desk (sort of)
Jim, I did use vi as late as yesterday, to change the time in a crontab
file for a server at work, from home. Booting up emacs takes too long. BTW, I've
long since declared my apartment as a Miscro$oft free zone. :-)
Sorry about the technical and no-philatelic post...
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
Richard W I wouldn't trust any American based auction house to know the
"peacock" overprints. Most however wouldn't bother to run them without some good
reason to believe they were genuine. Some houses will run anything that comes in
the door - it would seem that Apfelbaum may well be one of them.
June 23, 2003 Richard W.
Damn. Sorry, excuse the bold.
June 23, 2003 Richard Warren
bubblegum
Dave P - Hey, I remember fondly those bubblegum packets with Confederate
notes in. I may still have one or two of the notes tucked away somewhere - they
maybe have some small collector value these days? The gum company was called
ABC, I think, and each packet also contained a luridly coloured card showing a
scene from the civil war. Every battle scene included plenty of gore - soldiers
bloodily impaled on bayonets, severed limbs etc. The gum, as I remember from 40
years ago, tasted awful.
Going back to certificates, I've come across duplicate items being offered
on Ebay, but with one certificate between them. In response to my query, the
seller advises that the original cert goes with the first item, and photocopies
of it (!!) with the others, even though the certs are for one item only. This
is, of course, very naughty - and unnecessary, as well, as it happens, as the
items are obviously good. But my question is - if there is no photograph
indelibly attached to a certificate (these are BPA, 1979, and in any case, the
certs are for full sheets), how does one prevent anybody from switching the cert
from a good item to a bad one?
And a final musing - I don't bid at many auctions, but I'm aware of Earl
Apfelbaum Inc as a significant name, so I had a browse recently through their
Burma lots. How come such a prestigious name is offering so many blatant
forgeries of Burma JO peacock overprints at $150 each? These overprints are
difficult sometimes, and I've been fooled myself, but these particular examples
are so wrong that I am 300% confident in my opinion, and a blind man on a
galloping horse, as the saying goes, would agree with me on this. Just wondered
...
June 23, 2003 George K
Another "Inverted flying jenny stamp NR"
(2935629597)
"Here is a stamp that I got from a collector a while back I dont (sic) know
anything about the stamp but figured that someone might be interested in it. It
is a 24 cent stamp with red and GREEN (emphasis mine) and the airplane is
printed on upside down. Item is being sold as is there are no garentees (sic)
bidding is done at ones own risk. Shipping is .37 or send a SASE. I would
recommend insurance for $1.40, but that is up to you just let me know when
auction ends.
Thanks and good luck on your bidding. Picture is a sample picture not actual
stamp because my digital camera broke. (oops!)"
Oops indeed. I sent him an email expressing a wee tiny bit of skepticism
about his "jenny", and the rather monumental coincidence about the timeliness of
his camera problems. Anyone else wants to jump in feel free. And he actually has
13 bids for a whopping $27 whole dollars (USD) already too. Fools rush in......
June 23, 2003 George K
"...a shortage of low value, damaged stamps..."
Laurel (laura598):
Don't worry. If there is any such shortage it won't be due to you. It will be
because Greg St....er, pcheltenham has bought them all up on the eMonster and
transmorgrified them into pristine, Post Office fresh beauties. If I were you, I
would hang on to those damaged stamps, they may bring a premium over altered
genuine someday.
Seriously, con artists have been "improving", "enhancing" and "upgrading"
damaged stuff since at least when it first started getting damaged about 163
years ago. In the past 16 months, I have personally witnessed vast quantities of
damaged being purchased and transformed. I am really surprised there are are any
damaged LEFT by now.
June 23, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Messy Desk
Bjorn, ah well, and I had such hopes for you, too...
I develop at a PC shop, but my co-workers say I've got the most UNIX-looking
PC they've ever seen. I use vim within cygwin to develop. I even mapped my
CAPS-lock key to CTRL. I've tried to get the company to migrate to UNIX, but no
luck so far.
Jim
June 23, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
CSA
Brian
It is not just the stamps that fooled people. Some years ago a company in the UK
gave away reproductions of confederate notes with bubblegum. We used to get
people trying to change tham at the international bank I then worked for
........
Never underestimate the gullibility/stupidity of the public!
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
I have sold a fair amount of CSA bogus and forgeries (over $10,000 worth in the
last year alone). As a general guide - SA Taylor products sell for around $12.50
each except the rare ones (overprinted papers, etc which bring more than $25).
Upham products around $10 each and those after Moen designs closer to $20 or
more. The "common" older ones fetch at least $7.50.
June 23, 2003 10:07 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Tobacco Tinfiol Taxpaid Collection
WOW! I just got my Nutmeg catalog in the mail and saw the
Tolman Tobacco
Tinfiol Taxpaid Collection and was floored! Even though I could never afford
them, boy are they interesting. Take a look and make a comment.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 23, 2003 Brian R
csa's
Johnathan Claghorn isn't yanking your chain, CSA collectors will pay good
money for known fakes (although i'm not one of em). Normally, this involves the
older "bogus" issues (never really existed) and the homemade attempts, like your
woodcut versions of the #6, and the N.O. provisional. Modern fakery is viewed
with disdain and doesn't sell. In the last half of the 19th century, many
collectors, especially WorldWide, had no idea what confederate stamps looked
like, and thus many of the attempts were successful. Your "blockade postage"
issue is one of the more famous. Check out these current auctions, 2936040950,
2936040474, 2936030136. Each is an example close to what you have. If you add up
similar start prices for what you showed us, you're already well over $100. Nice
find
However, if your planning to ebay them, please refer to the altered plate
stamps as such or as private issues. Personally, I think that sellers that call
them "trial proofs" or "essays", are being intentionally deceptive.
June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
I have to admit, I would never have found "Iroonian Islands".
June 23, 2003 Laurel (laura598)
Richard F.
Will do! I will locate all reference I can and get back to you. I am no expert
on American Indian artifacts so I will definately defer to you knowledge . One
course I took, we followed various symbols etc through art the Swastika was one
of them.
June 23, 2003 06:37 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
IOmoon Did you catch the
IROONIAN ISLANDS in your search?
Forgery
Identification Site
June 23, 2003 06:29 Jim Watson
Paul,
Nice panoramas! Makes a nice way to show the scenery.
Io,
Who's that guy in front of the lion? ;-)
June 23, 2003 Richard Frajola
Laurel I would welcome learning of any reference you might have for the
use of the swastika by the Hopi. I have collected Hopi weavings and cultural
products for many years and have never heard of the use of that symbol. Thanks.
June 23, 2003 06:25 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a picture postcard from
Columbia in
1932. It has a picture of the DO-X and SCADTA cancels.
I'm running late today after 8 inches of rain this weekend. . . It is still
raining. . . Now just how long is a cubit?
June 23, 2003 06.51 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
Svieiki! - Hi Paul. Nice pictures!! I used to live in Hvidovre so I
think I know the beach even if the looks a bit different. :O)
K.E.
June 23, 2003 05:26 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Corner Letters
IOmoon I love these
Corner Letters
Forgery
Identification Site
June 23, 2003 Laurel (laura598)
Good morninng all! I predict a shortage of low value, damaged stamps. I believe
I have cornered the market.
The swastika was used in the U.S. on the shoulder patches of the 45th
division during WW1. The reverse swastika,( the arms going in reverse ) can be
found in art, temples,mosaics, and jewelry of India preceding 100 bc. Sort of
simplified mandala or sun sign. I believe it was used in Hopi weavings,
pre-dating tourists or traders. The symbol itself being very geometric lends
itself to weaving and mosaics. If memory serves me correctly, I saw in the
mosaics of Saint Marks,Basillica Venice 1200. I have some memory of it being
used by the masonics but my memory and that reference source have been hi-jacked
by my daughters.
June 23, 2003 sveiki!
Paul B. Sheryll envisioned this promising spam e-mail sent out by a
Florida based businessmann concerning working from home. {:o)
June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Thanks Chuck, I'll do some googling later today and see if its still out
there.
Northern Paul, nice pictures, here's one of
the
English Countryside, more specifically "the white lion of Bedforshire" (and
me).
June 23, 2003 Chuck Harm
Jim,
I used to have some software called TwinBridge which supported romaji to Kanji
interchange in Japanese and pinyin to character interchange in Chinese (both
simplified and traditional and mainland and Taiwan coding schemes). It also
supported a variety of other scripts - Russian, Greek, etc. I am not sure if it
is still available but might be useful.
The same sun is shining in Jersey this morning although I had some trouble
recognizing it.
June 23, 2003 5.02am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Sheryll was that a sewing machine I spied on your first desk photo - you
weren't doing a bit of clandestine rouletting ,were you?
Paul
June 23, 2003 sveiki!
A clean desk is a sign of ?!
Sheryll So, the desk was too big for the shredder? *hehe* {;o)
June 23, 2003 sveiki!
Beach Photo Shoot
Another little photo safari. {:o)
Yesterday wifey and I went to the beach located just 10 minutes drive from here.
Shot some photos of the
Baltic Sea seen from our side of the shores.
Two of the photos are a bit blurry - it's not that easy to auto focus when only
the sea shore and the sea is at sight. {:o)
Priecigus Janu un Ligo Svetkus! {:o)
June 23, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Gód dæg eall.
Spent the better part of yesterday evening downloading IE upgrade for Japanese
script. I must admit it was worth it.
Chuck
I must admit my greatest problems are in translating Japanese script into the
acceptable form of English. As an example, the characters for "big mountain"
translate as Dashan from the Chinese and Daisen from Japanese.
And the sun is actually shining in Scarsdale this morning.
June 23, 2003 4:50am Sheryll <sheryll@sheryll.net>
http://www.sheryll.net/
A clean desk is a sign of........
b>sveiki! - Watch you don't do overboard when shredding. My stamp desk turned
from
this to
this
after a mid-summer blitz.......
Sheryll
June 23, 2003 4.45am PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com>
I have just read the day's offerings on both Boards. In about 21 hours or so
since I went to bed last night, there have been only 36 posts on this Board and
29 on the eBay Chat Board (and a few the same). There must have been many other
interesting things to do for those regulars who were conspicuous by their
absence from both boards. Mind you, although not a regular poster, I can't
really speak, as I did not come on to the Board until a hour or so ago. And I
had to recalculate the numbers of posts because I had a long telephone
conversation with Sheryll before sending this off.
Paul ps Sheryll was threatening to post tonight on one of the boards.
June 23, 2003 4:43 John@Magnolia
Desks
I know that we all can't live in glass houses,but come on people lets clean up
the mess!If my stamp room looked just half as bad as some of the ones that I've
seen posted the past,Well lets just say that my stamp area would soon be located
in the the cab of my big truck,Shame Shame!
June 23, 2003 04:22 AM Jim_lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Indypex
INDYPEX
2003
is coming.
:8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
Jim L.
June 23, 2003 sveiki!
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
*gulp* Must clean desk, must clean room... to make photos and upload. *hehe* You
guys are making me more and more embarrassed. I guess most of my 4 week vacation
must be used to clean my stamp/computer room. {:o)
Saturday, I bought a paper shredder - perhaps now I can get rid of those darn
covers?!!! *LOL*
I guess not. But, it's very practical for sensitive informations - had a lot of
fun so far shredding all sorts of paper (no covers though).
June 23, 2003 3.55 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Office Piccies
Morning all from what promises to be a hot and sultry Baltimore ( at long last
!! ).
Just thought I'd post a couple of links to some piccies of the working side of
my office - my last picture was too clean !
Office 1
Office 2
Office 3
June 23, 2003 Vinod "vinobub"
Re. Japan
Dave, Colin Yes indeed I am in Japan now - been here for the last year or
so. Happy to provide any kind of assistance/ info that I can, but I should
clarify that:
(a) I'm not a long-term,or long-time, resident- the usual tour of duty would
be around 2-3 years;
(b) I've nil knowledge of Japan philately or the local philatelic scene, I'm
afraid. My specialisation is British Empire George V Fine Used - limited overlap
there!
Having said that, fire away - I'll do my best.
Regards, V.
June 23, 2003 00:09 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Messy desk
Jim, the answer is emacs. The other box is running Linux. I've had my Sun
for 5 years, and last year the company I worked for got acquired by ... Sun. I'm
hoping some of the servers at work will get "pensioned" soon so I can upgrade to
something more powerful.
June 23, 2003 11.23 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
Personalised Generic sheets
Sorry about that last post chaps and chapesses. I really must not post at 7am
before I am awake!
Chuck
I suspect that GB personalised generic sheets will never have more than a
curiosity value as the unpersonalised sheet has no more than a footnote in
Gibbons, so I have been told. But then, stamp collectors always have been
unpredictable!
I concur with your comments about them Jim
Colin
June 23, 2003 11.19 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
Personalised Generic Sheets
Chuck
I concur with your comments about them Jim
Colin
June 22, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Messy Desk
Sun box! Bjorn has a Sun box!
OK, now the big question - emacs or vi?
Jim
June 22, 2003 21:15 Lavar Taylor
Good evening/day to all. Today's featured item of postal history focuses on
Germany. When one looks at
this cover,
one thinks of a dealer's 50c box. One does not think of a postal history rarity
(and I am not talking about a rare shade of the stamp, either). This is the most
common of German stamps, a 10c Germania, watermarked, sent from a large German
town, Cassel, on Sept. 30 1912 to Los Angeles, CA. There are no postal markings
on the reverse. What makes this cover so special?
This cover, franked with a 10c Germania, instead of a 20c Germania, was sent
with the special concessionary rate in effect between Germany and the US
starting Jan. 1, 1909. That makes it uncommon. What makes it really rare,
though, is the fact that it is private correspondence. Most treaty rate mail was
commercial, not private correspondence. Most individuals were unaware of the
special rate. Per Jerry Jensen, who created a 1 frame exhibit of treaty rate
mail from Germany to the US, there are only a "handful" of private
correspondence covers sent to the US at the treaty rate, which lasted for about
6 years. I found this cover at a local bourse, paid 50c for it, and for another
similar one (from the same correspondence). If you want to see Jerry's exhbit,
take a look here .
June 22, 2003 Rich Wong
Chuck
I moved to Hong Kong to work in September, 1997.
Other than Yang, I don't know or go to any other dealers in Hong Kong. I only
buy supplies from Yang.
I buy new issues from Hong Kong Post. I buy my other Hong Kong stamps through
eBay, even local eBay sellers! It's cheaper!
I have gotten postage at below face and seen definitive first and last day
covers selling below the face value of the stamps. The bottom has fallen out of
the speculative last Elizabethan issues since you can't use them for postage.
June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm <macalusoharm@sprintmail.com>
Rich
I lived in Hong Kong from 93 to 96. Still miss dim sum at City hall every Sunday
morning! Great place to live. Can you recommend any local dealers who can work
through email on more modern postally used issues? I need to fll in some of the
dated QE heads from 89-92, some of the dues after 1965 and most stamps after
about 97.
June 22, 2003 Rich Wong
Chuck
I don't have a feel for usage of the 1999 New Year stamps. The local and China
rate stamps sold out first as people did use them for mailing out greetings. I
would say that most receivers did not scratch off the panel and people preparing
first day covers did not either.
Yang only assigned a single number to each of the 4 stamps - C530 to C533.
I do think Hong Kong is issuing too many stamp varieties. I wish I was on the
stamp advisory commitee. I'm in Hong Kong and subscribe to new issues. I've
protested and actually got a response which said stamp societies in Hong Kong
were in favor!?!?
June 22, 2003 Rich ard Wong
Sorry about the messed up lines, the message box is shows up wider than my
screen and I hit ENTER for a new line and also inserted HTML paragraph breaks.
June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm
Hong Kong Stamps
Richard,
Thanks for the info. Because I collect postally used I run about 4-7 years
behind current. Also I have lost my Hong Kong dealer for recent stamps so it has
become even harder. Do you have a feel how often the panel was scratched off in
real postal usage? Has Yang only assigned a single number to the stamps despite
the 10 messages?
I am converned that it looks like Hong Kong is becoming a stamp mill and
issueing far more than is reasonable.
June 22, 2003 5:04 PM Richard Wong (richwong)
Hong Kong New Year Stamps
Chuck
You're talking about the 1999 New Year stamps which were issued in sheets of 10
and 4 values - $1.30, $2.50, $3.10 and $5.
If you collect used with the gold ink scratch-off panel intact, you only need 4
stamps. But if you want to see the greeting message
hidden under the gold ink, you'll need 40 stamps!!! There are 10 different
messages (in Chinese ), 1 under each of the 10 stamps
in the sheet!!
Hong Kong has been getting creative with its stamps. I guess they hope the
novelty will sell more stamps. The 2003 New Year
stamps (Year of the Ram) were a set of 4 stamps - $1.40, $2.40, $3 and $5 in
sheets of 25, souvenir sheet of the 4 values, souvenir
sheet with an imperf $5, souvenir sheet with pure gold and silver foil $50 Ram
and $50 Horse stamps, 4 "Flocked Paper" $10
Dragon, Snake, Horse and Ram stamps in a sheet of 16.
Now the post office has announced that future commemorative souvenir sheets will
not duplicate the stamps in the set. The
souvenir sheet will have a different stamp of $13. This is so collectors will
have a new stamp to pay the fee for Registration!
June 22, 2003 16:42 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Messy desk
Bill, it would take several million stamps to "corner the market"... My idea was
to sort out variants and cancels. BTW, this isn't the desk where I do stamp
sorting and such, it's my computer/work desk.
June 22, 2003 16:27:32 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Messy desk
Bjorn, perhaps your thought was that if you bought several lots of 50,000
each, you could end up cornering the market, driving the catalog value up
several fold, then make a killing by reselling them individually on eBay?
Your desk is much to clean to be able to get anything done. :-)
June 22, 2003 16:20 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Midsummer
A view from my roof terrace at 1AM, i.e. true
midnight. Taken at
1/20s. This is to NW, I tried one due N, but the sky was too bright and so the
buildings look too dark.
June 22, 2003 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>
Machin FDC
Any use to anyone email is above.
3FDC
June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm
jim
Makes a tough call as to what to collect. Easy way out is to collect catalog
numebrs and that is reinforced by many album pages. A similar situation exists
in Hong Kong with some stamps they made with scratch-off panels under which was
a New Year's greeting. Since I collect used stamps should I collect ones with
scratched off greetings or just postally used with the greetings still covered.
I still haven't decided.
June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
colin
I can't help you on prices of UK personalized, my most recent catalog is 2001.
Perhaps someone else has newer.
chuck
I think only if the market will put up with it.
Personally I would buy a generic version but not one with someone elses ugly mug
splattered all over it (unless, of course, it was a scantily clad female, but I
think there are rules against that).
Essentially each personalized sheet is a one-off (unless some people got really
carried away) rather like
PVI
labels each of which is unique but few people collect.
June 22, 2003 14:34 Bjorn Munch (bjornmu)
Messy desk
Here is my late contribution.
I had to get a 2nd computer a year ago for technical reasons (the right one) to
connect to the company network. In the boxes in the corner you'll find e.g.
30,000 copies of the 1951 30 ore Haakon VII definitive which I'm not sure why I
bought. The book piles are mostly catalogues I use to check eBay items (I need 5
different editions of Norgeskatalogen), two dictionaries etc. Picture taken at
11:14 PM.
June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm
Personalized Sheets
Jim,
Once it gets a seperate catalog number I think price escalation is guaranteed as
the quantity is limited and it is needed for a "complete" collection.
June 22, 2003 2:27pm Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>
CSA's - Real or Fake - Thanks
Brian R
- Thanks for the clarification on the CSA's
claghorn1P
- You think I've got $200 there? You yanking my chain? I'll be happy with a
fraction of that. Maybe not such a bad find in a box "junk lot".
Sorry for the delay - been getting some yard work done between rain drops.
Jonathan
June 22, 2003 02.23 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/GB_Special_Issues/
Japan & GB Generic Sheets
Iomoon
It looks that way from the Sakura catalogue Jim , and I hope that is
the reason for the personalised sheet being more expensive, as I made some for
my grandchildren on the GB Generic sheets a couple of years ago, and kept a
complete sheet of each for my collection! Not having a more modern GB Catalogue,
do you know their values, and that of the first London 2000 Generic Sheet (not
personalised)?
I have been selling presentation packs and PHQ cards for my son-in-law. By
themselves they do not sell, but I find that having the Pack and the PHQ cards
of the same issue sells better. I have just had one auction end and the Scotland
new regionals made £10.50, much to my surprise! I think I’ll tell the buyer
about all the others I have for sale!
Busy weekend helping my son out at his churches over near Pontefract, so I
had better turn in now. I will log on again in the morning. The “Heat Wave” here
is continuing, and that includes the odd heavy thunder storm!
Colin
June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Yes chuck, UK does same thing when it sells their personalized sheets.
I can see how the person having the sheet personalized would want to pay more,
but I can't really see someone else paying extra money for a picture of someone
they probably don't know.
I may be wrong!
June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Either eBay crashed or is experiencing a go-slow.
Just loaded three auctions, got screen confirmation of all three.
Got email confirmation of the first.
The other two seem to have disappeared.
June 22, 2003 Chuck Harm
PhilaNippon Sheet
Jim
Sakura notes that the personalized sheet sold new for 1100 yen versus the 650
yen for the standard sheet.
June 22, 2003 MagnoliaStamps
Even Worse
3 post in 6 hours,ebay is winning!
June 22, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dave
I gather that you went to Phila Nippon'01.
I see that the second souvenir sheet - C1835 in Sakura comes in two flavors.
Am I right in assuming that C1835 is the generic version and C1835A is the
personalized version. Is that the only difference that accounts for the three
times price difference of the latter?
June 22, 2003 12.26 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
Japanese Colours and Catalogues
Dave & Jim
I have been away all weekend and away from all my catalogues. A very
interesting discussion on Japanese Colours. As to the Sakura 196 & 199, as Dave
said, the Specialized gives two colour shades for the 199. And as the watermarks
are different I don’t suppose the worried too much about description of dull
ultramarine for both. It is standard practice for the shades to simply compare
the stamps of the same issue, so the 2 “dull ultramarines” may well differ, as
the 199 dull ultramarine is so in comparison with 199a, described as “dull
blue”.
I am only just getting down to comparing the shades on the early 1900’s
stamps, and the Specialized is the best guide, though I do use Gibbons as a more
understandable definition of the perforations, not understanding Japanese!
But as an easy to use catalogue I find Sakura invaluable, the colour
photographs being great in finding what you want. I wonder how they produce it
at such a low price? Perhaps Vinod knows?
Colin posted 22.6.03
June 22, 2003 10:17 Dave ("philatarium")
Vinod:I didn't realize you were in Japan. Are you travelling there, or do
you live there? I have several questions for a stamp-person living in Japan.
June 22, 2003 magnolia stamps
John L Kimbrough
I would love to have one my SASE is in the mail.
Thanks,,,,,,,,,John
June 22, 2003 0755 PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com>
http://www.csastamps.com
CSA Fakes
With all the talk recently of CSA Fakes, this would be a good time to remind
the board readers that the 1994 Confederate Stamp Alliance publication "How to
Tell the Genuine from the Counterfeit" by Kreiger and Powell is still very much
available. And it is FREE. It was never meant to be sold. I have a box
full of them and would be happy to send one to anyone who wants one.
For anyone who would like one of these booklets, all you have to do is send
me a standard #10 business size SASE (60c postage please within the USA) and I
will be happy to put one in the mail to you as long as my supply holds out. If
you are outside the USA, airmail postage would be $1.60.
John L. Kimbrough
10140 Wandering Way
Benbrook TX 76126
June 22, 2003 Vinod "vinobub"
Frozen Date cds
Chris,
your memory is better than I thought! Thanks very much for the response. Off to
bed now. G'night all from Japan
Rgds,V.
June 22, 2003 Prometheus
Bill W = fakes
I know that many things are/have been used for Bogus Postage, Remember I'm new
at this hobby.
Where you and others have seen thousands of examples of everything well almost.
I have only seen a few thousand in total and Have a habit of getting one of
anything new I see
Just to learn.
My favorite part wasn't the Use of a non stamp for postage it was the Non
Payment of Postage on his Property Tax Debt.
I viewed it as a neat way to protest
June 22, 2003 6.32pm PT Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Goodnight all.
June 22, 2003 05:12 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Indypex
INDYPEX
2003
is coming.
:8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year.
Jim L.
June 22, 2003 Chris Ceremuga <ceremuga@hotmail.com>
"frozen date" cds
Vinod: I think I know which exact item you are referring to! As David replied
"frozen date" means a fixed date. In this case we are talking about the old
German New Guinea "Stephansort" cds with "13" year date which was discovered in
damaged condition (missing date plugs etc) during Australian Occupation period &
provisionally used in Rabaul PO about November 1914 to January 1915. It
represents proper & contemporary cancellation on GRI overprints & does not have
any negative connotations.
Note: German NG PO officials had sealed instructions to in the event of war to
destroy / dispose off all cancellers etc, and that was followed in most PO's
with only the Stephansort & Buka cds surviving.
June 22, 2003 sveiki!
Happy solstice!
It's so nice to watch the skies at 3 am.
It's not getting dark at all in the part of the hemisphere. {:o)
June 22, 2003 04:04 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a colorful cover from
Portugal to
Germany in 1895. My, what an excellent port!
June 22, 2003 David Benson
Vinod, sorry, never heard of it but it must mean a cancel with a fixed date.
Can't see any purpose unless it means a forged cancel that didn't have any way
of changing the date and only exist with the one date.
David Benson
June 22, 2003 Vinod Menon
Philatelic Question
Could David (D2) or anyone else clarify precisely what is meant by a
"frozen-date" CDS? Is this the same as CTO? Possibly non - contemporary? I
gather it has an undesirable connotation (or does it?) but what exactly does it
refer to?
TIA.
Vinod
June 22, 2003 David Benson
Dave, just checked the 2001, 2002 and 2003, all have it as CC. Think it was only
a hiccup in 2000,
David Benson.
June 22, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
False Hopes
We all know the feeling when you think you have discovered a real rarity, or
something new. Was checking through some stamps for possible listing when I came
across a nice used copy of the first (1879) Gold Coast halfpenny. But Gibbons
(2000 Part One) lists this with Crown CA watermark, mine is clearly Crown CC.
Visions of a small bonanza! Then I smell a rat, the 1883 halfpenny has an
identical description. So I look it up in an old (1993) Part One, and sure
enough the 1879 issue is listed as Crown CC – thoughts of sudden wealth
evaporate.
Well thank you Mr Gibbons, that is just plain cruel! Incidentally, I don’t know
if the listing has been corrected in more recent editions.
June 22, 2003 00.29 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
K.E.
June 22, 2003 00:20 Lavar Taylor
Finally have some stamp time after a horrendously busy week. Today's featured
item of postal history focuses on US mail to Germany.
This 2c
postal envelope was mailed from Hartford, Conn. on Dec. 17, 1911 to Berlin,
Germany. It was uprated with 2 additional stamps to pay the 5c international
letter rate. The sender apparently did not know about or did not care about the
2c treaty rate in effect for mail to Germany from the US, a rate which applied
to mail sent on ships traveling from the US directly to Germany (i.e., non-stop)
at that time. There is nothing very significant about this cover until one takes
a look at the
reverse , which has a single copy of WX7. Although not tied, close
mangification leads me to believe that the seal has been there for a long time.
Although not valued by the US Specialized catalog on cover, I imagine that they
are hard to find, even harder to find tied.
June 21, 2003 David Benson
Bill, looks OK (at least it's better than the one currently resting in it's
place).
David Benson
June 21, 2003 22:49:30 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Yugoslavia
David, what's you opinion on
this
[best scan I could get from the seller]? It seems goo to me, except maybe a
little fuzzy on the top line...
June 21, 2003 22:41:50 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Bob, I suppose I could always revert to the description "See scan, may be
a default or two." and just change scans for each lot. :-) As it is, it's tough
to get more than a couple of days worth of these types of listings in per week,
except for things like the stockbooks, where I can use the same description and
images for each lot.
June 21, 2003 22:38:30 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Darn
Nearly got it right! The
last one.
June 21, 2003 10:37 Bob in WA
tagging, etc
My guess is that when the machine doesn't detect tagging, it kicks out the cover
to be inspected by a human. If the human isn't bright enough to tell a TB label
from a stamp, he may still pass it on.
What I've always wondered is what if it detects the tagging from a 29¢ stamp,
or a 22¢ stamp, etc. Can it tell them from the required 37¢? I doubt it. Are
there any tagged 1¢ stamps? (Just kidding.)
Bill -- I'm with you, it would take me all day to list 10-20 lots. I
know the regular sellers use the turbolisters and all that. I sure appreciate a
nicely written description, though, that was obviously written for that
particular lot. Many mass produced listings leave a lot to be desired. I think
the best way is to get all the pics in one file, and write up descriptions on a
dosument, ready to copy and paste when you actually want to post them. That way
you can work in bits and pieces for a few days, and choose the best time to
post, so auction end will be at a good time of the day and week.
June 21, 2003 22:34:13 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Messy Desks
And the challenge is on! :-)
Here,
here,
here, and
here are the images to create a panorama of the stamp portion of my bedroom.
Here is a view of the area between those and my bed. I agree that it's
really too neat to be a champion, I'm sure many of you can do better. :-) [BTW,
the album opened on the desk is my Turkey, it's busy catching me up on the
web... 26 pages down, 100 or so to go.)
June 21, 2003 Now Chris
I_am_the_urban_spaceman.com
Snipe or get nibbled
I got a reminder of why sniping is good yesterday.
There were two Hellecaster CD's at a very nice price.
I was going to be away from a computer at auction end, so I bid
my max at about 90 minutes before EOA.
The old high bidder nibbled me up from 15.50 to over my max of 20.51 and won the
auction.
He did not bid until he saw my bid, so had I been able to snipe at my usual 10
seconds, I'd
have got them at 15.50. (I'm not going to use a sniping service, just wait for
them to com up again.)
Chris - The Hellecasters are three guitar gods who play Fender Telecaster
guitars
Check out their version of the Peter Gunn theme
June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Desks
Bill, my messy desk with all my stuff on is behind me - I'll do a picture of
that one sometime.
With regards to listing, I use Turbolister which, once you have a template set
up, you can continue to use that each time for each lot. The only thing you then
have to add is a description and of course a title. I'm also blessed with the
fact that I'm a pretty good typer ( 55 - 60 words per minute ), which I think
also helps.
Off to bed now - got nearly 40 boxes to move into a rented storage facility
tomorrow, now that IS going to be fun !! ( NOT ! ).
Mark.
June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
new desk
Ah come on Bill, I think you purposely messed it up a little. I'd be embarrassed
to have such a neat desk.(;o)
One of these days I'll take a picture of mine, although I'll probably have to
snap the entire room because I'm not too sure where the desk is anymore.
June 21, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss
#315
I don't like it for several reasons; Bill S. points out what looks like a perf
hole, plus I see another at UL, the eyes have too much ink in them so no, it
doesn't pass the "eye" test and I also don't like the overall color, although
that can probably be influenced by the scan.
What I DO LIKE is the fact that they seller is apparently honest to allow
extension, but the only qestion is will he PAY for an adverse opinion? If not,
the lucky buyer gets to spend $35/50. to find out he bought a trimmed stamp.
One other thing, there's also a small brown stain at the bottom, so even if it
got a good cert., that flaw would be noted at minimum. Although at anywhere near
the current bid it would be a good buy if it got a good cert.
June 21, 2003 20:28:54 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
new desk
Mark, but how on earth are you ever going to get anything done with a
desk that's that clean?
My desk...
June 21, 2003 20:23:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Whew
Just got done listing ten lost today. Took me most of the afternoon. How
on earth do you people listing many more than that do it? Just typing
descriptions with wording I could feel comfortable with took forever, much less
the HTML to make it look reasonably professional...
June 21, 2003 20:21:07 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
maybe??
Brian, doesn't look big enough to me... And is that the edge of a perf
hole I see at lower right? I doubt if it could get a good cert.
June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Nothing in particular.
Jim - Glad the check arrived Ok. Will let you know when the booklet turns up.
Just spent three hours putting my new desk / desktop hutch together/ My bedroom
actually looks like an office now - I guess I'll have to start putting in even
more hours !!
My New
Desk
June 21, 2003 Brian R
maybe??
Does anyone think
this one is big enough to pass muster? Bill W How does it hold up to
your "eye test"?
June 21, 2003 8:00PM Bill Weiss
Lung Association Seal on Cover
PROMETHEUS; The seal used to pay postage is neither a fake nor a forgery. Just a
fraudulent use of a seal to pay postage. From what I understand, anyone can get
away with such silly things used as postage (and I kind of hate to say all this
outloud lest some unscupulous folks go ahead and do it) simply because envelopes
of standard sizes are no longer handled by people. Only by machine, and the
machine can't tell if the item in the postage space is a bonafide stamp or not.
Only thing that always confused me about this theory was that I thought that's
why tagging was invented, so that the machine could "see" (detect) the tagged
stamp during the postmarking process. If that were true, only tagged things
should get through and you would think that non-tagged things would get
rejected. If any experts on tagging are here, perhaps they could enlighten us
about this.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dave
Twas the same festive spirit at
Brighton
June 21, 2003 Prometheus
fake = with the fixed link
see previous post Cover
UnrealStamp
June 21, 2003 Prometheus
fake
Did this item never exist as a fake because it's not an attempt to fool a
collector, But is in fact a true Forgery used with the intent to defraud the
Government??
June 21, 2003 Prometheus
Brian R = Thanks + K.u.k.Armeetrainfelddepot nr
1
Any body care to help me understand this
K.u.k.
Is this like an R.P.O. Just Army.
June 21, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
io Jim
I am honoured, did you wave? The "Clacton time-warp" is evident now summer is
here, stuck in the 1950's, all kiss-me-quick hats and cockles and winkles.
June 21, 2003 17:03 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
CSA's - Real or Fake
Jonathan Do not despair. The cruder "Wood Cuts" and the provisionals
still go for significant money these days. You should get at least $20.00 or up
to $50.00 or more each for the nine of the twelve in the upper left corner. The
others might get a buck or two each or half that in a lot of different. I would
say you have at least $200.00 worth there, probably more, even as forgeries.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 21, 2003 1700:39 Bill Burch <jackstay@ecsis.net>
Japanese, Chinese
You guys make me feel inferior. The only Chinese I know is how to order beer.
And the only Japanese I know is "sayonara", which I think everyone knows.
June 21, 2003 Brian R
Prometheus Your stamp is real.
June 21, 2003 Prometheus
KE = Whole post card scan
Sorry I didn't post it sooner been out finding more Used mail.
Whole Address side
HUNGOVPTCEN
Real picture side of a stunning Hungarian woman
FRont
June 21, 2003 Brian R
Jonathan I'm pretty sure Richard was refering to the fourth stamp from
left, third row. It appears to be an early hand drawn fake likely produced from
a woodcut.
June 21, 2003 Prometheus
CSA = Real I hope Opinions
This is another from my little hoard of CSA stuff
11
Opinions as to it's Origin would be enjoyed either way.
It's from an Old German album and as i have learned sometimes not real in it.
June 21, 2003 4:26pm Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>
Bogus CSA's - Again
Richard
In reading your post again about my bogus CSA'a you noted a 5c design in the
2nd row. I don't see a 5c in the 2nd row - did you mean the 5c green in the 3rd
row?
Jonathan
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dave
For some reason your last post reminds me I flew over Clacton on my way into
Stansted last week.
June 21, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
Languages
I am humbled by the linguistic skills of posters on this board, Japanese and
Chinese! It took me eight years to pick up a smattering of schoolboy French. On
the other hand after working for a time in an international bank I could
translate a Bill of Lading from about a dozen languages - all forgotten now,
though the ability to translate "mines and torpedoes" into Italian, or
recognising "flotsam and jetsam" in Polish was of little help for either
holidays, of philately!
June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm
Dave,
I was based in Hong Kong responsible for our Asian operations for three years in
the early 90's so taht it the source of my Asian philatelic interests. While
there I studied Mandarin and I had studied Japanese earlier. It is depressing
how fast language skills erode, but I can at least still use dictionaries and
knowledge of grammar so I can handle working our catalog information. At one
time in Chinese I could read about 1500 characters and so in Japanese I could
get a lot of meaning even if I couldn't pronounce them. I do collect Japanese
stamps although it is not currently my primary focus, that is still British
Asia, but I do pick up a lot of inexpensive stamps Japanese stamps to provide
quamtity when I go to shows. At some point I will get serious about Japan and
learn enough to safely buy the earlier issues but I suspect that will be three
or four years away. meanwhile I am having a lot of fun chasing prefecture and
other modern issues.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dave
Similar thing in geology.
The subdivisions of the geologic time scale in Chinese are essentially direct
translations of the latin on which the English is based. Hence Paleozoic
translates as "ancient life" direct from Chinese.
However, when it comes to rocks, such as andesite, the English translation of
the Chinese comes out to something like "white speckly rock". Out of context the
characters are almost totally meaningless.
June 21, 2003 14:00 Dave ("philatarium")
reading Japanese
Jim: I just had one more thought about reading Japanese on the computer.
With the later versions of Windows, these problems are handled more easily than
before. (Not sure what version you're on, or if you're even on Windows.) The
good news (and that's rare with Windows!) is that now, once I indicated to
Windows that I wanted to read Japanese, it loaded not only Japanese but also
Chinese and Korean! I was shocked when I inadvertently went to a Korean
philatelic website and the characters were correctly represented. (Not that I
could read them ...)
So, at some point down the road, if you upgrade your operating system, once you
can handle Chinese, then you've taken care of the Japanese problem at the same
time.
June 21, 2003 13:52 Dave ("philatarium")
Japanese colors
Jim: One other complication with the colors is that sometimes the same
color descriptions in Japanese are translated differently into English by the
JSCA. That arises not from sloppy translating, but rather, I think (or seem to
recall reading somewhere), that there is more specificity in English color terms
(especially for philately) than in Japanese. And also, if I recall correctly,
when the Japan Specialized started adding English color terms, they used the new
Stanley Gibbons color guide, in part because it allowed for greater precision
than color terms in Japanese would allow (and the color guide was already
developed). (There is not a general color guide for Japanese stamps, as far as I
know, although there were a couple of limited-edition color guides prepared for
the Kobans, etc. They sold out quickly and I was not able to find one on the
secondary market when I was over there for PhilaNippon.)
Back to my point about the inconsistent application of the terms, the color
description of the 188 (1922 Fuji deer 20 sen) is the same as for the 196 (1937
Fuji deer 20 sen, w1) in Japanese, but the term in English for the 188 is "royal
blue", while for the 196 is "dull ultramarine". Again, the Japanese description
is the same, but the English is different. So don't go banging your head against
the wall too much over this.
Chuck: I'm impressed by your language studies. I studied Japanese off and
on at college and later, and was pretty proficient at one point, but the
half-life deterioration rate of that kind of knowledge is pretty short for me!
Do your philatelic interests reflect the Chinese and/or Japanese background?
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
chuck,
I'm self taught with Chinese characters and have compiled my own quick reference
log of geologically-related characters.
I was just trying to take a short cut by seeing if there was a color chart -
japanese character - english translation already available on line.
June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm
Jim,
I can do limited translations of Japanese or Chinese. I studied each for 4 years
and can use character dictionaries. I don't have software installed at the
current time to input and send characters but my computer will display
correctly.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Dave
Pity that last color guide you linked didn't have Kanji characters.
It would have made life so much easier.
chuck
Paper difference could be a distinct possibility.
June 21, 2003 12:08 Dave ("philatarium")
Japanese colors
Jim & Chuck: I don't have the Sakura handy at the moment, and I don't
know, Jim, if you're trying to id between the two, but, as I'm sure the Sakura
indicates, there is a watermark difference between the 196 & 199. (196 is the
type 1 watermark (parallel zig-zag lines), while the 199 is the type 3 watermark
(how to describe: parallel straight lines interrupted by alternating
semicircles(?)).
But I bet you're not trying to id between them; just trying to understand color
differences.
Chuck, your explanation sounds plausible.
Looks like the 196s had been out for a month when the 199s came out. No doubt
explains the substantial price difference between them.
Always great to talk about Japanese stamps for a change!
June 21, 2003 Chuck Harm
Japanese colors
Jim,
You inspired me to get out my Sakura and Japanese dictionary. On the 199 entry
Sakura states that the printing colors are the same as issue IV (which includes
the 196). However there is a paper difference noted - the Issue IV is printed on
"writing paper" which appears to be offwhite while the 199 is printed on "white
paper". Perhaps that is affecting the final color. The Sakura illustrations
clearly show a color difference.
June 21, 2003 11:34 Dave ("philatarium")
Japanese colors
Jim: According the JSDA, the 196 is "dull ultramarine", while 199 has a
main listing also as "dull ultramarine", but also has a variant, 199a,
characterized as "dull blue". (No price difference between 199 and 199a, btw.)
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Thanks Dave
That was along the lines of what I was looking for.
I tried to download Japanese character reader but I keep getting "not available
at this time".
My reason for asking was with the definitives, 196 and 199 in Sakura.
Both are listed as dark blue whereas to me 196 is purple blue and 199 is
ultramarine or just plain blue.
June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
What might be a standard shipping cost to send a full sheet of stamps
domstically (U.S.) or internationally?
June 21, 2003 11:20 FERD W.
MACHINS v. EXPORTAS
BRIAN R.-Try Mexico EXPORTA definitives. Only 28 face different, 65
denominations, 14 different papers, 3 perfs and 3 types. Tagging differences,
watermarks, color shades, size differences in mm, varieties, errors. In 18 years
ONLY 22 rate changes. 122 Scott #'s, surface and airmail. Then gum varieties,
fly specking, etc. Have fun. F.W.
June 21, 2003 11:16 Dave ("philatarium")
Sorry -- don't know what happened to my html, typing, and proofing skills ...
June 21, 2003 11:11 Dave ("philatarium")
Japanese colors
Jim: There is also this site, which is designed to help reconcile
Japanese color palettes to web colors and hexadecimal codes.
http://www.color-guide.com/e_index.htm
However, it sites the Japanese names in romaji and English, which is
helpful if you're notlooking for the kanji, but not helpful if you are.
June 21, 2003 11:01 Dave ("philatarium")
Japanese colors
Hi, Jim. Just swooping in for a minute to ponder your question.
If you're looking for a short list of simple colors, then
this
listmight work. (Do you have Japanese enabled on your computer?)
What are your objectives? Are you dealing with color and shade questions of one
of the major definitive series? Or are you just looking to see if the Sakura
uses the same color descriptions on volcano stamps as, say, Scott or Gibbons?
More likely it's something in between. I would different solutions, depending on
the objective.
One tip is that, if you also have the JSDA Specialized, they have color
variations on some of the tough definitive series in both English and Japanese.
I may be able to provide more help, so let me know. However, I am away from most
of my reference materials for the next few days (I know you know what that's
like!), so I may not be able to be of as much help as I'd like to be, or as
quickly as I'd like to be.
June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
gum
Maybe someone can "remove" all the original gum from , otherwise, damaged
stamps, bottle it up and sell it to those people who have undamaged stamps that
are ungummed. As I've stated in the past, I guess I'm lucky because gum is not
improtant on Spanish stamps. I've bought several unused stamps without gum and I
wouldn't pay any premium for stamps with gum and NH. The gummed side is just not
that important, unless I was doing a gum study.
Having said that, I do think there should be a full refund for the stamp in
question. One thing I see is that because it's got no gum, it would be virtually
impossible to tell if it's never been hinged. The seller shouldn't be able to
make a claim like "MNH" when the stamp has no gum. He (the seller) cannot prove
it's never been hinged. At least with a gummed stamp, there is a chance to see
the previously hinged evidence. It's misleading at best.
June 21, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Non-philatelic post
Learned somethig very important today:
1.75 acres of tall grass to mow + 22 inch push mower + 80 degree temps = A
whole lot of NON-FUN. I think I lost 5 pounds though!
June 21, 2003 10:11 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Original Gum a vaouable commodity
IOmoon Original Gum is becoming a very valuable commodity, worth more in
it's weight than gold. Maybe some collectors should start mounting their stamps
face down so we all can appreciate it!
I for one perfer mint stamps without gum. They are easier to hinge that way,
the stamp stops cracking from old gum, and the stamps are less likely to stick
to the album. Stamps without gum should be more expesnive as someone went to the
bother to remove that pesky substance. ;-)
Forgery
Identification Site
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
colin &/or Dave
Have either of you managed to find a web site that lists colors on Japanese
stamps in both English and Japanese characters?
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
mark
It also pee's me off when a seller labels a stamp
as regummed then quotes value for mint stamp.
In this case, £450 versus £80.
BTW thanks for check.
June 21, 2003 9:24am Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>
CSA's - Real or Fake
Richard and Brian R
Thanks both for your info - yes I saw the interesting post yesterday about
the "altered plate". I scroll through daily while I eat my lunch at my desk at
work to see what's going on, but rarely come down to post.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Brian
'Fraid so.
Royal Mail started messing with tagging in 1957.
June 21, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Ebay item 2930119227 - Scott 113
I have to disagree with you John. The guy described the stamp as Mint Never
Hinged and quoted that catalog value for this stamp in the title. If I had been
looking at this I wouldn't have emailed asking if it had gum as, from his
description it clearly should have. The catalog value for ungummed ( in Scott's
normal catalog ) is $325. He needs to offer a full refund for mis-description.
Mark ( off to do some shopping )
June 21, 2003 Brian R
csa & machins
Jim O.K., I've got some regionals then. Haven't seen any doubleheads or
landscapes yet. Do I really have to blacklight these? Was the Royal Mail
actually messing with tagging back then (latest postmark i've seen is 1974)?
Johnathan Yep, those are all either bogus issues or altered plate
printings. The bogus issues(mostly) your top row can actually be worth some
money. Plenty of CSA buffs, maintain a secondary collection of the various
chicanery thats taken place, over the years, designed to separate them from
their money. The various colors of the 10c. Davis's you have were all made by
the "altered plate" the story of, John K. was nice enough to post about(if you
scroll back about a day).
If you go to www.rfrajola.com, you'll find a neat listing, and info about,
many of the CSA "bogus issues", including some of yours.
June 21, 2003 sveiki!
Knuden Nå, det var nu ikke noget særligt, har allerede glemt det. {:o)
Forresten, fandt Gnags CD'er på tilbud hos Føtex for 25 kroner stykket. Skulle
bare ha' 6 stykker. Alt er iøvrigt helt pingeling her, du skal ikke tage det
alvorligt når jeg svinger lidt i hvad jeg skriver om - det er bare mit forblæste
hovede. {;o)
iomoon You're welcome!
June 21, 2003 Richard Frajola
Jonathan The CSA are all fake or bogus. See my site
here. All of the 10c
stuff with design like CSA #6 is common but the Blockade stamp is worth $20 or
$25 and the 5c crude design in row 2 is maybe another $20. Both of those are
relatively early jobs.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Brian
Its quite easy.
The regionals are stamps issued to appease the Welsh, Irish and Scots.
Ireland has a hand, Scotland a lion on two legs and Wales a dragon on four.
Landscape as in your printer, horizontal dimension is greater than vertical.
Double heads have both Vicky and Liz.
June 21, 2003 07:49am Jonathan <jeltonk@maine.rr.com>
CSA's - Real or Fake
OK, I'm jumping out of the balcony and onto the stage. I've seen some discussion
on CSA's the past day or so and just came across
these in a box lot from a
local estate auction - (I know, I know, but these REALLY DID come from a local
estate sale). I'm assuming they are all reprints, but would like to verify with
someone who is knowledgable on CSA's. With some of the other stuff I've been
finding, it's hard to know. Any feedback is appreciated.
Jonathan
June 21, 2003 Brian R
machins
Jim W-S I appreciate the machin primer. Unfortunately, it appears to be
in another language to me. Regionals? Landscape? Double heads? Photo/litho?
(that I understand but have no clue how to determine)
I'm going to have to buy a book.
Now I'm mad at myself. I knew this was going to be quicksand, and I leaped
right in anyway. Someone should write, to the Royal Mail, and tell them that
normal postal authorities change their definatives evey decade or two!
June 21, 2003 7.10am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Off to bed. Goodnight all.
Paul
June 21, 2003 7.03am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim (Io) Not only did they have poor registration for the printing of the
name tablets, they also had poor registration for the perforation of the stamps.
More often than not, stamps of these issues are found badly off-centre.
Paul
June 21, 2003 07:02 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Indypex
INDYPEX
2003
is coming.
:8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. My offer still stand for getting
together for lunch on Friday. I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap)
places within walking distance.
Jim L.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Paul & Jimbo
Sometimes I wish I had duplicate libraries.
My copy of Brun is at the other end of the country.
Typography for the country name seems a distinct probability.
Judging by the variation in location within "the box" of the french colonies
country names, they had severe problems in registration.
June 21, 2003 Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Sniped, by another Jim!
Paul
June 21, 2003 Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim I recently acquired a copy of Brun's book "Out-Foxing the Fakers". In
it, Brun compared the characteristics of typography, lithography and recess
printing as often forgers use a different method to the one used to print the
original stamps. One of the characteristics of typography is a slight raising of
the reverse of the stamp (reverse embossing) although, depending on the pressure
used, this is often not noticeable. Maybe this is the effect that you are
seeing.
Paul (PS you might recall I won an eBay auction for a copy of this book last
year but, in a fit of perversity, the seller refused to provide shipping details
and I copped a retaliatory negative for my troubles. It was worth waiting for
another copy.)
June 21, 2003 06:13 Jim Watson
Io,
The impression is often seen when the stamps have been printed in a letterpress
where the type is set in a frame, inked, and then pressed against the paper. The
press generally has a backing paper under the paper on which the printing is
done. This is soft and is adjusted by layers of thin paper to accommodate
dimensional differences in the height of the type setup. This provides a 'soft'
bed which permits the high pressure of the press to create indentations where
the type hits the paper.
June 21, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Paul
Thanks for the reply.
I wasn't writing that country name was typewritten, just that the reverse of the
stamp is raised, corresponding to the lettering on the front side.
Implying a fair amount of pressure was added, in this case, in applying the
country name.
June 21, 2003 5.14am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Jim Whitford-Stark re your discussion with David B. on French colonial
stamps. Given David's reference to your collecting Mayotte, I presume you were
referring to the Peace and Commerce issue (1892/1900). I have seen imperforate
sheets of Indo-China made up of 4 panes (2 x 2) of 25 stamps (5 x 5). The
printing of the Indo-China issues were done by typography in two operations. I
don't know, however, how the forme was made up for the printing of the name
tablet. There are many minor printing faults in the lettering of the colony
name. I haven't seen any typewritten colony names or any mention of them.
Paul
June 21, 2003 04:24 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a registered cover from
Uruguay to
Jamaica in 1923. Say "Hi!" to this octagenerian!
June 21, 2003 Bjorn Langoren
Iomoon,
looks Babelfish produced that cryptic English:
Ich weiss - I know
grau - could mean dawn (at least in Norwegian, dawn and gray are very similar in
sound, In german probably the word has double meaning.)
Which color has the paper? ?? dawns or knows
Greetings Rolf
Welche Farbe hat das Papier? grau oder weiß??
June 21, 2003 23.51 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Blue cancel
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
Prometheus - Your blue cancel is a censor cancel from
Budapest probaly from WW1. :O) Can we see the entire card please.
K.E.
June 21, 2003 11:16 pm Bob in WA
No gum # 113
OK, I finally had to find the lot and see for myself. It is lot #2930119227. It
IS correctly called a #113, not #112, so I assume that was just a momentary
lapse on Michael's part.
In addition to the description saying Mint Never Hinged, with the connotation
we have been discussing, it also says "...with grill. ... If it didn't have the
grill it would be worth $2750." Here he is referring to Scott's listing in the
specialized of #113b, which says "without grill, original gum" !! So here is a
second implication that it has gum. He didn't say, "If it didn't have the grill
AND IT HAD GUM it would be worth $2750", he only mentioned the grill. (Kind of
like offering a C3 and saying "If the airplane was upside down it would be
worth...")
Finally, in both the TITLE and the description it says "$750 catalog value"!
That is the catalog value for a gummed copy. The specialized has a separate
listing for an unused no gum copy, about half as much. (In my 2001 Specialized
they are $650 and $300 respectively.) So here is yet ANOTHER definite indication
that this stamp has gum! Even though he never used the word "gum" in the
description, he has made three independent statements that indicate it is
definitely there! Even if you throw out the "definition of MNH" argument, you
still have a rock solid claim based on his price quotes.
Leastways that's the way I see it.
Bob in WA
June 20, 2003 John
Greg
Many years ago some collectors actually washed the gum from the stamp on
purpose!Thusly making it worth less by some of todays standards.But if you will
read closer in your scott cat. you will also see that prices for stamps befor a
certain date with full gum will command a slightly higher price.
June 20, 2003 Magnolia stamps
BTW
after setting here reading the comments to Micheal Plotnick I noticed that no
one has caught the fact that he refers to it as a 112 when it is really a
113.Look herehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=683&item=2930119227
June 20, 2003 Greg Olmstead
MNH
MNH probably already got beat to death here. But, since it's midnight here and
nobody will probably read this anyway, I feel compelled to offer the following:
According to the mighty Scott Publishing, purveyor of all stamp wisdom, stamps
are either "unused" or "used". If they are "unused" they may be "never hinged".
In the 2003 Scott U.S. Specialized I cannot find any mention of the word "mint"
or "mint never hinged". Personally, I have always considered unused stamps with
gum to be "mint" but who am I to argue with the mighty Scott Publishing?
June 20, 2003 Magnolia stamps
551
NOIP
finding a well centered stamp in this group is a little harder than
some.Could this be the cause for the higher bidding.Think people!
June 20, 2003 21:49:40 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Hungaria Question NOIP
Also of interest... That series of Hadi Segély overprints was the second
series. They also did one in 1914 (on the 1913 semi-postal issues) and a new
stamp design for 1916. After that, of course, things got a little ... hectic in
Hungary and I imagine the effort fell apart. Or at least that they had other,
more important, things to fund. The 1917 semi-postals are called 'Margitziget'
in this catalog.
June 20, 2003 MagnoliaStamps
No fraud.
Micheal P.
To start off with let me say your first mistake was to even have bid on an
off centered stamp that was to say the least Misidentifide.that should
have been the 1st tip off!That stamp is not a 112 but rather it is a 113.2nd
nowhere in the ad does say anything about gum!Why even bother to complain to
E-bay about your mistake in judgement,you shoug have asked for a picture of the
back of the stamp before bidding!And thirdly the dealer said the he offered you
a refund why have you not retunred it? and last but not least citibank has a
fraud and theft by deseption clause/that is if you have that on your
card!Therefore you will get no sympathy here as you got exactly what was listed
and what you paid for is what you got,maybe next time you will have the since to
go to a reputable dealer and look at what your buying first!
Now if you want to say that I'm some kind of an a--hole go ahead,but your the
one who bid on it!
June 20, 2003 21:36:59 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Hungaria Question NOIP
Your fist one is a semi-postal overprint, they sold for a little more
than face (that's the 2f on the right side) and were used to help fund aid for
war widows and orphans. I can't help you with the marking, I don't have a
Hungarian-English reference yet... [Though I need one, I've got a specialized
Hungary catalog here in Hungarian. :-)]
It's interesting to note that the base stamp used in that semi-postal is
shown in several perfs and several watermarks, and all are more expensive than
the semi-postals, where they don't seem to mention either perf or watermark
type...
June 20, 2003 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>
Hungaria Question NOIP
It might be my fault but I can't identify the overprint on this hungary 1915
HadLsegely
anyone know, is it me are did they use more Overprints in this part of wolrd
than anywhere??
Additional Hungary Question
BLUEWORDS
Is this a postal marking and if so What does it mean ??
Thanks in advance if you can help
Nomad = Thanks for the compliment on my Postal card scan from early in day I buy
some things Just because they have that great Eye appeal. Nothing rare nothing
fancy Just average, everyday mail.
June 20, 2003 6:21 pm Bob in WA
½¢ Hale going high
Mark -- One guess would be that the bidder "rickyhale" is a descendant of
Nathan Hale's who knows nothing about stamps.
June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Thanks for the info on the 551's !! I'll have to look out for some of them.
Jim - Yes please ! as long as it's chocolate :)
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
I forgot the Very Large Heads, put them under B - 1977.
mark
A piece of cake!!
June 20, 2003 4:58 PM Steve Taylor (aka philcomp)
http://www.timeblaster.com/tbeindex.shtml
A Sc#551 for $11 ???
Mark Bardell: Truly great 551's go for exceptional prices on eBay
(upwards of $20)...I think it is an 'eBay thing'. But that one isn't
particularly nice and it baffles me as well. Certainly not worth $11. Not even
worth a buck!
June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Machin stamps...
Jim, if it was as easy as that I would have started collecting years ago !! LOL
;O)
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Brian
A quick guide to sorting machin UK stamps.
First level
A. d (penny values) 1967-70 only. Phosphor band variants
B. High value large heads – 1967 - 2/6, 5/-,10/- £1, 1970 – 10p, 20p, 50p, £1
C. Regular perfs all round, p values.
D. Elliptical perfs
E. Regionals
F. Double heads
G. Landscape
H. NVI’s (No value Indicated)
Second level
C1. Litho
No 1/2p values. All x14 are litho
x14 = JW 4p,4,20,20. Walsall 2,14,19,24,29,29,31,33,39. Questa 2,5,5,75
15x14 All other Questa
Only(!!!) problem 2p Walsall and Questa
C2 Photo
All 15x14
C2a Chalk paper with bands
C2b Phosphor paper, no bands
C2c Ordinary paper – 50 & 75p only
C2d Ordinary or phosphor paper 50p only
D - My catalog not up to date
There are now five printers – Harrison, Walsall, Enschede, De La Rue, and Questa
All are 15x14. Different elliptical perf shapes (have not seen a study).
D1 Photo – 60p had not been issued in photo, all other values, yes.
By far the more numerous in terms of face values.
Subdivide on basis of band number and location
D2 Litho - 1,6,10,19,20,25,26,30,35,37,41,60,63 (when my catalog printed)
D3 Engraved £1.50 to £5 either Enchede or more recently De La Rue.
H1 Photo Harrison 15x14
H2 Litho Walsall x14
H3 Litho Questa 15x14
Also elliptical perfs and self-adhesives
(litho sharp value and borders, photo fuzzy values and “broken coil” edges under
high mag.)
June 20, 2003 4.35 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
Mystery bidding....
I may be missing something but why would this 25c cat value stamp be going for
$11 ???
This stamp.
June 20, 2003 3:19 pm Bob in WA
George -- You and I use the same meanings; "mint" and "unused" implying
with and without gum, possibly hinged or not. I do agree that "as issued" after
NG does enhamce it a bit. I really like your idea of checking boxes to clarify.
They need to do the same with shipping information. Both are too practical for
eBay to implement.
hobbes -- Sorry to hear about the suspension. I would hope they would
understand your explanatory apology and rescind with a good laugh. They've
probably received many such responses to legitimate eBay communications. (Geez,
it's gotten so bad eBay needs to figure out how to make their emails
distinguishable from all the phoney ones??) I've heard that it's best not to
reply, tempting as it is to rip into them, because some of those messages might
contain trojans or viruses waiting for you to open the door. Some people copy
the addresses and then go to a library or internet cafe to post their responses,
safe from any connection with the computer at home.
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
I had thought about it.
Unfortunately it is one of those areas where there are too many collectors, too
few stamps, and too many forgeries.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, the sheets were large and presumably the name forme was either in a row of
10 (or 2 rows or more at a time) or in some sort of block form such as 5 x 5
which would print the name on the stamps but would require many impressions of
the forme. It would be easier to handle than a complete forme. I have never seen
a collection which differentiated between the various impressions and maybe you
should start one with your Mayotte, only problem is availibility of material.
David Benson
June 20, 2003 David Benson
Io, I don't know if the plates for the names on the Tablets were reassembled
into the formes when required but presume they were. Quokka may know more as he
is into Indo China and may have blocks. If they were then there would be many
variants such as broken type, mis formed letters etc. It is a huge field that is
ignored as large multiples are seldom found.
David Benson
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
Sorry my misdescription.
Should have read more like typewritten on the stamps.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, they weren't embossed, they are heavier impressions of the printing of the
type that was used. Embossing needs male and female dies,
David Benson
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
While your still there, were the country names of the french colonies ever
legitimately embossed onto the stamp?
The lower left stamp of the Reunion ones I put up can be read from the back of
the stamp becase of the embossing.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, thinking deep down, I seem to recall seeing some of those on a grayish paper
once a long, long time ago. Maybe they are the originals and all the others on
white are reprints. The white paper are still available in sheet form with a
printed cancel.
David Benson
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, the German translates to Gray or White, possibly those Telegraph also come
on both papers but I haven't got a clue,
David Benson
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
I did.
Thought that the safest solution.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, I think those Tangiers are still being printed today and can come on any
paper you want. There may be an easy way to find out what he wants, ask him.
David Benson
June 20, 2003 sveiki!
hobbes9324 So, that's how to get an account closed?! *hehe* Have to keep
that in mind, even though there is an official way of closing an account. {;o)
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
Are you sure the Tangier didn't come on different papers?
What you say makes sense (somewhat).
June 20, 2003 David Benson
IO, I think I have figured it out, he pressed on your wrong lot to ask the
question but wants to know if the Chile is on Blued or White,
David Benson
June 20, 2003 204 hobbes9324 <hobbes9324@aol.com>
NARU'ed
LOL - got suspended by Ebay today - I got what I assumed was yet another scam
E-mail requesting a reply stating my accout had been suspended for improper
contact info. As an old timer, my Ebay name is my E-mail address - I don't think
they let you do that anymore - and I get at least one a week. Fortunatly, I only
made a mildly obscene reply - sometimes, especially if it's been a hard day at
the ER, I vent on the scammers with suggestions involving their mothers, various
barnyard animals, and activities that are physiologically impossible.
So, of course, this time it WAS really an E-mail from Ebay, and my account is
suspended. Sent off a profuse apology, and the info requested - hope they let me
out of jail.......
M Morkin
(hobbes9324@aol.com)
June 20, 2003 George K
stunning stuff12345
Michael Plotnick:
A couple months ago I caught this seller trying to pawn off a number of
altered pcheltenham stamps (clipped #36, perfed 15ct banknote proof, etc) as
genuine pristine items and as part of an intact "estate collection", which
inluded a few cigar boxes full of stamps and some albums. The story was patently
and verifiably false, since I had the pictures of the stamps before and after.
He pulled the lot after I threatened to report him to eBay, saying he bought the
stamps from pcheltenham in good faith. Apparently he didn't catch on that I was
accusing him of not SELLING in good faith, because of his phony tale.
In addition at that same time he was selling "one man's lifetime collection"
that the collector just happened to store in 40 cigar boxes (Riiiiggghhhtt). A
quick look at his other auctions showed a number of "surprise" lots with cigar
boxes full of stamps.
Then I looked at his buying habits. All he bought were big accumulations of
junk stamps for peanuts, and LOTS and LOTS of...........cigar boxes. You don't
even need a calculator to put that two and two together.
People like Greg St...excuse me, pcheltenham, and schuylerac, have made every
two-bit con artist out there think that it is OK to outright lie about the
provenance and condition and identity of what they are selling. After all, it's
just stamp collectors (sneer). It will be a long time before this can ever be
cleaned up.
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
I need help, can someone make sense of this?
Subject: Fragen fuer den Verkaeufer - Artikelnummer 2935862963 View Full Header
View Printable Version
From: frigga19@t-online.de
Date: Fri, June 20, 2003 3:26 pm
To: jlwstark@overland.net
Priority: Normal
Which color has the paper? ?? dawns or knows
Greetings Rolf
Welche Farbe hat das Papier? grau oder weiß??
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June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Ed
I'm in Yankee land till August.
June 20, 2003 George K
MNH
Bob in WA:
As you know, I peruse the US classics every day while strolling down the
venue, and I can tell you this - MANY sellers say "never hinged" on USED stamps,
and others use "mint" when there is no gum. I thought that "mint" was supposed
to mean not used with OG (hinged or not), and "unused" was supposed to be not
used, no gum. The terminology is very polluted at this point because of newbie
sellers and fakers and unethical sellers.
I would suggest that the venue implement a method like Yahoo's little
check-off box but expanded, to be part of each lot.
Unused or used (check one). Hinged or never hinged (check one). Gum (yes or
no), etc, etc. Then even novices can provide the proper information. A narrative
description could also be added so the seller could still tell his/her BS story,
of course.
June 20, 2003 1:30PM Bill Weiss
#546
GEORGE K.; While the color and impression of this stamp are OK, I don't like the
overall size of the stamp (too small). I am also very wary of bidding on ANY
stamp on ebay that can not be verified fairly easily. In this case, one would
need to be able to measure the size of the design to determine if it's a rotary
press stamp, then check for reperfing which is most difficult to do from such a
scan. My best advice is do not bid on such questionable items UNLESS the seller
is one who says something like "we accept returns for any reason within X number
of days" plus states good credentials, such as society memberships, etc.,
although being a member of societies doesn't preclude someone from trying to
sell misdescribed stamps! In my opinion, buying stamps without ironclad
assurances that you can get a refund if found through expertization to be not as
described, is committing suicide with your money. Why not email the seller and
ask him what his policy is for extensions for expertization? My guess is that he
will tell you either A. He doesn't allow them or B. He allows them but won't
refund the cost if found to be not as described (which means you get the
priviledge of spending $30-40. to find out the item is not as described!).
June 20, 2003 George K
riny218 at it again
2936133751 is just a typical sample of ALL his bulk lots.
For a BIN of only $377, you too can own the following - 233a, 10X1 (pair),
317, 331b, 333a, 336a, 337a, 338a, 366, 356, 388, 544, and an assortment of
additional rarities with a combined CV of nearly $40,000. And that doesn't
include a couple of pages of junky BOB either.
I am afraid I don't buy his "honest guy who is trying hard to learn" crap,
since we have been trying to educate him for years and he keeps pulling the same
exact tricks.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
Chuck, have you checked with the seller to verify it is watermarked CC. I abhor
descriptions that just state catalogue numbers without making a statement as to
perf. watermark, color, whatever, when there are many variants.
David Benson
June 20, 2003 George K
2936093279 a supposed 546
Can I get either reperf or Bill W or someone else to check this lot, please? I
don't really know the difference but I get real suspicious when a stamp has the
perfs almost cutting into the design on all 4 sides. Thanks.
June 20, 2003 Chuck Harm
Dave,
Thanks. Yeah it is the CC wmk, but I was just gicing the auction title actually.
Is there anything that you are not an expert on;-) How about you listing some
earlier Lauan stuff so I don't have to worry about the seller?
June 20, 2003 David Benson
Chuck, re the Labuan, have no idea what a Scott's 8 is but presume it is
watermark CC. The bars were also used for normal cancel and that looks like a
proper usage althought the red mark may have been added later. The 1st. thing I
would do is verify that it has a Crown CC watermark. If yes then presumably OK,
David Benson
June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Pet peave of the day - or just ranting
Sellers who say they ship on certain days, in this case Saturdays, only, which
is fine. The item I won ended on a Saturday, early enough I thought, for the
seller to get it off. I paid with Paypal within minutes of the auction ending.
Now, it's looking like I may be waiting 2 weeks for the item. So much for paying
fast, and hoping they mean that they will ship the first available
Saturday, instead of the following Saturday.
June 20, 2003 12:07 Bob in WA
MNH
Over the years I've seen the word "mint" used casually to mean "not used" and
have learned that to many it may not imply "post office fresh" even though
technically it should. "Never hinged" however, DEFINITELY implies the presence
of gum, because no gum stamps can be washed free of any old hinge marks without
harm, so the term is meaningless. I mean, when is the last time you saw "hinged,
no gum" in a description? I'd push hardest on the "never hinged" part of the
description as the basis of misrepresentation. Hope it can get ironed out
without the negs flying.
June 20, 2003 Richard Frajola
Whirling Logs Is the name I use for the design used by Native Americans
such as on this Navajo
rug that dates ca. 1915. The lines at edge of cross are reversed from normal
swastika I think.
Funny thing is that the design is probably not indigenious to Native Americans -
just like the "thunderbird" - the Navajo weavers were given design to duplicate
and the design was associated with Indians by Anglos even though probably not
used by the Indians themselves.
June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
It looks like you could put an interesting collection together, comprised of
items with a non-Nazi related swastika symbol on them.
Brian - Seems kind of stupid to me. Doesn't that mean that they will
essentially be paying higher final value fees? Of course I guess it don't really
matter, junk is junk, no matter if you get it for a 10% discount or not.
June 20, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
Re: NHM
orthopteran, I've never seen "NHM" used in the U.S. to described stamps -
it's always "MNH" in that order.
I quote Scott's U.S. catalog: "Never Hinged (NH; **): A never-hinged stamp
will have full original gum that will have no hinge mark or disturbance. The
presence of an expertizer's mark does not disqualify a stamp from this
designation".
I believe that even a stamp issued without gum cannot be described as "NH" -
it's required to be described as "MNG", although it's usually followed with "(as
issued)".
Jim
June 20, 2003 Brian R(briguy)
new scam?
Has anyone else noticed that Riny 218 has added the following to all their
descriptions?
SALE! Starting June 4th through July 4th there will be a 10% discount off
all ebay lots offered by us to our customers.
I'm sure their customers will be thrilled, to find out that they've payed
only 90% too much, for misdescribed forgeries.
Yes I'm aware that that math doesn't make sense, just like the offer.
June 20, 2003 11.21 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
Paolo - CYE!! :O)
K.E.
June 20, 2003 Brian R
swastikas
I think the swastika was part of the cachet design of early US airmail
envelopes. Pretty much ended when a certain paperhanger adopted the symbol as
his own.
Here's an ebay auction for a advertising envelope from a US bank,my
guess is they're using a different logo nowdays
June 20, 2003 1855 BST Ed.B
iomoon:
Hi Jim,
just found some US mint which is good for postage. Have some other bit's and
pieces also. Which address are you at for the next ten days. North or South?
Ed
June 20, 2003 Dave P orthorpteran
Swastika
It is not just native Americans who used the Swastika. It has been used in many
religions for thousands of years and is found in both versions going back
to at least 1000BC. Oddly "Swastika" derives from the Indian name for the
symbol, in the UK is is associated with many Celtic artefacts, and is
particularly prevalent in Ireland. If you look around you can still find the
symbol in all sorts of places, even in some old synagogues, and I am told that
in the US it forms part of the decoration of the Capitol Building - but that may
be a myth!
June 20, 2003 Brian R
noip There is (or was) a town in Ontario, Canada, named swastika.
June 20, 2003 10.35 am Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
Beanie baby catalogues!
Iomoon
You are right about the Sakura Japan catalogue. At first I used it in
conjunction with Gibbons who give the different perforations of the earlier
issues, which Sakura doesn’t. I bought the JSDA about a year ago and they have
even more details about the shades of the earlier issues, Chrysanthemums etc.
But as you say, Sakura splits issues into definitives, specials, N Parks, New
year etc and it takes a bit of getting used to.
How many packets of beanie babies do you get through a day?
Dave Orthorpteran
It seems that seller is making up his own meanings for traditionally accepted
abbreviations. MNH must be in its original condition, and if that was with gum
MNH must have gum. But I do not know of anywhere the initials are actually
officially defined.
Colin
June 20, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Hi Mauro M.
Well, there's one already! I just announced I was going to sleep in a more
pompous way than usual :-)
Ciao,
Paolo
June 20, 2003 Chuck Harm <macalusoharm@sprintmail.com>
Labuan stamp
All,
I have a couple questions about this stamp ebay#2936097934 Labuan 8.
Is the barred killer cancel a postal cancel. I associate it with CTO for Labuan
and North Borneo.
Is the red "8" in the lower right significant?
And is it safe to do business with this dealer? I have notified him of
misidentification and gotten no response and no change in the auction.
Thanks.
June 20, 2003 nomad55
Prometheus.....very pleasing visually.
Richard B....Yes the arms point the opposite way. I have indian beadwork with
the swastika incorporated into the design. The German version was always inside
a circle, and rotated 45 degrees.
June 20, 2003 Prometheus
MY Catch of the Day
Decided to go to the rainy outdoor Flea Market this morning
Found this little
POSTAL
Love the Cancel
Neat Huh??
June 20, 2003 Dave P (orthorpteran)
NHM
With respect to stamps I have always understood that "mint" means condition as
issued, NHM if not hinged, MM if previously mounted, a stamp without gum (except
for the very few issued that way) can never be mint, it is unused - or am I
being old-fashioned about this?
June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
nomad - Wow, so many things I didn't know. But isn't the Nazi version of the
Swastika suppose to be a mirror image of the American Indian version, which
would have the arms of the design pointing in a CCW direction? This is what I've
heard, but may have been a total fabrication.
June 20, 2003 9:41:53 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
And the fleet sails in!
David, you don't think we'd let all those sailors loose on the US without
letting them blow off steam in some unimportant place in the world first, do
you? :-)
June 20, 2003 nomad55
Richard B....it could be. There was a town named Swastika (Kentucky??) and this
might be a stamp soaked off a registered cover postmarked there. In the late
20's and early 30's, many small towns used fancy pictorial cancels on registered
mail for collectors. The swastika emblem predates nazi Germany, and was an
American Indian good luck symbol.
June 20, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Is
THIS a U.S. cancel??
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
How dare you attack beanie baby sellers!!
Some of my best friends sell beanie babies!!
:-Þ
June 20, 2003 08:41 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
MNH No Gum
Michael You and I know what MNH means. A seller of beanie babies or other
collectibles may not know. After all, MNH has no direct reference to actual gum
in the words. THe seller never said OG. Therefore, you are technically and
legally correct, but a stubborn and uninformed seller may not want to accept the
industry standards. Good luck in your battle, as it looks like it will be a
battle. You are correct about the facts, let's hope the sellers can be more
educated and ethical.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 20, 2003 08.19 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Sveiki - Det ser ud som om jeg gik glip af alt de "sjove" - hvad gik det
ud på?
K.E.
June 20, 2003 Mark Bardell
http://www.philatelicnetwork.com
E-bay Fraud reply
Michael.
If a stamp has no gum it should be described as such ( Mint NG or MNG ). To me
and probably 99% of the people that read this board, Mint NH means that it has
full gum, untouched by any hinges. I would try and get the guy to refund you
fully ( he should do with just a single stamp ). If he won't do that then yes, I
would NEG him ( but not before you have exhausted the return avenue ). I don't
think you'll have any recourse through Citibank as you still have the stamp.
However, if you return it to him with Delivery Confirmation ( and insure it ) to
prove he receives it, regardless of whether he has agreed to a return, then you
may well be able to do a refund through the card. If you paid by Paypal you MUST
file with them first, even though they will not be able to do anything.
Hope this helps.
Mark.
June 20, 2003 sveiki!
knuden Hej! {:o) jeg tror ikke min dobbeltgænger kan tale dansk, så det
sprog svarer jeg dig på lige nu. *hehe*
Der var Gud hjælpe mig en spasser, som skrev åndssvage ting her på chatten med
mit navn. Velkommen tilbage til dig, Knud-Erik! {:o)
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Michael
Either your seller has been NARU'd or changed their ID.
June 20, 2003 07.53 Knud-Erik (knuden)
Sveiki -Daws Paul. :O) I hope all is well.
K.E.
June 20, 2003 sveiki!
Good Morning/Day/Evening/Afternoon!
Must admit that I've got more than one eBay chat ID. *hehe* {:o)
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Thanks Paul.
Michael
If a stamp has no gum, there is no way to tell if it was never hinged.
Therefore seller is engaging in false advertizing.
Stamp, at best, is mint hinged.
Give him a neg.
June 20, 2003 7:30 michael plotnick <mipcitr@aol.com>
e-bay fraud
I purchased a #112 listed as MINT/NH for $95 (total 102.50) with shipping and
insurance. The stamp had NO GUM AT ALL. The seller claimed he didn't describe
the gum and it was my fault; i thought he was simply misinformed and e-mailed
back(initially) a series of educational statements while also requesting return.
He first asked what its value was, then asked to make deals the n became
belligerant when i clearly stated i would leave neg. feedback if he didn't
accept responsibility. he is a power seller and e-bay seems not to care at all.
The seller is "stunningstamps12345". I am pusuing the problem via citibank
mastercard. paypal does not seem to care at all. I have his address and other
info. please advise.
Thanks, michael plotnick MIPCITR@aol.com
June 20, 2003 7.22am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
June and July
I had a quick look through my holdings of French colonial covers and found that
June was always "Juin" and July was "Juil" except for one cover which had "Jul".
There was no "Jui". I have never seen a "Jui" in a French colonial postmark.
Paul
June 20, 2003 7:15 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
CSA Altered Plates
I to would like to thank John Kimbrough for his very informative posts on
the CSA altered plates. I hope he continues to add his comments to this board.
And to everyone that shares their knowledge with others via this forum, a very
sincere "Thank You".
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
juin, june, juillet, july
I agree!!
So what are the french abbreviations for June and July?
June 20, 2003 triangle and palindrome collector:
Maarten Willems
JUNE, JUIN or JULY
I'm afraid I have to disagree with io Jim (with pain in my heart) and
agree with David B but for a different reason: symmetry. Suppose it is
JUI 5. In that case with a number of 10 or higher it would need 5 places, for
example JUI23, and the cancellation needs to extend to the right and become
highly asymmetrical. With these kind of date cancellations that somehow seems
unlikely. Just my 1/2 eurocent of wisdom.
June 20, 2003 Richard Frajola
I just found an "Authenticity Disclaimer" notice on PAYPAL site
here. I think this is roughly the same as what ebay says. Just maybe paypal
will enforce it better. Sounds like after a few complaints thay might close a
seller's paypal account. I wonder ....
June 20, 2003 616 Prometheus <prometheus@yada-yada.com>
Bogus/fake/Scam Discussion tidbits
Frontpiece From Old Book
NOPHOTO
they used to worry about reproducing images
NIGERIAN EMAIL Type scam -related- the Olde 1877 "mystery Mine #1 Post Card "
So it seems no matter how the abilty to spread your selfish games changes the
Ones who do it have always been doing it
In all fields of Collecting/hobby
Nice Card
DEADWOODintheWildernessSD77
June 20, 2003 06.13 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
Howdy!
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
I have just spent the last days installing Win XP and are now trying to get
used to it! :O)
K.E.
June 20, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Colin & Dave
Spent a large part of yesterday reading through the Sakura catalog.
Its truly amazing how much stuff Scott leaves out.
The color pictures in Sakura make it easier to understand than the JSDA catalog
though now I think I can figure out how the Japanese classify their stamps, the
use of the latter should be much easier.
June 20, 2003 Jim Lawler
Indypex
Hopefully this is easier for you to read and the link shows up
INDYPEX
2003
is coming. :8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. Would any of you want to get
together for lunch on Friday? I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap)
places within walking distance.
Jim L.
June 20, 2003 Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Indypex
INDYPEX
2003
is coming. :8^)
June 27, 28 & 29 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)
Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
I'll be there Friday and Saturday this year. Would any of you want to get
together for lunch on Friday? I know some good (and very reasonable to cheap)
places within walking distance.
Jim L.
June 20, 2003 Icecone Viking <you_know_who@upnorth.com>
Bill Weiss That's exactly the reason why I've got multiple eBay ID's - as
my mother, brothers, aunts that live abroad and my off-shore businesses has.
That's when Mailboxes Etc. come in handy.
Once, I won this eBay auction of a pompous ass seller. It's incredible how much
BS a seller is able to put in writing during an e-mail correspondence. Essence
of the correspondence was: Seller is always right, buyer is a jackass. Seller
overdid everything promised during the BS correspondence just to "please" me. My
reaction was to see if seller really renders all of these services to any buyer.
Used an overseas ID to check it out. What a disappointment! Not even right
change to a cash transaction - no change in fact. So much for auction
description/e-mail correspondence BS.
Since then I have not bothered to read all of the post mortem crap sellers give
me. IMHO buyer is always right (it's sellers job to convince buyer he's right).
My advice to you: Block that seller from your searches and move on!
June 20, 2003 03:40 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a cover from the
Philippines to
Germany in 1933. This one took 8 stamps and $1.14 in postage.
Bill W.,
One of the elements of eBay which we miss by being involved in a 'Stamps' chat
board is the passion and diligence of other collectors. When the 'Cafe' was the
only board, it was interesting to see the knowledge and passion of the other
collectors. Does anyone here pursue vaseline glass?
David B.,
Thanks for the URL. I'll see if it leads me anywhere regarding the Malta cover.
There might be some way to learn more concerning the cover.
June 20, 2003 David Benson
and more of them,
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/2003/06/20/1055828478410.html
David Benson
June 20, 2003 David Benson
Help, we've been invaded
If at 1st. you don't succeed, give up,
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/20/1055828472073.html
David Benson
June 20, 2003 David Benson
Help,
we\'ve been invaded
David Benson
June 19, 2003 ?
...
June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Bill W - Your concern about possible sellers monitoring these boards
seems logical and I wouldn't doubt it happens. There may even be troublemakers
lurking who would be willing to "inform" sellers of what is being talked about.
June 19, 2003 anne
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of Y palindromes (oops--mean
chromosomes--these
aren't Ys but they'll have to do), lots for rodents, and TGIF tomorrow. Anne
June 19, 2003 Bill Weiss
Rebacked?
To Ferd W., no I do not believe this is rebacked. It is, in my opinion, a left
pane-divider copy with a natural straightedge. It might even be the lower left
corner copy from the sheet (Position 90) but that's difficult to tell. It
certainly does not meet the definition of a "Jumbo" by usual standards. What it
is, is a perf shift, and for that, it's a nice example, especially being a
position piece, but I don't think it's worth more than the current price - maybe
another $10. or so, but that's all. To bed for me.
June 19, 2003 David Benson
Jim, it came from here,
http://www.harmers.com/cat%20archive/W4687/ar46877.htm
I presumed it had originated in North Afica, either Algeria, Tunisia or Libya.
The covers must have had a return address of Tripoli on the flap. Tripoli had a
Turkish (seldom used), French and Italian PO's. I doubt they had any PO markings
on the reverse or Harmers would have described them.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss
SUGARMOMMA
I want to thank all of the members of the two chat boards who responded to my
question about this seller, who from all accounts is a good and decent fellow.
For reasaons unknown to me, he recently blocked me from bidding on his ebay
lots. I bought ONE cover from him a few weeks ago for $5.99, and other than
that, I do not believe I have ever had any other contact with him. I have sent
him 3 emails asking him why he is blocking me, and he has not answered any of
them.
I'm sure there are those of you, particularly sellers, who would argue anyone's
right to block a bidder, but I would argue strongly, that without JUST CAUSE
no-one should be able to block someone from bidding. I have no problem if there
is a legitimate reason, or even ANY reason, even if arbitrary, but I have a big
problem with it when the seller refuses to acknowledge his reason(s) for his
action.
My strong feelings abouit this trascend just the minor inconvenience of the
blocking action. It's a hell of a way to treat your fellow human being, and the
least you can do is step up to the plate and state your reason, not hide behind
ebay's policy allowing you free reign to block anyone you please. It's kind of
like a little kid who can't get his way, so he slaps his buddy in the mouth and
then runs off before the buddy can defend himself.
I'll certainly live without Sugarmomma's cheap/faulty covers, and apparently he
has no problem living with his undefended actions. End of story here, but I'm
seriously considering filing a formal complaint against him with APS for
"conduct unbecoming a member" only because I know damn well they will ask him to
state his reason(s) for his action and then perhaps the truth might come out.
The other concern I have here is whether there are sellers out there who somehow
gain access to these chatrooms and then sit back quietly and read what we talk
about, then decide to block folks who they can see would be difficult to fool,
before they have a chance to hurt them financially through justified returns,
etc. Just a thought, but it seems awfully strange that I would get blocked by
someone who I do not know for no apparent reason. Done for the night.
June 19, 2003 20:20 FERD W.
REBACKED ??
I am a lurker unable to "link". Ebay # 2935355521 appears to me to have a
rebacked left margin ! Would appreciate any opinion of better students!! Thanks,
FW
June 19, 2003 8:11PM Bill Weiss
Longaberger Basket
My best guess is that these damn baskets are just so popular it doesn't matter
what catagory they try to sell them in! Seriously, lots of folks go nuts for
these things, including my Mrs. If you would have told me five years ago that I
would tour a Longaberger Basket store, I would have told you you were crazy, but
I did just that a few months ago. I have no love for them, but conversely, the
Mrs has no love for these little pieces of paper we so adore.
June 19, 2003 8:12pm PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com>
http://www.csastamps.com
Prometheous and all the others -- Thank you very much for your kind
words. I know that I sometimes tend toward verbosity when I am talking about my
favorite subject, Confederate Philately. I will confine future posts to specific
topics under discussion or answers to specific questions.
Brain R -- I am glad to hear that my little postings have spurred your
interest in Confederate collecting. I do remember seeing the item to which you
refer, but it has been some time ago. I am not absolutely certain, but I believe
that it was taken indirectly from the Columbus Block as were so many similar
items of years past. By "taken indirectly" I mean using a photographic
reproduction of the impressions rather than taking a printing directly from the
plate itself. The technique was undoubtedly somewhat cumbersome and of variable
quality, but they were doing such things well before home computers. I do know
Kevin Baker as he is the current Secrectary of the Confederate Stamp Alliance.
John L. Kimbrough
June 19, 2003 Now Chris
manos-the-hands-of-fate.com
Evening all.
Still working on Colombia.
After that still a mess of albums to do inventory on.
Chris - remember Carcossa
June 19, 2003 20:04 Jim Watson
David B.,
That information on Tripoli de Barbarie mail passing through Malta is
intriguing. I'll try to search the net for the info. If you have the link, I'd
appreciate it. TIA.
Coverwiz
I'm sure you're right about the power of search. It's amazing the effort some
people apply in ferreting out misplaced and misspelled items.
June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Anyone familiar with
THIS?
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
John Kimbrough
Fascinating little piece of history.
Much appreciate your time and effort in presenting it.
June 19, 2003 06:18 PM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
John
I really enjoy those kind of posts. Wish I had the time to do some about Indiana
Precancels.
Jim L.
June 19, 2003 coverwiz
Hamper lot in Postal History
The power of search -- brand name....
June 19, 2003 Brian R
altered plates
Fascinating! I never knew the full scope of the story around those plates. I've
always assumed the impressions on the sheets of twenty five were comming from
and origional section of the plate. Only now, do I know, that they are duplicate
impressions of the same position. Proof positive, that people have been doing
this sort of thing, long before the clown in Florida discovered computers, color
copiers, and a stock of A4 paper!
I'm interestesed enough, I may get a couple of the Dietz 2c, for reference,
even if it violates my "no fakes" personal vow. I hope it doesn't lead to a full
blown case of CSA fakes/reprints/bogus issues collecting madness. Mr. Kimbrough,
I thinkyou should be the one to explain to Kevin Baker what happened if I
start bidding against him. LOL
Seriously, I thank you, for your posts. They've been quite informative for
me, and I suspect several others here, who have some CSA interest. Right now I'm
going to find an old glassine, that I have, with some of the 10c blocks in it,
for a closer look. I assume that if from the constructed section they will
exibit a sameness in plate flaws, a difference, if they came from one of the
blocks of nine. Uh-oh...I think I'm slipping already.
Brian
P.S. I sometimes see a rather humorous block of 9, printed in the 30's, by a
philatelic group, to resemble a mock Farly souvenir sheet. Some of the wording
is to the effect of "the post office department of the deficit" Did those images
origionate from a section of the altered plate? I've always been tempted to get
one of those just for the shtick value alone.
June 19, 2003 17:43 Jim Watson
Noip
Can anyone explain why this
target=blank>one is doing so well in Stamps:Other World:Postal History?
John K.,
Thanks for the informative posts.
June 19, 2003 David Benson
I found this on the web, from an old Harmers London 2000 catalogue,
Libya, Italian Post Offices. 1880 envelope to Livorno franked Italy 1879 20c.,
cancelled Malta "A25" duplex in transit, arrival datestamp on reverse, fine.
Also envelope to Paris franked France Sage 15c. cancelled Malta "A25" barred
oval in transit, both originating from Tripoli de Barbarie estimated £250
I don't know the realisation but the French Sage cover is most probably from a
similar origin.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Paolo B:
Re: "Annuntio vobis magnum gaudium"
My question is: Habemus Papam?
Ciao!
Mauro
June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
June 15 letter
Thank you both Jims and David It took be several visits but it finally
became clear that I was doing a bit of mental addition. Indeed I was making the
left leg of the ‘N’ from the right upstroke of the ‘U’ and then making something
that may or may not be there into the connecting stroke of the ‘N’. I had just
concluded that the ‘1' and ‘5' were misaligned when David indicated this. It was
nice to get confirmation. It was nice to see someone’s idea of the value of
cover. I did notice that he had not found anyone who agreed enough with him to
take it off his hands.
June 19, 2003 Prometheus
John L. Kimbrough = Thanks
Please post any Info as detailed as your previous posts
as a person Fairly new to Stamp Collecting and the owner of a couple of CSA
stamps, 2 covers and a set of the Facsimiles .
I think your info is fantastic The Knowledge available here on this Board
astouds me every day.
June 19, 2003 16:32:31 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
Hmm, yet the purple is the most expensive one... If it's genuine, that
might make it almost worth keeping the lot. I'd have two different reference
fakes and the toughest one to find genuine covered.
June 19, 2003 Prometheus
John Gordon = Thanks
Thanks for the valuation listing Now Does anyone know whats in the book
Knowledge wise. ??
June 19, 2003 David Benson
Bill, had to rush my post as I was leaving to take my daughter to school, of
course I meant the 2 on right are bad (Red and Green), the Purple looks OK.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 4:15pm PT John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com>
http://www.csastamps.com
CSA 10c Altered Plate
For Brian R and anyone else who might be interested, here is the story
of the CSA 10c Altered Plate.
Last night I posted the outline story of the CSA 2c Altered Plate. In
response to several requests, I will focus today on the 10c Altered Plate as the
story of this plate is far different and much more complex.
It was at first universally accepted that the alterations for the 10c Altered
Plate were performed by Archer & Daly in Richmond, Va. It was not until the
discovery intact of the 2c Altered Plate by August Dietz in 1926 that the full
story of these plates became known, and it was proven that both the altered
plates were constructed by De La Rue in London.
The 10c Altered Plate was shipped from London to the Confederacy through the
blockade arriving in Richmond probably sometime in early 1863. It is not
recorded exactly when the 10c Altered Plate reached Richmond, but we do know
that the construction of both plates was completed by November 1862. But the 10c
Altered Plate was never used by the CSA. There is no evidence that the
CSA ever printed any stamps from this plate. August Dietz did state in
1929 that he had a proof sheet of 100 from the 10c Altered Plate. It is unclear
if this proof sheet was taken in London or in Richmond but he implied that it
was taken in Richmond. In any case, the proof sheet listed by Dietz in 1929 has
disappeared. As to why the plate was never used, we can only speculate that the
CSA Postmaster General, John H. Reagan, shelved the plate because the CSA
engraved stamps were already in production by the Spring of 1863. PG Reagan was
committed to the use of engraved stamps and very probably did not want to print
and release any further stamps that were not engraved. The 10c Altered Plate is
a typograph plate and is not engraved.
With the Fall of Richmond in early April 1865, the 10c Altered Plate was
looted by Union soldiers and cut into sections. The story is told that a
Hospital Steward named Richard Glenn of the 95th Ohio Regt came into possession
of the plate. It is not clear if Glenn had the entire plate or only one section
of the plate as the full original plate was 400 subjects divided into 4 panes of
100. In any case, Glenn apparently cut up one Pane of 100 into two
Blocks of 9, and a Block of 70. The remaining 12 stamps from the pane were
either left as a block or further cut into smaller blocks or singles and have
been lost.
One Block of 9 found its way to Glenn’s sister, a Mrs. Anthony, in Baltimore,
Md. This block has come to be known as the “Baltimore” Block. This particular
block has been used for some private printings in the past, but not many. I do
not know where the block is today but can only assume that it still exits and
remains in private hands.
The second Block of 9 is very well known and is designated the “Columbus”
Block as it currently resides at the Ohio State Museum in Columbus, Ohio. The
block has been used numerous times for private printings and souvenir sheets
often associated through the years with various philatelic events in the area. I
have not as yet been to Columbus, but I am told that the printing block is on
display for all to see.
The large Block of 70 first came to light in 1888 when a sheet in blue
printed from this block surfaced with an advertisement for an Atlanta bookseller
on the back. Since then it has been known as the “Atlanta” Block. This block has
been used numerous times for either direct or indirect private printings. One of
the more famous is the Diamont Printing in 1896 when one W. H. Diamont ran off
500 sheets from this block in red, blue, and green. The initial impressions for
the construction of the notorious New York Counterfeit printing plate were taken
from the Atlanta Block. (As an aside, the New York Counterfeit has been
attributed to Scott and it is widely believed that Scott was behind this 19th
Century Scheme to defraud collectors into buying what they thought were genuine
CSA stamps. However, in all fairness there is no concrete evidence to either
confirm or refute Scott's participation in this sorry episode.) Again, I do not
know where the Atlanta Printing Block is today but can only assume that it still
exists in private hands.
A contrived Block of 25 was constructed from a single impression from the
original plate. So any Sheetlets of 25 of the 10c Altered Plate stamp that are
seen come from this contrived printing block.
Very recently, Leonard Hartmann of Louisville, Ky with some astounding
philatelic detective work which he published in the journal of the US Philatelic
Classics Society in 2001 was able to track down two additional large segments
(both full panes of 100) from the original 10c Altered Plate. Both are in
Chicago -- one with the Chicago Historical Society and the other owned by a
private printing firm. Very few impressions were made from these two newly
discovered segments of the original plate, and according to Mr. Hartmann none of
the impressions are in collector's hands. That still leaves one segment (a Pane
of 100) from the original plate that is unaccounted for and may yet one day be
discovered.
That again in a nutshell is the story of the CSA 10c Altered Plate. There are
numerous examples of the 10c altered stamp in a myriad of colors in existence
related to the Columbus Block, the Atlanta Block, and the contrived Block of 25.
Some of these printings are very well done, others are very crude. There are
also numerous reproductions of the 10c Altered Plate as well. All of these
examples today only really have a token value as a reference item. Since these
printing segments are still in existence and in private hands, it is
theoretically possible that more printings can be done at any time. Many times
you will see these 10c and 2c altered stamps listed as Trial Colors, Proofs,
Essays, Unissued CSA Stamps etc. That is pure poppycock as they are nothing of
the sort. And such terms are very misleading. But it is probably done out of
ignorance in not knowing the history of the items. My own feeling is that they
are very simply best termed "Private Printings" and left at that.
This story also begs the question of what happened to the original plate that
Archer & Daly used to print the 5c Blue Richmond Print (CSA #7) and the 1c
Yellow-Orange (CSA #14) plate shipped by De La Rue to the CSA. The answer is
that there is no record of the fate of these two plates. Most likely they were
melted down after the war in order to reclaim the metal.
Columbus Block in
Black 10c Altered Plate.
Cropped Block
in black of the 2c Altered Plate from a full sheet of 100 from the 1926 Dietz
Printing
Pair in Emerald Green
of the 2c Altered Plate from the 1926 Dietz Printing
Again a very long post. But I hope that the board readers have found it to be
of value.
John L. Kimbrough
June 19, 2003 16:12:10 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
David, I did a little quick
image manipulation [5K] and am in complete agreement with your assessment.
I've left an email to the seller...
June 19, 2003 dbenson
Bll, I am 97 1/2 % sure the 2 on the left are fake, and 99% sure the one on the
right is OK. Extremely difficult stamps to verify. If Chris Ceremuga turns up he
may have a better idea.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 15:51:40 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
YAYQ (Yet Another Yugoslavia Question)
These [50K] are examples of some of the overprints added to Bosnia &
Herzegovina printed matter stamps for use as regular postage stamps by the new
kingdom of S.H.S. in 1920. They are reasonably tough to get, so I tend to look
at them closely. The middle stamp has a distinctly different shape to the '2'
than the outer two. It also looks as if the leftmost one has the '2' slightly
taller than the '2' on the rightmost one. Since the right side is cheap, and the
other two expensive, I thought I'd ask if anyone know whether these are normal
variations, or if the two expensive ones are forgeries. I can't find any
references in my current library to tell me...
June 19, 2003 15.25 PDT John Gordon <johnr@castlemoyle.com>
http://www.marianstamps.com
Old book about stamps
prometheus
I just checked
Bookfinder for your book and it comes up ranging in price from US$13 to
US$49.95. If my link above doesn't take you to the listing of the book, just go
to bookfinder.com and search on Sigmund Rothschild. He appears to have written
several other stamp books.
John
June 19, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Annuntio vobis magnum gaudium that I'm outta here
:-Þ Paolo
June 19, 2003 1511 Prometheus
Old book about stamps ??? NOIP
Is any one Famaliar with the Book by Sigmund Rothschild , Hard Back printed in
1930 "Stories Postage Stamps Tell, what we can learn from them "
One of my trading partners has a copy and wants to trade for some postcards I
have. He has no scanner and limited English From what I gather it's by the
originator of the learning game Philo and full of pictures and examples
knowledge about stamps in 1930 .
Any comments would be thankfully recieved
He also wants to send me a like mint copy of scotts 1939 Catalog
The trade would be about 25 bucks from my end does this sound fair???
June 19, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia <bagaglia@wanadoo.nl>
Various
Knud-Erik
please, see your e-mail.
Paolo
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David
No one I know has ever condemned that seller for being cheap. :-Þ
Thanks for correction.
Good job I didn't mistakingly put it in Eddy 8.
June 19, 2003 David Benson
Jim, it is a normal duplex cancel, just the date slugs are slightly out of
alignment. Interesting cover (but way, way overpriced). Looks like he is aiming
for a Malta collector who is looking for unusual material and has deep pockets.
There was a special box at the Port to handle incoming mail from ships and these
received a boxed MB Malta marking, they are scarce and this one is most probably
from a ship and cancelled when it got to the GPO.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 02:39 David Yaakola Or stampalbum123
Is stamp with the zorich cancel worth anything different? Someone wants to buy
it from me. Just checking.
Here.
David
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
Jui is french for Juin, June.
But I'll defer to David.
However, there is an article entitled "the growth of the Malta Post office
1802-1886" implying something happened that year.
June 19, 2003 David Benson
How do you make a Maltese Cross
All Maltese postmarks used English spellings not French abbreviations. it is
definitely June 15.
David Benson
June 19, 2003 14:20 Jim Watson
Io,
Nice find! If it's JUI as in French for July, how come the London Receiver is JU
21 and not JY 21?
June 19, 2003 14:15 Jim Watson
Io,
Here
is a cover which has both the English (JY) and the French Version (JUIL) of July
when used in postmarks. I checked a number of cover jpgs and JY was consistently
used for July on British Empire covers and JUIL was used on French covers.
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
Looking
at the original, I'm pretty sure it's Jui 5.
June 19, 2003 12:56 Bob in WA
precognition
Ha, got ‘im by a
NICKEL!
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Jimbo
Maybe the datestamp is Jui 5!!
I've forgotten french month abbreviations.
June 19, 2003 12:50 Bob in WA
Rat lot
Aside from the fact that the sum of the feedbacks for the three bids is zero, I
see 2000 stamps for $50,000, which is $25 a stamp! I only looked at the
beginning of the first pic as it started to load, and saw kiloware! Am I correct
in assuming some more substantial stamps are depicted somewhere? Almost looks
like pranksters having fun on eBay, the whole thing is so surreal.
June 19, 2003 the one and only triangle- Maarten Willems
Y-chromosome palindromes
David D - Thanks for the Y-chromosome story related to palindromes.
Haven't heard it before. Certainly interesting from a scientific point of view,
not sure about the philatelic opportunities. But you'll never know...........
June 19, 2003 12:32 Jim Watson
David D.,
Here
is the least compressed version I have. It looks like JU 15 to me but it
certainly won't be the first time I've been wrong (and not likely, the last!).
One might get a JU 13 out of it. The CDS on the back of the cover has to share
the left riser on the N with the right riser on the U to make it JUN 5. I think
the confusion is just a paper discoloration or dirt.
June 19, 2003 12.07 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr) <thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_stamps
A Rat and a Report?
Bill Claghorn
So what is this “Report” button for? Are you trying to start a trend, or is
it an invitation? What would the eBay fees be for that huge lot from Turkey, and
surely the listing fees would not be refunded if the lot was ended early, would
they?
Colin
June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
a rat
Bill, Greg - Come on guys, you're too suspicious. I'm sure it's all on
the up'n up.
June 19, 2003 Brian R
you say catalogue, I say catalog
Bill C. Your post makes perfect sense to me. Since I've started
wandering, in the ebay european listings, I've discovered a personal demand for
Michel.
June 19, 2003 10:47 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
A rat
Greg Maybe the high bidder will retract at the last minute and the seller
will be stuck with high listing and final value fees.
June 19, 2003 10:45 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
A rat
Greg You know very well that eBay is based on trust in the community and
that everyone is essentially honest! That is why someome from Turkey is selling
a blind collection in Australian Dollars and the low bidder has (0) feedback and
is from Turkey too. We all know that shilling is illegal in Turkey too.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 19, 2003 10.31 Greg Ioannou
A rat
Hmmm! I smell a
RAT!
June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
Bob, hiya! - Glad you could use them. Thanks also to you for the neat
commemoratives.
June 19, 2003 Bob Gioia <Crazystampbob@aol.com>
SPAIN: Glad I found you here, just wanted to thank you for those Barcelona
Issues.
June 19, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
I can't believe people actually bid on
THIS JUNK! What's amazing is that last week, 7 out of 7 items (Spanish "cinderellas")
eneded without bids. He relists them and VOILA!, 4 out of 7 now have bids. I
can't believe in that span of time 7 clueless people just happen to jump on
board, or even that 1 clueless person with $$ to burn finds them. If his
feedback wasn't private, and his bidders unlisted, me thinks you'd find some
shenanigans going on. No other way to explain the 100% positive unless a related
id is padding his feedback record.
June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
Back to the June 15 cover
First, thank you to both Jims for your answers. I had thought of the Malta
postmark as a transfer point to a British vessel. But in which case the Maltese
postal officials had some problem with keeping their cancellers up-to-date or
Jim Watson seems to have made a mistake in the June 15 posting date. The Malta
date is clearly "June 5". I can not make out the dates on the French stamps. Do
they settle the problem?
June 19, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
Maarten, start your search for a y chomosome on
stamps
Have you seen the announcement that the Y chomosome is made up of many
palindromes? It was thought that the Y chomosome was mainly filled with junk
genes as they had no backup. It has been found that they have their own built in
backup. The directions are written in, then repeated only backward. One gene is
made up of over 30 million letters (that is in one direction).
Does that mean that males have a genetic liking for palindromes?
June 19, 2003 08:58 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Catalogs
IOmoon I just got the newsletter from the Western Philatelic Library.
They had an article where there is a demand for Scott Catalogs from
European stamp clubs (deciphering ebay listings of course). THey did an exchange
where a member brought Scott catalogs to Europe and brought back European books.
Maybe, when BillSey or someone goes to Europe they could do an exchange.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark <jlwstark6@aol.com>
David
Yes, I found it yesterday evening, my wife has a habit of placing things where I
can't find them.
Unfortunately it only got the "vo" of volcano but the picture side established
the provenance.
If anyone has a Michel South America (not too old, ie. post - 1990) they want to
let go of reasonably cheaply, email me.
June 19, 2003 David D'
Jim W-S,
did my postcard from Vulcano ever make it to you? Did it receive a Vulcano
postmark?
June 19, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Paul
Nice pictures.
John
Interesting post, stamp postal history, as opposed to cover postal history,
doesn't get much coverage.
June 19, 2003 04:46 AM Jim Lawler <jlawler@comteck.com>
Greetings
and
an
Indiana
"Good
Morning"
to
you
all
Jim L.
June 19, 2003 04:06 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item are two more cards from
Germany flown
during the Air Mail Post Card Week in 1912.
June 19, 2003 sveiki!
See you all later, wont be on-line for at least 12 hours. {:o)
June 19, 2003 12.51am Paul Barsdell <paul.b@webone.com.au>
Sugarmomma
Bill Weiss I bought two books from sugarmomma in February this year. They
were slow getting to Australia but this was Snail Mail's fault rather than the
seller's.
Paul
June 19, 2003 sveiki!
Dave Well, such adolescent behaviour is not going to scare me away. I'm
100% behind this project since I support and encourage any privately run
initiatives supporting our little community of stamps chat regulars. {:o)
June 19, 2003 sveiki! <philaweb@yahoo.dk>
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Back under my own nickname. {:o)
This new digital camera I've got is really a good investment. No waiting for
paper prints. No excessive costs for photos not worth the paper they're printed
on. Just click, click and upload.... {:o)
Here's the latest
photoshoot. That's how our local community "centre" looks like. It's actually a
shopping mall in connection to the local S-train station (suburban commuter
trains).
The "centre" was planned, initiated during the 1960's (the station was opened
1965) and was at that point a grandious plan of creating an open air shopping
mall. Actually, there are not many of those around due to our climate, weather.
June 19, 2003 23:16 Dave ("philatarium")
John:: Thanks very much for that great post. And a post is never too long
if it's about learning. Please feel welcome and please comment anytime.
Sveiki! & others:I understand your concern. And to everyone, let's face
it, this site requires some trust and maturity on the part of all participants.
It's a shame that some people see anything that operates on the honor system as
an opportunity to take advantage.
I've deliberately not deleted the frivolous posts, yet. That doesn't mean they
won't get deleted. However, I felt the most provocative thing I could do would
be to delete a scurrilous post close to the time that it was originally posted,
because the poster is likely seeking some kind of response. For the most part,
we have ignored these stealth posters, and they've gone away or at least receded
into the background. But I do have the ultimate ability to just make the posts
go away, and will use it if necessary. Let me say no more on this now, but,
believe, I do understand.
June 19, 2003 Brian R
Welcome!
Hello John Since we're admitting to lurking, I'll have to fess up to
frequently lurking through your website. I'm pleased to have this chance to say
thanks for what is obviously a labor of love. I'm sure you don't mind that when
people have specific questions I can't answer with a degree of accuracy(the
Dietz die question here is a good example), I frequently direct them to your
site.
I, for one, am quite interested in your post, as I now know the factual story
behind the 2c altered plate. I got some of the highlights right, but boy did I
screw up the dates, and prinicpals!
Anyhow, nice to see your post, and I hope they'll be more of them.
P.S. If you go back in the board archives a few days, a few, including
myself, had some interesting rants about the pathetic fakes of the CSA #10 often
found ebay. The links should be good for a few snickers.
Brian Reeves
June 18, 2003 22:24 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Fresno Society
Marius Here is the link to the
Fresno Philatelic
Society . They are very friendly and will be able to give your sister the
info you need. Who knows, maybe they will help her to be a stamp collector too.
Forgery
Identification Site
June 18, 2003 Richard Ballhagen (spain_1850)
sugarmomma
I too have purchased from them at least once that I know of. I can't recall
exactly what I bought, but I also can't remember having any problems either,
so...
June 18, 2003 9:00pm John L. Kimbrough <JLKCSA@aol.com>
http://www.csastamps.com
CSA 2c Altered Plate
I do from time to time check the various boards to see what is happening, but
I rarely post. I suppose you could call me simply a true lurker. But I noticed
some posts about the Confederate 2c Altered Plate and the fact that there
appears to be some confusion about the history of this plate. Perhaps I can
clear things up a bit as the story of this plate and the stamps that were
subsequently printed from this plate is truely fascinating but also extremely
involved.
Thomas De La Rue and Co of London, England in early 1862 produced for the CSA
government the 5c plates and the 1c plates (known today as Scott CSA #6 and CSA
#14)when the CSA government requested plates in new 10c and 2c denominations.
Time was of the essence, so De La Rue simply altered the value tablets of these
two stamps and constructed new plates in the requested new denominations. The
alteration was most likely done on an intermediate die which was then used to
construct the new plates. The two new altered plates were finshed and ready by
NOV 1862. The 10c Altered Plate was shipped to the Confedeacy but was never
used. For the purpose of this posting I will only concentrate on the 2c Altered
Plate and can post the story of the 10c altered plate later if anyone is
interested. The 2c Altered Plate, however, never made it to Richmond and simply
disappeared. No one really knows exactly what happened to it for all those
intervening years until it was discovered entirely intact by August Dietz in
Louisiana in 1926. Dietz surmised from his investigation that the plate instead
of going through the blockade to Richmond was most likely taken off the ship
somewhere at an intermediate point (most likely the Bahamas) and then somwhow
made its way to Louisiana where it was ultimately found. Dietz managed to secure
the plate at that time and immediately printed from the plate approximately 500
full sheets (4 panes of 100 per sheet) in a deep
emerald green color on a cream vellum paper. There is also a much smaller
printing in black with an almost prooflike impression also done by Dietz at
about the same time. The Emerald Green 2c Dietz Private Printings as they are so
designated today are very
common. They can easily be found today as singles, blocks, gutter blocks and
even full panes. So far as we know, these 1926 Dietz printings were the first
stamps ever printed from the 2c Altered Plate. They really have only a small
token retail value of about $2.00 per stamp at the present time. Dietz did
another printing from the plate in 1955 in conjuction with the APS 1955
StampShow held that year in Norfolk, Va. The 1955 printings are in green, brown
and orange. The green from the 1955 printing is distinctly different and of a
much lower quality than the 1926 printing. Stamps from the 1955 printing are
also very common.
Dietz retained ownership of the plate until his death in 1963. At that time, the
plate passed from the Dietz estate to William G. Bogg, a noted Confederate
collector and dealer and one of the publishers of the 1986 Dietz Catalog. It was
Bill Bogg who had the plate set into a coffee table. Bill Bogg died in 1987. At
his death, it passed from his estate into the hands of the current owner. I know
the current owner of the plate and confirmed these details with him only fairly
recently. The owner is a collector and has since removed the plate from the
coffee table setting and it is mounted in his home as a hanging display even
though the plate weighs approximately 90 pounds. The plate also currently has a
crack in it. It is unlikely that it will ever be used again to print any further
stamps at least not as long as the current owner retains possession.
That is a rather thumbnail sketch of the history of the 2c Altered Plate. I
know the post is long, but I thought some of the board readers might like to
know the story.
I do not often post on chat boards and this is my first posting here, but this
is such a good board that I will lurk from time to time and would be most happy
to answer any questions that may arise about Confederate Philately.
John L. Kimbrough
June 18, 2003 Marius
http://www.boomspeed.com/stampmad/main_page.htm
Does anyone know of any dealers in the Frezno area. My sister and her family
have moved there for 2 years and I have drummed her up on what to look for in
regards to my collecting area.
June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
Dietz Catalog
Bill...Thanks, I'll order it from Jim. I've bought from him in the past.
I just checked his latest catalog and he has the 1986 for $95.00. I may check
the library, and make sure I'm serious about this first! ;-) Ken
June 18, 2003 8:30PM Bill Weiss
Dietz Catalog
KEN;
The newest Dietz catalog was published in 1986 and it does have a 14-page
section titled "Fakes and Counterfeits". I don't think the 1959 Dietz had such a
section but I may be wrong. The 1986 version should be available from any good
literature dealer - I highly recommend Jim Lee in Illinois, but Bansner and
Hartmann should also be able to help too.
June 18, 2003 anne
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of volcanic images, Confederate
philately, and a sunny day tomorrow (here in NJ I know that's only a dream) Anne
June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
CSA Facsimiles
Brian R...No problem, I knew the posts were for me. Thanks again. I think
I may try my hand at putting together a small collection of those, and seeing
how much I can learn in the process. There seem to be a lot of resources,
including Kevin's site. And it looks like something I can, at least initially,
afford. I always liked that period in American history so this would be fun as
well. To get me started, I picked up
this lot, since it appears to have more than just the Springfields.
Would you mind a couple more questions. I see Phil Bansner has a Dietz catalog
up on eBay, but it's dated 1959. Is there a newer version? And do any of the
versions discuss forgeries / facsimiles? I'm not really interested in the
prices, so if the 1959 version contains the same basic info, I may try and pick
that up. Thanks again for all the help. Ken
June 18, 2003 20:06 Dave ("philatarium")
<dfrick@pacificanalytics.com>
Just another drive-by post to make sure everything is working here. I saw a
message about someone not being able to bring up the board for a little while,
and I had the same problem at that time, although it was a momentary problem. I
also heard in an email from someone that a post they made took a while to show
up. Has anyone else had problems recently?
On a slightly different note, what Bill Seymour referred to below was a
suggestion he had made that a couple of you proved to be correct. Bill suggested
that I insert some code at the beginning of each post that closes the bold , in
case it's still open from the post ahead of it. I also did the same thing with
the link tag . Today, we had proof that both worked, so congratulations, Bill!
Great idea! (And I'll also take care of the italic and underline, too!)
It's been a much busier week than I was expecting, so I'll finish up on some of
the other moderating duties a bit later. And I still owe a couple of you email
replies.
Post on!
June 18, 2003 5:20 pm Bob in WA
Claghorn -- I've bought a few covers from Larry Mueller over the years,
on eBay and at bourses. Nice covers and prices; I've been quite pleased. He
seems a bit gruff in person. I'm never in a hurry and pay no attention to
delivery times, (unless it's getting close to the 90-day deadline to post
feedback :-) I think he had something to do with a big bruhaha at some Portland
auction house, either Heinrich or McBride, some years back. I don't know any
details, but know who to ask.
June 18, 2003 Richard Frajola
Brian A complete sheet of the "NY fakes" of CSA 5c can be seen
here. It is
believed that they were produced by JW Scott.
June 18, 2003 Brian R
KEN MICHAELIS
KEN My bad! My prior two posts (about the Dietz stamps) were ment for
you.
Sorry, Prometheus.
June 18, 2003 16:20:17 PDT Bill Seymour <billsey@dsl-only.net>
http://www.seymourfamily.com
Hey Dave! It worked. :-) [See Richard Matta post below] Now add the
italics and underline, just in case...
June 18, 2003 David Benson
Prometheus, presumably posted on board a British ship and cancelled at the
Naples Port PO., it is a Paquebot item without the usual handstamp.
David Benson
June 18, 2003 Brian R
BTW--prometheus--The part about "washed up on the shore" sounds like pure
fantasy to me. The story I've heard, was the plate was found long after the war,
in a dusty warehouse, somewhere. Certainly, more plusable than a gift from the
sea.
Perhaps someone else here knows more details. Either way, the history
involving the altered plates, sure is interesting though!
June 18, 2003 Prometheus
Napoli Cancel = DBenson + Paolo
Sorry posted that scan as I was leaving and didn't see that I failed to insert
other scan of whole card My questions were raised By the Place it was going to
USA So the question is Is it unusual for a Postcard Franked with a GB 1 penny
Mailed from Porto Napoli to USA Boston reciver on Picture of Napoli.
Scan Of Card
HERECARD
My Bad sorry
June 18, 2003 Brian R
Dietz die proof
Prometheus Your Dietz die stamp is know as one of the "altered plate"
printings. When the war ended the plates for the CSA #6-7 and the unissued #14(1
cent calhoun) were found with the denominations changed to 10c and 2c
respectively. Apparently, this was in anticipation of a rate change. The
collaspe of the confederate armies on the battlefield, occured before any of the
new stamps/rates occured. No actual stamps were ever printed by the CSA from
them. At some time, the 2c Calhoun plate came into the possesion of August
Dietz. In the late twenties he produced those stamps in the green shade for sale
to CSA buffs. The act was not looked on favorablely by many CSA collectors and
he stopped doing it. Lots of them were produced, but they still hold some value
for colectors. Supposedly, the 2c plate was converted to a coffee table in the
Dietz home!
The saga of the 10c plate is less admirable. It's been broken up into many
sections and is what produces the many, varied color, "10c trial color proofs"
you see all over ebay. Unfortunately, someone converted the denomination back,
on a section, to 5 cents, and turned out truckloads of fake CSA #6-7 issues
(known as the NY counterfits).
So that is the long version.
Your stamp is not an actual CSA issue, but was produced, by A. Dietz, from
the origional (unused) confederate plates.
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Good night!
Paolo
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill C
You forgot canals.
Sorry no lock gates close by.
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Jim
4. P.O. Box # of
Volcano Gallery (183)
Paolo
June 18, 2003 14:46 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
IO Because of the tie in with Bridges, Volcanoes and Triangles ?
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Jim
Three guessess from here:
1. volcanic thematic (Vulcan);
2. volcano country city (Morton);
3. Raton-Clayton volcano
(Clayton).
Paolo
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Three guesses as to why
this got photographed.
No prizes!!!
June 18, 2003 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
Sugarmomma
I have also purchased many lots from this seller. I also echo the "not the
fastest..." comment, but nothing bad enough to prevent me from buying again. Ken
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bob in WA
There is a sculpture of a test-tube baby on the March 1999 UK millenium issue,
if that counts.
June 18, 2003 2PM Dennis Robertson
SugarMomma
I recently purhcased
this
cheap cover from Mr. Muller with satisfactory results.
DWyomingMenace
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Bill
Bought several from sugarmomma, no problem.
June 18, 2003 Jim Meverden <meverden@att.net>
Sugarmomma
Bill - I have bought many (20+) cheap advertising covers from this seller and
never had any problems. Not the fastest, but not the slowest either. Hope that
helps.
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
sick by stamps (aka stamp killer???):
Is that supposed to have a meaning (maybe between the lines?)?
Smettila, per favore. Paolo
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Sugarmomma
I purchased two items from Lawrence Muller's eBay auctions (one on last January
and one on Nov-07-99). In my limited experience I did not encounter any
impediment.
Paolo
June 18, 2003 1:30PM Bill Weiss
SUGARMOMMA
Has any member of this board had any trouble with this seller? He sells
primarily cheap US covers. His real name is Lawrence Muller and he is based in
Oregon. Any info will be appreciated. I will wait a day or so to tell you what
happened to me after I see if any info from this board is forthcoming.
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Question on Usage NOIP
Prometheus
sorry, I think you already knew what Porto stood for, in that cancel. I see the
intent of your question, but I cannot make up the date cancel in that postmark
(is that 1904?).
I do not know if by that time the practise of consigning the corrispondence
directly on the hands of the Captain of the postal or commercial steamer was
still valid and if this postal convention ever applied to anything that wasn't
correspondence between Italy (Genova, Livorno, Civitavecchia, Napoli) and France
(Nice, Marseille).
Paolo
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Auctions
Knud-Erik I am glad I just resulted the winning bidder for
one of your auctions!
Nothing really special with the item, the departure CDS is superbly impressed
(and I don't have that one)!
Paolo
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Question on Usage NOIP
Prometheus
in that squared circle postmark: PORTO = Harbor (of Naples).
Probably the postage stamp had remained uncancelled and so they provided to
obliterate it in transit or at arrival.
Paolo
June 18, 2003 12:42 Bob in WA
Maarten -- Gee, maybe they could issue a stamp of a sonogram, for the
youngest person to ever appear on a stamp! (or has that been done already?)
June 18, 2003 Richard Matta
Not a "type I", more than a "small" tear (on the left side), and, by the
way, there is a big piece missing (at least he can't hide it).
June 18, 2003 Jim Griffith <griffith@dweeb.org>
http://album.dweeb.org
FDC 26 June - Santa Clara
nomad, I've been thinking about this issue a bit. I'm probably going to
miss the First Day stuff, although I'll be there that weekend, and I'll probably
try to get that issue if it's available. I collect both setenants and singles of
multiple issue releases like these, but the problem is that you never know which
one Scott will designate as "first". So I plan on buying a strip of 20. That
way, I'm guaranteed to be able to pull a properly-ordered strip of 10 out of it
somewhere and be left with 10 singles one way or the other.
It seems odd for the USPS to issue multiple designs for a rate other than
normal first class. They usually don't do that. I'm just worried about how long
the strip of 10 will be and whether I'm going to have to do some goofy angled
orientation on my album page to handle it. We'll see.
Jim
June 18, 2003 David Benson
Prometheus, arrival cancel at the at the Port of Naples Post Office.
David Benson
June 18, 2003 Maarten Willems
io Jim - Thanks for putting up the pics. That brought back good memories.
BTW: This evening there was an official announcement that our Princess Maxima is
pregnant and she together with her husband the Royal Price of the Netherlands
Willem-Alexander will expect their firstborn in mid-January. (This will
eventually turn out to be a philatelic posting, because the kid will someday
appear on a stamp for sure.)
June 18, 2003 1210 Prometheus
Question on Usage NOIP + Paolo
Was this Use of the GB stamp acceptible in Italy Because it was a PORTO Cancel
NapoliportoGB
is this fairly common or an Oddity for my Odd box???
Jim Watson Thanks just the wrong pile OK I have a bunch like that
June 18, 2003 12:05 Bob in WA
Today's date
Today’s date -- June 18 -- (Also posted on eBay chat) From 1997, just 6
years ago, HERE
is another of the covers I arranged for at Pacific 97. This one definitely
returned to Torshavn, where it was posted, 10 days after the show ended, to the
Seychelles. I received it back with others inside a larger envelope from
Seychelles, so I know it got there. Unfortunately no receiver was applied.
According to the people at the Faroes booth, it is the correct postage. A
contrived but legitimate bridge cover, and how many Faroes to Seychelles covers
have you ever seen before?
Bob in WA
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Goof of the day
Disclaimer: Maybe seller lives in another dimension and refers to Sassone
catalog Issue of 2222 A.D. (unit of measure of valuta is therrfore expanded in
betelgeuse's dollars).
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Goof of the day
Goof of the day. Seller evidently revised item, corrected denomination 20c.
instead of 5c., colour still wrong and, fortunately, "a picture tells a
thousands words".
Paolo
June 18, 2003 MiekieMuis
Iomoon, Jim, thanks for showing the picture! We should have actually
asked the (your) waiter to make one of the four of us...
Kind regards, Michelle (Paolo's daugther :-)
p.s. Sorry for multiple posting, I could not get the message in here before.
June 18, 2003 10:12 Jim Watson
David D.,
I believe the cover was prepared on a ship bound from a French port (I suggested
Marseilles), had French stamps applied, and was given to the purser. The purser
took the on board letters on arrival in Malta and delivered them to the Malta
Post Office (common practice for 'ship letters'). There they were treated as
prepaid similarly to what would become the UPU 'Paquebot' procedure. I think the
letter proceeded to England via an English vessel.
Prometheus,
Interesting postal card which got put in the wrong bundle.
June 18, 2003 09:45 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
CSA Facsimiles
Brian R...Thanks much for the info. I've added your comments to my album
since I seem to forget things more easily these days. ;-)
I also have another CSA item I've never understood
here. I purchased it many years ago from one of the higher priced
approval services that seemed to cater to the novice or youth collector
(Littleton maybe?) Anyway, the description that went with it was "Dietz 9A -
Ordered by the South from England during the Civil War, the plate for a John C.
Calhoun issue was lost in 1862 when the blockade runner carrying it sunk off the
Louisiana coast. This printing was made when the plate was discovered washed up
on shore during the 1920's."
My question, is this considered a real CSA stamp, a reprint, a facsimile, or
just what is it? Thanks again. Off to work but will check back later. Ken
June 18, 2003 9:32 ajmax37
Square Trade Rip Off
More info on lap top rip off.Notice E BAY required some sellers to participate
in rip off. "All eBay Travel sellers are encouraged to participate, and members
selling airline tickets, cruises, lodging, and vacation packages will be
required to participate in the program by June 3, 2002. SquareTrade will verify
sellers listing in these categories to ensure they have the necessary
qualifications to sell travel. eBay said the program reflects the highly
regulated nature of the travel industry at both the state and federal level."
June 18, 2003 nomad55
FDC 26 June - Santa Clara
Anyone wanting an uncacheted FDC of the 25-cent coil to be issued in Santa Clara
on June 26th, pay pal me 37 cents and 'e' me your address.
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
I'm on a roll.
Just added some more
Tahiti to my web site.
Very pretty stamps.
Looks like they had trouble registering the second color on the overprinted
stamps.
Notice the gap between face value and central image and top of mountain and top
of cameo.
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Paolo
Funny you should feature that seller.
I was looking at their "stamp albums" yesterday.
No indication of what was in them other than the general topic.
No idea as to who chose stamps and whether it was entirely comprehensive.
The ones I looked at, in spite of being diverse topics, all seemed to be 16
pages long. Remarkable coincidence!
Mentions album in PDF format.
Do you get a disk and have to print your own pages?
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
David D
Its outside my timeframe and I didn't read responses so just guessing.
Malta had incoming and outgoing for local and overseas mail(like London). So
mailed at Malta PO (on the dock?), received front cancels.
Transferred to overseas mail, received backcancel.
June 18, 2003 Paolo B.
Goof of the day
Goof of the day
Paolo
June 18, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
Jim Watson's Cover of June 15
Somebody help me on this. I can follow everything except why is there the Malta
backstamp. If the letter was mailed in Malta why wouldn't if have Maltese
postage. If it was posted directly to or on the French vessel (or other vessel
going to Marseilles, how did it pick up the Malta backstamp?
June 18, 2003 0545 Prometheus
today's postcard jun18-19-20
This postcard left Gladwyne Pa June 18 1907
Went to Ardmore Pa for some reason getting there Jun19 at 8am
at 8 PM it was in Troudsburg Pa and on Jun 20 Arrives where it was originally
sent in Tannersville PA
POSTCARD3CDS
June 18, 2003 David Detrich <ddetr@aol.com>
First post on this site but I have been lurking and reading as often as I could.
Started when the end of the line was the beginning of page 7 (don't want to know
where the end is now). Got stuck for a while on pages 3 and 4 and then slowly
progressed. Only took 2 tries to complete the task.
But that indicates just one way that this site that Dave has created is
superior to Ebay's chat. With my irregular visiting I would find that where I
had left off had scrolled off the board. Now it is still here - just may have to
back up a few more pages.
If we are still counting - chronlogical. On a threaded board my form of visiting
would require me to find out in each thread where I had left off. Doing it once
is enough time rather spend it reading.
Io I notice that your pub doesn't miss a trick in trying for your money
from morning coffee on.
June 18, 2003 04:54 Jim Watson
Good Morning, Everyone!
Today's dated postal history item is a card from
Germany flown
in 1912 by a 'Yellow Dog!'
June 18, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Gód dæg eall.
From a wet Scarsdale.
Colin
I think once you use a digital camera you will never return to the non-digital,
unless you are a professional photographer.
There is still need for improvement in the macro department such as the ability
to photograph stamps, but they are great for people and landscapes. Also a
little slow, so you need a steady hand.
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
David B. Thanks for your reply. I agree. What's worries me, apart from
the high start price, is that I think the seller is perfectly aware he's
selleing a rather badly executed
forgery (image of genuine from the great website http://www.antichistati.com,
of Lorgil -- used only for comparison purposes and because my scanner is not
working alright).
Main differences:
1. The 'fleur de lis' and the 'crown' are asymmetric (respectively right and
left portions too small),
2. the colour of the paper is wrong (in the orginal it is violet, coloured at
the pulp)
3. the wording with denomination below shows different font sizes. In
particular, the "C" of "CENTES" is not high enough.
I have two of those forgeries, for two different denominations, and I will add
that the paper is also too thick in the forgeries.
Paolo
June 18, 2003 David Benson
Paolo, at $49.99 for an $18,000 stamp he might find a buyer (sucker) who thought
it may be real. 49c. is a more realistic valuation.
David Benson
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
PARMA BIG RARITY
Bill C., David B. or anyone else:
What do you think of
this one?
Gotta run -- will catch up later.
Paolo
June 18, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Bob in WA :-) Greetings and thanks for the kind comments to you
and Bill C. from my daughter.
I
ed
you both! :-)
Mauro ho la testa dura anch'io :-)
Success with your sales!
Jim (IO) -- in any case -- 1180 or 1240 -- looks like they started early
to drink in company in a public house!
Paolo
June 18, 2003 00.20 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all.
K.E.
June 18, 2003 Brian R
springfields
Hello Ken
Welcome! I just happened to swing by the board before bed. I'll rehash for
you what I know about the Spingfields. The stamps are actually reproductions of
the origional hand drawings of August Dietz. Dietz is the same guy who wrote the
definative catalog of CSA, and whose books often pop up in that section of ebay.
Supposedly, Dietz "freaked out" when he heard that the Tatham Stamp Co. was
reproducing his drawings without permission. Ultimately, the lawyers got
involved. The origional facsimiles don't have any such markings on the back,
and, as Richard F pointed out, are on inferior paper. What ever the final
resolution was, it didn't stop further printings, but included the addition of
the facsimile wording. Obviously, your copies are the later type. Since then,
numerous people have reproduced the images in either block or full sheet format.
The misspelled "facsimilie" indicates that yours are origional to one of the
actual booklets.
Richard F, or others, please correct me if I got any of this wrong.
June 18, 2003 11.21 pm Colin Judd UK (xzephyr)
<thejudds@saltsvillage.freeserve.co.uk>
http://mysite.freeserve.com/xzephyr_Japan_stamps
Lot descriptions and refunds
Mauro
I always put in my description that I will accept returns for any reason
whatever, and I return the price and the postage so that a buyer is never out of
pocket. I think this gives buyers confidence and in 3 years I have only had one
lot returned.
I put in my description that items by regular mail lost in the post are at the
buyers risk, but on the one occasion this happened I refunded the money – a sort
of self insurance, and my charges of 50p UK/Europe and £1 Rest of the World
reflect a small contribution each time to that self insurance. I feel this again
gives buyers confidence in you. But if the same buyer reported two
different lots lost in the post I might start to get suspicious!
It is annoying when you get bad feedback from a newbie when it is not your
fault – my one returned lot was because he could not see a half perforation was
not there, but he had not asked about it or requested a more detailed scan and
he left a neutral that “the scan could have been better but he would buy again!”
(He won’t though, I blocked him!)
Iomoon
OK, so it’s New York not Texas. But aren’t all your stamps etc in Texas? Or
do you have 2 lots? Have a good vacation anyway! Your picture of my garden has
brought back to me that I really ought to get a digital camera, so I will ask my
kids to install it for me when I have had the courage to get one! Closing the
pub just for the battle? Sigh, those were the good old days when killing was
authorised during set hours! Nowadays we never know when it will happen.
Colin
June 17, 2003 22:46 Ken Michaelis (kmichael)
Springfields
Hi. I have one of the Tasco booklets of CSA facsimiles discussed earlier. On the
backs, about half are marked with a (misspelled) "Facsimilie", oriented either
horizontally or vertically. The other half are marked "Facsimile / No. xxx"
where 'xxx' is a number that corresponds to a number in the booklet.
Here is an example. Was there more than one printing of these, and is this a
way to tell them apart? Thanks. Ken
June 17, 2003 anne
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of wonderful photographs, requests for
reprints (probably more common in pre-xerox days) and beutiful views from
windows. Anne
June 17, 2003 Brian R
FREE shipping though, that's a plus.
June 17, 2003 Brian R
anyone interested?
Dang! I was all ready to line up a snipe, when I noticed,
that this item had a crease.
June 17, 2003 David Benson
Mauro, even though it may annoy you I still think that a refund of the postage
and packing costs is in order if the item is not up to the description. I don't
believe a refund is due if the buyer claims that the item was never recieved as
it can be easily abused, that is what insurance is for.
David Benson
June 17, 2003 7:49 PM Dan (ddaannv on ebay)
Mauro's bad experience
Mauro, My belief is that, if the stamp was sent within the USA (I am making the
wild assumption that you are in the USA) then it was delivered to the buyer. I
have sent literally thousands of items (ebay buyers, APS,
what-was-that-early-stamp-auction-company?, and others). Not one has gone
astray. Only two have been damaged in the mail - both by water. I also believe
that all or virtually all of the "lost in the mail" APS sales books are actually
stolen by one of the APS circuit members.
As for USA to foreign countries, probably only about 1/1,000 go permanently
astray. I do agree that, for mail outside the USA, adding nice commemorative
stamps can be a red flag that something even nicer might be found inside the
envelope.
What is the experience of others?
Dan
June 17, 2003 David Benson
Mauro, give my kind regards to Cesar, I know he has been having health problems
for a few years and hope that he recovers OK.
David Benson
June 17, 2003 Prometheus
Jim WS and Dave P = Thanks
Thanks for the info on that Parcel Stamp, as it's not issued by Postoffice Guess
that Steamer Trunk is Not the Largest Cover in the collection.
NOIP Route Question Was Ragoon thru Bombay Via Italy to Philly pa usa
normal route.
1890
June 17, 2003 Prometheus
Mauro-= Your Terms of service
Clear and concise to me.
June 17, 2003 17:03 Bill Claghorn (claghorn1p)
http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p/
Miekiemuis
Miekiemuis Thanks for taking the pictures of the bunch. We all appreciate
them very much.
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
bob
:-Þ
A few days they had to close early for battles.
This accounts for why British pubs used to close in the mid-afternoon and
re-open after the battle was over at around 5pm.
Actually, there appears to be some disparity.
The pub sign states 1180.
A web search gives 1240.
Whereas this states
" The original inn was built in the 1400s and it still has a medieval
underground chamber. The pub is famous for its association with smugglers who
used its underground passageways, which were linked to the nearby parsonage. The
Lamb Inn also hosted a ball for the Sussex Regiment before it set off for the
Battle of Waterloo. But when the soldiers arrived, the battle was already over -
so they returned to The Lamb for another ball to celebrate not firing a single
shot! "
June 17, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Jim W-S: Thanks, added your corrections to the terms. And you're right i know i
can not expect to satisfy every buyer desires and needs nor to recive positive
feedback on every transaction.... but i would like to.
Brian R: As an example, im charging U$ 3 for REGISTERED Air Mail with online
tracing to ANYWHERE in the world for an up to 20 grs. letter. (from Uruguay,
South America)
David B: To give you an idea of what happened, a 1st time customer bought a nice
GB stamp at eBay, and the stamp never arrived (per what he said)
About refunding shipping charges on returned items, what if a customer buys from
you at eBay a nice, good looking stamp and then suddenly when he recives it he
decides he doesn't want to keep it, you paid insertion fees, then final value
fees, PayPal fees, and a long etc. of other fees and expenses and you also have
to cover the Shipping expenses? Maybe i should credit shipping value in future
purchases and stick to my Bid Only refund policy, do you think this will be
satisfactory for the regular eBay Joe?
Sveiki!: I have noticed that courtesy is a scarce comodity nowadays but doesnt
means that im going to forget about it! ;-)
Paolo: I refuse to use Metered covers or ugly stamps, what can i do! im in love
with philately! (Grazie a me ed alla mia testa dura ... in a calabrese way)
Thanks to all of you.
Regards
Mauro
P.S. David B. Think our friend Cesar J. is having some health issues, will try
to call him and get some fresh news. Will keep you posted.
June 17, 2003 4:05 pm Bob in WA
pics
Io -- Many thanks for sharing the pics. I especially like the one of
Maarten with Paolo and his lovely daughter. Has that pub been in continuous
operation since the 12th century?
June 17, 2003 1545 Prometheus
Bob Wa = My Smith cards
Bob they have already found a home Back where they started at Rutgers University
As I now know nothing extra special in the markings and I have scanned to disk
for my reference use These and whatever others the dealer has when I return
tomorrow will be sent per the request of L.B.B. Professor & Chair
Department of Entomology
Rutgers University
To join in the History and Museum of Entomology there.
Another Nice Letter to put With the others in my Archives on things that got
donated back to where they should have been anyway,
My generosity is only limited by my meager wallet besides whats 30-40 dollars
compared to the Ability to Brag to the Goobersmoochers I know who always freak
out when I say hey if you get to the Museum be sure to check out some of the
Items I donated.
Besides a local clown I vie with all the time at auctions always brags about his
latest Big find and how much he made. I can't wait till friday when I get to say
You went to Dartmouth Right, I just donated some stuff to Rutgers.
June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Jim W-S
Great pictures! Thank you for sharing. I only saved the one with the trio, even
though I preferred Colin's garden and the Lamb Pub A.D. 1180 (!!!) on
Ocklynge road.
Paolo
June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Ciao Mauro!
Nice terms.
"- We will not be responsible for ANY lot lost in the mail when sent by Regular
Air Mail, and we will not refund any amount if you did not accept our
registry/insurance options."
"- Return of items: We will accept returned items only if not as described, the
returned amount will be your final eBay bid, shipping charges are NOT refundable
in any case and the refund will be issued only after the item is received in the
same condition AS SENT."
"- Strong packaging and interesting postage stamps will be used (no meters)."
Careful, because sometimes the mail gets stolen because of the nice looking
franking. I would suggest professional sellers to use definitive postage stamps
or meter stamps.
Just my half cent , of course.
Bill C. I examined the Gov. of Tuscany stamp and it is my opinion the
seller is dishonest.
Paolo
June 17, 2003 sveiki!
Mauro "What we Expect from YOU" would sound much more inviting like this:
"What we would appreciate". In my opinion you cannot expect anyone to leave
feedback - feedbacks are meant as a courtesy. Courtesy is hard to be expected.
{:o)
June 17, 2003 David Benson
Mauro, I would also refund the postage as well, may help future sales. Sounds
like an interesting story behind it, do you want to tell.
David Benson
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Mauro
Though it is always nice to receive it, positive feedback might not always be
forthcoming.
There may be buyers who dislike what they receive.
You need a comma or semi-colon after included.
Remove first "after" before 1 to 2 shipping days.
Otherwise, looks good.
June 17, 2003 Brian R
terms
MarioI see nothing in your terms that would stop me from bidding. Looks
clear. I do notice that your won't refund shipping if an item is not as
described. Nothing wrong with that if its detailed, and you are actually
charging real shipping costs. I'm thinking of a particular seller who charges
$4.95 domestic U.S. shipping, so as he'll make money, selling the same crappy
stamp over and over.
Come to think of it, there are several of those on ebay.
June 17, 2003 Paolo Bagaglia
Bob in WA I don't suppose you go to the Trasimeno lake shore with a stamp
album, unless you want to soak something :-)
Paolo
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Try again.
Colin's garden
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
OK maarten
Some images.
Paolo,
Michelle, and Maarten
Oldish
Pub
a href=http://users.overland.net/~jlwstark/colingarden2.jpg
target=_blank>Colin's garden
June 17, 2003 Mauro Mowszowicz
Ebay Terms
Hi, after a bad selling experience with a not so gentle buyer i decided to
change my eBay selling
terms, do you guys think they're correct enough? i will appreciate any
feedback about them.
Regards
Mauro
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Sorry Dave, I should have read a little further before replying.
June 17, 2003 Jim Whitford-Stark
http://www.iomoon.com
Prometheus
Your 5lb is a 5/- for the London, Midland and Scottish Railway.
Greenock was a ferry point, probably to the Isle of Arran.
June 17, 2003 Brian R
Richard B--On the bright side, they missed fifty cents worth of postage,
that you can now soak off, and reuse. :o)
Bill C.--ROTFLMAO (your "report" button)
June 17, 2003 Dave P
Parcel Stamp
Prometheus
Your stamp is a Five shilling Railway Stamp. Not sure of exact age but it is
"post-grouping", that is after all the little companies were swept up into a few
big ones, but pre-nationalisation so I would guess 1930's, but may be wrong as
not my field. Many companies issued stamps in the same general design, and as
they were stamped for each station the variety is almost endless. As a parcel it
came outside the GPO monopoly and would not have required an additional Royal
Mail stamp as railway letters did.
June 17, 2003 12.40 Knud-Erik (knuden)
http://sudeten.bizland.com/Homepage.htm
I need some help. :O)
The Dutch speaking friends on the board - Can any of you translate
this handwritten
text on the back of
this wrapper for me. It's a very interesting wrapper, which had an envelope
inside, which was against the regulation and was then charged as a letter and a
due marking was added and in Netherland a due stamp was added for the reciever
to pay. The handwritten text on front reads: "Contains a closed letter, Esbjerg
Post Office14/12-(18)90, signed the postmaster (name).
K.E.
June 17, 2003 12:05 Bob in WA
Bill -- Sorry, late start today. Much obliged, but I already have those,
an extra set, in fact. Some day I'll have to do an inventory, but a rough guess
is that I have close to 2000 bridge stamps, so ones I am missing are not as
plentiful. I have already many times experienced finding I had purchased ones I
already had. I could put together a large and quite good bridge collection from
duplicates.
Prometheus -- I would think the accumulation might be of interest to a
collector of entomology on stamps. It would help if Professor Smith had himself
been on a stamp! Academia takes a back seat to politics, entertainment, and
sports when we define "famous", alas. But every area has its "fans" |